ZionrulZ Posted January 4, 2013 Share Posted January 4, 2013 Just wondering...has anyone checked to see if Hahn is alive??? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Princess Dye Posted January 4, 2013 Share Posted January 4, 2013 We're waiting while others set the market It's a way to get deals, and in the MLB you have to make savvy deals (even if you are a big spender) It's not cheapness, it's what puts you over the top. To manage your resources the best way possible. We can look at the teams that made huge fast moves and played 0 postseason games. It's time to be smart Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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flavum Posted January 4, 2013 Share Posted January 4, 2013 The Sox obviously haven't been able to do everything they want to do, but it's a weird market out there this year. This may be a year where trades happen during spring training more than usual. The Sox will be in Milwaukee 12 weeks from today for exhibition games. I'll try not to judge the roster until then. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
3E8 Posted January 4, 2013 Share Posted January 4, 2013 Hahn and KW are probably polar opposites when it comes to patience. KW could never wait to get his chips in the pot. We're used to having more offseason activity by now. Hahn is more conservative and can hold out in attempt to get what he wants. Hahn's best skill as assistant GM has been in contract negotiations, so that should translate well when he makes his first trade. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
witesoxfan Posted January 4, 2013 Share Posted January 4, 2013 QUOTE (3E8 @ Jan 4, 2013 -> 10:04 AM) Hahn and KW are probably polar opposites when it comes to patience. KW could never wait to get his chips in the pot. We're used to having more offseason activity by now. Hahn is more conservative and can hold out in attempt to get what he wants. Hahn's best skill as assistant GM has been in contract negotiations, so that should translate well when he makes his first trade. Blake Tekotte hates you. In fact, he hates all of you. He's going to be my superman. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
southsider2k5 Posted January 4, 2013 Share Posted January 4, 2013 QUOTE (witesoxfan @ Jan 4, 2013 -> 10:05 AM) Blake Tekotte hates you. In fact, he hates all of you. He's going to be my superman. Not as much as Kenny Williams Jr hates you. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Dick Allen Posted January 4, 2013 Share Posted January 4, 2013 How many blockbusters did KW pull off by this time last year? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
3E8 Posted January 4, 2013 Share Posted January 4, 2013 QUOTE (Dick Allen @ Jan 4, 2013 -> 11:07 AM) How many blockbusters did KW pull off by this time last year? None. But Sergio, Quentin, and Frasor had each been traded. And he picked up what would become nearly three wins in superstar rookies Quintana and Veal. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ptatc Posted January 4, 2013 Share Posted January 4, 2013 QUOTE (3E8 @ Jan 4, 2013 -> 10:04 AM) Hahn and KW are probably polar opposites when it comes to patience. KW could never wait to get his chips in the pot. We're used to having more offseason activity by now. Hahn is more conservative and can hold out in attempt to get what he wants. Hahn's best skill as assistant GM has been in contract negotiations, so that should translate well when he makes his first trade. Not if you remember Ron Schueler. This would have been a blistering off season for him. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
CyAcosta41 Posted January 4, 2013 Share Posted January 4, 2013 QUOTE (3E8 @ Jan 4, 2013 -> 10:04 AM) Hahn and KW are probably polar opposites when it comes to patience. KW could never wait to get his chips in the pot. We're used to having more offseason activity by now. Hahn is more conservative and can hold out in attempt to get what he wants. Hahn's best skill as assistant GM has been in contract negotiations, so that should translate well when he makes his first trade. Bingo! I've always been a huge KW fan. Long suffering Sox fan that I've been (remember a Sox-Yankee game as a 5 year old in 1963), I loved that in KW we had a GM who aggressively went balls-out, pedal-to-the-metal, and clearly wanted "it" as badly as the most devout fan. Where he got himself into a bit of trouble is that he seemed to have become a relative easy "read" for other GMs. Like a bad QB, he stared down his intended target, or telegraphed his punches (pick your sports metaphor), and the other GMs took advantage of him by often extracting sometimes incredible overpays. Loved the passion, sometimes hated the execution. Enter Hahn. I wanted KW to have more of a poker face, to have some cunning and guile, to exercise patience. Transparency and all those leaks leading to deals (with overpayments) didn't get us very far in most cases. It's far too early (not to mention unfair) to jump to any sort of conclusion about Rick Hahn. Let's see what the man does. Let him have a track record. Let's watch with greater perspective so we can fairly label his style. In my opinion, criticizing the man for not having a "pulse" is absurd. KW didn't have a pulse, he bled publicly. The time was right for a change, but it's far too early to tell what we have in Rick Hahn. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
southsider2k5 Posted January 4, 2013 Share Posted January 4, 2013 QUOTE (Dick Allen @ Jan 4, 2013 -> 10:07 AM) How many blockbusters did KW pull off by this time last year? He had completed the biggest trade of them all. Ozzie Guillen to the Marlins for chum. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ZionrulZ Posted January 4, 2013 Author Share Posted January 4, 2013 We're waiting while others set the market It's a way to get deals, and in the MLB you have to make savvy deals (even if you are a big spender) It's not cheapness, it's what puts you over the top. To manage your resources the best way possible. We can look at the teams that made huge fast moves and played 0 postseason games. It's time to be smart I don't disagree with you at all. It would be nice to hear something...a rumor, a hint of a rumor, anything. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
