royoung Posted March 21, 2014 Share Posted March 21, 2014 QUOTE (IowaSoxFan @ Mar 21, 2014 -> 09:28 AM) Law has his first prospect rankings (top 50) for the draft up: 1 Brady Aiken 2 Kolek 3 Rodon 4 Beede 5 Grant Holmes - Plus fastball that he can run up to 98 with great feel and control. 6 Hoffman 7 Jackson Others of notw 15 Newcomb 19 Gatewood 20 Turner 39 Toussaint Do you have a link? Interesting how far Hoffman has fallen in his list, especially considering how high he was on him. I don't know much about Grant Holmes..HS arm? Looks like we have our choice of arms, fantastic news because I think that would be great value selecting that high. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
harfman77 Posted March 21, 2014 Share Posted March 21, 2014 QUOTE (southside hitman @ Mar 21, 2014 -> 10:08 AM) Do you have a link? Interesting how far Hoffman has fallen in his list, especially considering how high he was on him. I don't know much about Grant Holmes..HS arm? Looks like we have our choice of arms, fantastic news because I think that would be great value selecting that high. It is an insider article. http://insider.espn.go.com/mlb/story/_/id/...-2014-mlb-draft Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
royoung Posted March 21, 2014 Share Posted March 21, 2014 QUOTE (IowaSoxFan @ Mar 21, 2014 -> 11:10 AM) It is an insider article. http://insider.espn.go.com/mlb/story/_/id/...-2014-mlb-draft Thanks! I happen to be *puts on sunglasses dramatically* an insider. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Eminor3rd Posted March 21, 2014 Share Posted March 21, 2014 QUOTE (IowaSoxFan @ Mar 21, 2014 -> 11:10 AM) It is an insider article. http://insider.espn.go.com/mlb/story/_/id/...-2014-mlb-draft He's got Turner all the way down at 20 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ILMOU Posted March 21, 2014 Share Posted March 21, 2014 Hoffman at #6. Guess I'm not the only nut who thinks performance matters, even if just a little. Here's hoping he kills it for the rest of the season. I have a hard time believing HS pitchers will go 1 and 2, but you never know. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
royoung Posted March 21, 2014 Share Posted March 21, 2014 QUOTE (Eminor3rd @ Mar 21, 2014 -> 11:17 AM) He's got Turner all the way down at 20 I tend to agree. He's got three extra base hits this year. What's his upside? Juan Pierre? Odds are he won't hit enough to make much of an impact with his speed. Give me a guy with a shot to be a front line starter. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BlackSox13 Posted March 21, 2014 Share Posted March 21, 2014 QUOTE (IowaSoxFan @ Mar 21, 2014 -> 09:28 AM) Law has his first prospect rankings (top 50) for the draft up: 1 Brady Aiken 2 Kolek 3 Rodon 4 Beede 5 Grant Holmes - Plus fastball that he can run up to 98 with great feel and control. 6 Hoffman 7 Jackson Others of notw 15 Newcomb 19 Gatewood 20 Turner 39 Toussaint Thanks for posting this. According to Law, the Sox potentially have a choice between Rodon or Beede. That's a difficult decision that I would gladly welcome. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Feeky Magee Posted March 21, 2014 Share Posted March 21, 2014 From the game thread: QUOTE (Feeky Magee @ Mar 21, 2014 -> 04:23 PM) Rick Hahn in the booth talking about the draft. Calls Rodon "certainly the best college arm", talks about the possibility of going for a lower-bonus guy at 3 and spreading money throughout the later picks. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
harfman77 Posted March 21, 2014 Share Posted March 21, 2014 QUOTE (Feeky Magee @ Mar 21, 2014 -> 04:26 PM) From the game thread: Ha...We will see. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
fathom Posted March 21, 2014 Share Posted March 21, 2014 I can't see Hahn passing on a possible #1 just to have more money for later rounds Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
harfman77 Posted March 21, 2014 Share Posted March 21, 2014 QUOTE (fathom @ Mar 21, 2014 -> 05:01 PM) I can't see Hahn passing on a possible #1 just to have more money for later rounds I think it is gamesmanship. There are 4 pitchers that could be in play for the Sox there, and RH could be setting them up to say he will take the one that will sign on his terms. If it comes to Aiken, Rodon, Hoffman, Kolek, Beede, Newcomb, and Holmes, it is tough to say you are making the wrong call by selecting any of them. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Feeky Magee Posted March 21, 2014 Share Posted March 21, 2014 Besides the bonus stuff I thought his comment on Rodon was interesting, given a) Beede's start to the year and b) the strong possibility that Rodon will be gone by 3 and other college arms being in play for the Sox at that point. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
