The Ginger Kid Posted April 28, 2013 Share Posted April 28, 2013 This season's going in the toilet faster than Mexican tap water thru my ass. I blame you Herm! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
LittleHurt05 Posted April 29, 2013 Share Posted April 29, 2013 Maybe this will stop the b****ing about Gavin Floyd Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
The Ginger Kid Posted May 2, 2013 Share Posted May 2, 2013 Starting to sound like the injury could be worse than originally thought...he could be transferred to the 60-day DL Sale's second consecutive victory boosts Sox hopes in the wake of Floyd's right elbow strain. According to a source, Floyd is seeking multiple opinions. The biggest fear is that further diagnosis could reveal an ulnar collateral ligament tear that may require lengthy rest, or surgery that would end his year and his association with the Sox after seven seasons.... Floyd could be transferred from the 15-day DL to the 60-day list to open a spot on the 40-man roster. That could allow the Sox to pursue a left-handed reliever or promote one of their minor league relievers currently not on the 40-man. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
chisoxfan09 Posted May 2, 2013 Share Posted May 2, 2013 Starting to sound like the injury could be worse than originally thought...he could be transferred to the 60-day DL This sounds ominous now. Santiago may be given a shot now at the 5 slot. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Andrew Posted May 2, 2013 Share Posted May 2, 2013 This sounds ominous now. Santiago may be given a shot now at the 5 slot. - Floyd Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Chicago White Sox Posted May 2, 2013 Share Posted May 2, 2013 Honestly, I think our rotation will be stronger with Santiago instead of Floyd. The only thing that sucks IMO is that we now have $10M of dead payroll that will be difficult to move. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
southsider2k5 Posted May 2, 2013 Share Posted May 2, 2013 That really sucks. That is some very good depth we are losing, and putting into the hands of basically a rookie starter at the major league level. Hopefully he is half as good as some have turned him into. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ptatc Posted May 2, 2013 Share Posted May 2, 2013 QUOTE (Chicago White Sox @ May 2, 2013 -> 06:44 AM) Honestly, I think our rotation will be stronger with Santiago instead of Floyd. The only thing that sucks IMO is that we now have $10M of dead payroll that will be difficult to move. If he is on the DL for any length of time, insurance will cover most of the money. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Chicago White Sox Posted May 2, 2013 Share Posted May 2, 2013 QUOTE (ptatc @ May 2, 2013 -> 08:42 AM) If he is on the DL for any length of time, insurance will cover most of the money. Good point, but how quickly can we collect it? I'm guessing we won't see that money until the season is over. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ptatc Posted May 2, 2013 Share Posted May 2, 2013 QUOTE (Chicago White Sox @ May 2, 2013 -> 09:12 AM) Good point, but how quickly can we collect it? I'm guessing we won't see that money until the season is over. If he is on the DL he gets worker's compensation pay which usually comes from the insurance company. It varies by insurance company on how quickly the reimburse. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
LittleHurt05 Posted May 2, 2013 Share Posted May 2, 2013 QUOTE (ptatc @ May 2, 2013 -> 08:42 AM) If he is on the DL for any length of time, insurance will cover most of the money. You never hear about insurance covering players' salary. If teams do recoup some of that salary, they sure as hell don't let their fanbase know as much, they prefer to play the "Woe is us" card. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Balta1701 Posted May 2, 2013 Author Share Posted May 2, 2013 QUOTE (LittleHurt05 @ May 2, 2013 -> 10:25 AM) You never hear about insurance covering players' salary. If teams do recoup some of that salary, they sure as hell don't let their fanbase know as much, they prefer to play the "Woe is us" card. You heard about it a lot with Peavy's last deal. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
caulfield12 Posted May 2, 2013 Share Posted May 2, 2013 It's around 35-40% that the insurance company is paying...FWIW. Typically. Some of the huge contracts out there, especially for pitchers (see Verlander/Greinke), it's probably a slightly different figure. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
LittleHurt05 Posted May 2, 2013 Share Posted May 2, 2013 QUOTE (Balta1701 @ May 2, 2013 -> 09:31 AM) You heard about it a lot with Peavy's last deal. That's honestly the first time I had ever heard about it. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
southsider2k5 Posted May 2, 2013 Share Posted May 2, 2013 Dan Hayes @DanHayesCSN 18m Rick Hahn confirms Gavin Floyd is getting multiple opinions on right elbow/forearm injury. #WhiteSox hope to have treatment plan next week. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