southsider2k5 Posted January 4, 2013 Share Posted January 4, 2013 QUOTE (CyAcosta41 @ Jan 4, 2013 -> 10:29 AM) Bingo! I've always been a huge KW fan. Long suffering Sox fan that I've been (remember a Sox-Yankee game as a 5 year old in 1963), I loved that in KW we had a GM who aggressively went balls-out, pedal-to-the-metal, and clearly wanted "it" as badly as the most devout fan. Where he got himself into a bit of trouble is that he seemed to have become a relative easy "read" for other GMs. Like a bad QB, he stared down his intended target, or telegraphed his punches (pick your sports metaphor), and the other GMs took advantage of him by often extracting sometimes incredible overpays. Loved the passion, sometimes hated the execution. Enter Hahn. I wanted KW to have more of a poker face, to have some cunning and guile, to exercise patience. Transparency and all those leaks leading to deals (with overpayments) didn't get us very far in most cases. It's far too early (not to mention unfair) to jump to any sort of conclusion about Rick Hahn. Let's see what the man does. Let him have a track record. Let's watch with greater perspective so we can fairly label his style. In my opinion, criticizing the man for not having a "pulse" is absurd. KW didn't have a pulse, he bled publicly. The time was right for a change, but it's far too early to tell what we have in Rick Hahn. I get the feeling the leaks weren't coming from Williams. They were coming from his manager. Tell me I am not the only one who noticed how much quieter things got after #teamguillen left Chicago. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
witesoxfan Posted January 4, 2013 Share Posted January 4, 2013 QUOTE (Lamar Johnson 23 @ Jan 4, 2013 -> 10:35 AM) I don't disagree with you at all. It would be nice to hear something...a rumor, a hint of a rumor, anything. The Sox want to trade their bad players for good players. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
3E8 Posted January 4, 2013 Share Posted January 4, 2013 QUOTE (witesoxfan @ Jan 4, 2013 -> 11:42 AM) The Sox want to trade their bad players for good players. Source? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
witesoxfan Posted January 4, 2013 Share Posted January 4, 2013 QUOTE (3E8 @ Jan 4, 2013 -> 10:44 AM) Source? Uhh, uhh Chicago Tribune Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ZionrulZ Posted January 4, 2013 Author Share Posted January 4, 2013 The Sox want to trade their bad players for good players. Only if it works out financially! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
southsider2k5 Posted January 4, 2013 Share Posted January 4, 2013 http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Flogging_a_dead_horse Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
The Ultimate Champion Posted January 4, 2013 Share Posted January 4, 2013 (edited) Honestly guys, Rick filled out ALL of the trade paperwork but then his dog ate it. Mama Hahn: "Ricky?! Ricky what are you burning up there?!" Ricky: "Nothin' Ma!" Daddy Hahn: "You listen to your god damn mother! And god damn it Ricky you turn that music down or I'm comin' up there myself!" Edited January 4, 2013 by The Ultimate Champion Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ZionrulZ Posted January 4, 2013 Author Share Posted January 4, 2013 http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Flogging_a_dead_horse Your opinion please...let's say that (for whatever reason) the Angels offered Albert Pujols to the Sox for Paul Konerko, straight up, no financial incentives. Do you think Reinsdorf would okay the deal? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
bigruss Posted January 4, 2013 Share Posted January 4, 2013 QUOTE (Lamar Johnson 23 @ Jan 4, 2013 -> 11:35 AM) Your opinion please...let's say that (for whatever reason) the Angels offered Albert Pujols to the Sox for Paul Konerko, straight up, no financial incentives. Do you think Reinsdorf would okay the deal? No, because Pujols has a ridiculous contract that only 1 team was willing to offer. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
southsider2k5 Posted January 4, 2013 Share Posted January 4, 2013 QUOTE (Lamar Johnson 23 @ Jan 4, 2013 -> 11:35 AM) Your opinion please...let's say that (for whatever reason) the Angels offered Albert Pujols to the Sox for Paul Konerko, straight up, no financial incentives. Do you think Reinsdorf would okay the deal? I hope not. With every year that goes by, that Pujols deal gets worse and worse. Give it 3-4 more years that deal will be one of the worst in baseball. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ZionrulZ Posted January 4, 2013 Author Share Posted January 4, 2013 No, because Pujols has a ridiculous contract that only 1 team was willing to offer. Even though he is arguably the best baseball player alive and would GREATLY improve the Sox' chances of winning? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
witesoxfan Posted January 4, 2013 Share Posted January 4, 2013 QUOTE (The Ultimate Champion @ Jan 4, 2013 -> 11:34 AM) Honestly guys, Rick filled out ALL of the trade paperwork but then his dog ate it. Mama Hahn: "Ricky?! Ricky what are you burning up there?!" Ricky: "Nothin' Ma!" Daddy Hahn: "You listen to your god damn mother! And god damn it Ricky you turn that music down or I'm comin' up there myself!" Oh wow, a video game and marijuana reference in the same post, that's amazing. Because I bet that's what someone who has a degrees from the University of Michigan, Northwestern (MBA), and HARVARD LAW SCHOOL do. Keep on trolling though Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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