Eminor3rd Posted July 16, 2013 Share Posted July 16, 2013 QUOTE (fathom @ Jul 16, 2013 -> 02:54 PM) I can't imagine them doing that. It sounds like Cubs are trying to get Neftali Feliz instead (Tom Loxas reporting). If they get Feliz and Olt for Garza, that's an amazing trade for the Cubs. Since when is Garza this great pitcher?? No way they get both of those guys -- but while Garza is not a great pitcher, he's the best guy available right now by a fair amount. Supply & demand. This is why we need Peavy to 2-hit the #Barves this weekend. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jake Posted July 16, 2013 Share Posted July 16, 2013 If I'm buying, I'd much rather have Peavy than Garza. Both for this season and when you factor in the contracts. Two different tiers of pitcher IMO. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
GGajewski18 Posted July 16, 2013 Share Posted July 16, 2013 QUOTE (Jake @ Jul 16, 2013 -> 03:06 PM) If I'm buying, I'd much rather have Peavy than Garza. Both for this season and when you factor in the contracts. Two different tiers of pitcher IMO. I agree with you. Peavy is a more reliable pitcher who is cost friendly and controlled through next year. And are the Cubs really asking for Feliz? That's crazy. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Knackattack Posted July 16, 2013 Share Posted July 16, 2013 QUOTE (SoxPride18 @ Jul 16, 2013 -> 12:10 PM) I agree with you. Peavy is a more reliable pitcher who is cost friendly and controlled through next year. And are the Cubs really asking for Feliz? That's crazy. Hope to god they get him and Peavy has 3 dominant starts. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Eminor3rd Posted July 16, 2013 Share Posted July 16, 2013 QUOTE (Jake @ Jul 16, 2013 -> 03:06 PM) If I'm buying, I'd much rather have Peavy than Garza. Both for this season and when you factor in the contracts. Two different tiers of pitcher IMO. I agree and I would be willing to bet that most teams do as well. I just don't think anyone considers Peavy a real option until he returns healthy, Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
GGajewski18 Posted July 16, 2013 Share Posted July 16, 2013 Is there really any timetable of a possible trade for Rios and Lindstrom? I.understand that Crain and Peavy need to be healthy but I'm getting impatient and want this minor rebuild to happen already. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
witesoxfan Posted July 16, 2013 Share Posted July 16, 2013 QUOTE (SoxPride18 @ Jul 16, 2013 -> 04:08 PM) Is there really any timetable of a possible trade for Rios and Lindstrom? I.understand that Crain and Peavy need to be healthy but I'm getting impatient and want this minor rebuild to happen already. If they're traded this year, it's probably going to happen some time in the next 15 days. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
iamshack Posted July 16, 2013 Share Posted July 16, 2013 QUOTE (witesoxfan @ Jul 16, 2013 -> 02:37 PM) If they're traded this year, it's probably going to happen some time in the next 15 days. but not necessarily (I just wanted to be a dork) Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
witesoxfan Posted July 16, 2013 Share Posted July 16, 2013 QUOTE (iamshack @ Jul 16, 2013 -> 04:38 PM) but not necessarily (I just wanted to be a dork) Haha, someone caught on Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Y2Jimmy0 Posted July 17, 2013 Share Posted July 17, 2013 This information about Rios was in Jim Bowden's article today.... The Chicago White Sox have been shopping almost all of their players, but so far they have been extremely disappointed in the offers they've fielded for right fielder Alex Rios. However, with very few bats available they should still do fine, as teams always get a bit more desperate right before the deadline. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
cabiness42 Posted July 17, 2013 Share Posted July 17, 2013 This information about Rios was in Jim Bowden's article today.... The Chicago White Sox have been shopping almost all of their players, but so far they have been extremely disappointed in the offers they've fielded for right fielder Alex Rios. However, with very few bats available they should still do fine, as teams always get a bit more desperate right before the deadline. Rios has a reasonable 2015 option, and with the pitching the Sox have it's not out of the question that he could be a significant contributor on a contending team in 2015, so I'm in ho hurry to dump him just to dump him. If Hahn doesn't get a premium haul for him by the end of July, then hang on to him and maybe a better deal is there in December and if not I'm not going to complain if he's still with the Sox in April. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