witesoxfan Posted May 2, 2013 Share Posted May 2, 2013 This one hurts because I really felt the Sox should have dealt Floyd this offseason. I've always been a big fan of Floyd's talent, but I feel they could have added a little more to the team with his $9.5 freed up and any prospect they would have brought in would have been worth it. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Reddy Posted May 2, 2013 Share Posted May 2, 2013 QUOTE (Chicago White Sox @ May 2, 2013 -> 05:44 AM) Honestly, I think our rotation will be stronger with Santiago instead of Floyd. The only thing that sucks IMO is that we now have $10M of dead payroll that will be difficult to move. crazytown. floyd is a good pitcher. i don't know why our fanbase hates him so much. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
fathom Posted May 2, 2013 Share Posted May 2, 2013 QUOTE (witesoxfan @ May 2, 2013 -> 04:42 PM) This one hurts because I really felt the Sox should have dealt Floyd this offseason. I've always been a big fan of Floyd's talent, but I feel they could have added a little more to the team with his $9.5 freed up and any prospect they would have brought in would have been worth it. If he does have to get TJ surgery, it makes you wonder how this injury is different than the one he had last year. With that said, it would suck to lose a possible trade chip but at least his contract is up after this season. I'm sure Theo will just sign him in the offseason now to a 1-year deal. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
fathom Posted May 2, 2013 Share Posted May 2, 2013 QUOTE (LittleHurt05 @ May 2, 2013 -> 03:40 PM) That's honestly the first time I had ever heard about it. I was always under the impression that insurance only kicked in if the player missed the whole season. However, over the last year or so, it seems like that isn't accurate. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Dick Allen Posted May 2, 2013 Share Posted May 2, 2013 QUOTE (fathom @ May 2, 2013 -> 10:49 AM) I was always under the impression that insurance only kicked in if the player missed the whole season. However, over the last year or so, it seems like that isn't accurate. I still think insurance is the secret reason DRose isn't playing. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
LittleHurt05 Posted May 2, 2013 Share Posted May 2, 2013 QUOTE (Reddy @ May 2, 2013 -> 10:43 AM) crazytown. floyd is a good pitcher. i don't know why our fanbase hates him so much. People seem to think that 30-start, 4.00-4.25 ERA (in the AL) starters grow on trees or something. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
fathom Posted May 2, 2013 Share Posted May 2, 2013 QUOTE (LittleHurt05 @ May 2, 2013 -> 04:52 PM) People seem to think that 30-start, 4.00-4.25 ERA (in the AL) starters grow on trees or something. You pretty much know by now what you'll get from Floyd over the course of the season. If the Sox aren't going to be in contention, I have no problem seeing what Santiago can give you as a starter for a full year. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
LittleHurt05 Posted May 2, 2013 Share Posted May 2, 2013 QUOTE (fathom @ May 2, 2013 -> 10:54 AM) You pretty much know by now what you'll get from Floyd over the course of the season. If the Sox aren't going to be in contention, I have no problem seeing what Santiago can give you as a starter for a full year. If you are out of contention, I absolutely agree. But for a contending team, there is nothing wrong with having Gavin towards the middle or back of your rotation. Over the past 5 seasons, he averaged 190 IP, with around a 4.12 ERA. I'd love to see how many starters in the AL could say that over the same time frame, I'm sure it's not a lot. Yet Sox fans seem to think he is Danny Wright. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
fathom Posted May 2, 2013 Share Posted May 2, 2013 QUOTE (LittleHurt05 @ May 2, 2013 -> 04:59 PM) If you are out of contention, I absolutely agree. But for a contending team, there is nothing wrong with having Gavin towards the middle or back of your rotation. Over the past 5 seasons, he averaged 190 IP, with around a 4.12 ERA. I'd love to see how many starters in the AL could say that over the same time frame, I'm sure it's not a lot. Yet Sox fans seem to think he is Danny Wright. If I thought the Sox could contend this year and/or Gavin would have a lot of trade value at the deadline, I think I'd be a lot more upset with the news. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Chicago White Sox Posted May 2, 2013 Share Posted May 2, 2013 QUOTE (Reddy @ May 2, 2013 -> 10:43 AM) crazytown. floyd is a good pitcher. i don't know why our fanbase hates him so much. I don't hate Floyd and have argued offseason after offseason that he is a great #4 starter on a championship team. I just think Santiago will be equally good and possibly better. Plus Floyd wasn't coming back next year, so getting a look at Santiago now could help us next year and further down the road. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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