southsider2k5 Posted March 21, 2014 Share Posted March 21, 2014 QUOTE (IowaSoxFan @ Mar 21, 2014 -> 05:08 PM) I think it is gamesmanship. There are 4 pitchers that could be in play for the Sox there, and RH could be setting them up to say he will take the one that will sign on his terms. If it comes to Aiken, Rodon, Hoffman, Kolek, Beede, Newcomb, and Holmes, it is tough to say you are making the wrong call by selecting any of them. If you have the guys you have a choice of all graded right about the same, why wouldn't you pick the guy you could sign cheapest if it meant getting more talent later in the draft. Houston did it well. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
fathom Posted March 22, 2014 Share Posted March 22, 2014 Even though the runs were unearned, Rodon got roughed up by Maryland tonight. 4.2 IP, 6 hits, 8 runs, 0 ER, 4 walks, 8 K Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
fathom Posted March 22, 2014 Share Posted March 22, 2014 Beede was probably worse than Rodon. Beede's line was 2.2 IP, 6 hits, 10 runs, 4 ER, 5 BB, 2 K Brady Aiken on his way to being everyone's #1 prospect Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
fathom Posted March 22, 2014 Share Posted March 22, 2014 (edited) Hoffman with only 2 strikeouts against a terrible Charlotte team East Carolina ip h r er bb so Hoffman, Jeff 7.0 6 3 3 2 2 Edited March 22, 2014 by fathom Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ShandyMan Posted March 22, 2014 Share Posted March 22, 2014 I'd love for Rodon to fall to us. He is still a great pitcher despite the results this year. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
fathom Posted March 22, 2014 Share Posted March 22, 2014 Finnegan with a dominating start to defeat a ranked Tx Tech team. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Feeky Magee Posted March 22, 2014 Share Posted March 22, 2014 Yeesh, rough night for the top-rated college arms Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Quin Posted March 22, 2014 Share Posted March 22, 2014 Give me Rodon gladly. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ILMOU Posted March 22, 2014 Share Posted March 22, 2014 The college pitchers are screwing this up. I have to believe the braintrust would like to take a college arm, other things being relatively equal. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ptatc Posted March 23, 2014 Share Posted March 23, 2014 QUOTE (Stan Bahnsen @ Mar 22, 2014 -> 07:56 AM) The college pitchers are screwing this up. I have to believe the braintrust would like to take a college arm, other things being relatively equal. It plays right into the RH's hand. They get a top talent with lower bonus money and spread it around to later draft picks. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
caulfield12 Posted March 23, 2014 Author Share Posted March 23, 2014 (edited) I would think the Astros with Nolan Ryan in charge would definitely be tempted to take local product Kolek, since they just drafted a polished university hurler in Appel last year. Is there a "will sign for cheaper" guy the Marlins might be targeting at #1? Like what the Astros worked out with Correa before the draft? http://www.baseballamerica.com/college/fri...r-aces-stumble/ TCU LHP Brandon Finnegan moving up into the Top 10 Edited March 23, 2014 by caulfield12 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ILMOU Posted March 23, 2014 Share Posted March 23, 2014 A list of college arms possibly available for our 2nd round pick. This is from a Cubs site, but certainly could apply to us as well since the picks are 44th and 45th overall respectively: http://www.chicagonow.com/cubs-den/2014/03...-the-2nd-round/ Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Springfield Soxfan Posted March 23, 2014 Share Posted March 23, 2014 For what its worth, yesterday during the Sox/Giants broadcast, Hawks was very critical of taking a high school pitcher in the first round of a draft. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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