GGajewski18 Posted July 17, 2013 Share Posted July 17, 2013 QUOTE (Y2JImmy0 @ Jul 17, 2013 -> 10:52 AM) This information about Rios was in Jim Bowden's article today.... The Chicago White Sox have been shopping almost all of their players, but so far they have been extremely disappointed in the offers they've fielded for right fielder Alex Rios. However, with very few bats available they should still do fine, as teams always get a bit more desperate right before the deadline. That is a little disappointing. Did he mention anything about Peavy or the.bullpen guys? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
beautox Posted July 17, 2013 Share Posted July 17, 2013 QUOTE (HickoryHuskers @ Jul 17, 2013 -> 11:14 AM) Rios has a reasonable 2015 option, and with the pitching the Sox have it's not out of the question that he could be a significant contributor on a contending team in 2015, so I'm in ho hurry to dump him just to dump him. If Hahn doesn't get a premium haul for him by the end of July, then hang on to him and maybe a better deal is there in December and if not I'm not going to complain if he's still with the Sox in April. I agree if we can't get premium talent for him don't dump him to dump him, there is plenty of money coming off the books and Thompson is still a half a year away it appears. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Steve9347 Posted July 17, 2013 Share Posted July 17, 2013 QUOTE (witesoxfan @ Jul 15, 2013 -> 04:32 PM) He's been struggling and pressing like crazy. This is his worst season as a professional by far. There's no reason he shouldn't at least be adequate against righties, but he seemingly swings at everything. He's f***ing terrible. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
greg775 Posted July 18, 2013 Share Posted July 18, 2013 QUOTE (Steve9347 @ Jul 17, 2013 -> 08:04 PM) He's f***ing terrible. Who are we talking about here? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
witesoxfan Posted July 18, 2013 Share Posted July 18, 2013 QUOTE (greg775 @ Jul 18, 2013 -> 02:29 PM) Who are we talking about here? Viciedo Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
greg775 Posted July 18, 2013 Share Posted July 18, 2013 QUOTE (witesoxfan @ Jul 18, 2013 -> 08:52 PM) Viciedo Oh, thanks. Maybe the all-star break will help him. He definitely needs to get his act together. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
elrockinMT Posted July 18, 2013 Share Posted July 18, 2013 QUOTE (greg775 @ Jul 18, 2013 -> 07:54 PM) Oh, thanks. Maybe the all-star break will help him. He definitely needs to get his act together. Maybe the break helps a lot of Sox players Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
hi8is Posted July 18, 2013 Share Posted July 18, 2013 QUOTE (witesoxfan @ Jul 18, 2013 -> 12:52 PM) Viciedo Sophomore slump to a "T"... He might figure it out and make adjustments in the second half but the real teat for him is this offseason and next year. Hope he puts it together at the plate... He still has a chance to be a beast! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
kwolf68 Posted July 18, 2013 Share Posted July 18, 2013 I'm ready for a bunch of deals just to get some new blood in here...I'm reading Bears notes in freaking July and that's not right. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
hi8is Posted July 18, 2013 Share Posted July 18, 2013 QUOTE (kwolf68 @ Jul 18, 2013 -> 03:38 PM) I'm ready for a bunch of deals just to get some new blood in here...I'm reading Bears notes in freaking July and that's not right. I hear ya - time goes by slowly when refreshing trade winds and mlbtraderumors two weeks before deadline day. Snoooooooze... Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
GreenSox Posted July 18, 2013 Share Posted July 18, 2013 (edited) The problem is that the classic buyers aren't really in buyer mode this year - Dodgers have bought enough, Yankees aren't buyers, Angels aren't buyers. Tigers and BoSox could be but they don't really need starters. The Nats will buy when appropriate, but they aren't buying either. Atlanta has been gunshy for years. I think we'll get an idea of what the market looks like when Garza is traded...Cubbies in high Media frenzy to try to get a trade done. My guess is they get a 51-100 prospect for him. If they do better, that should portend well for us. I'd guess something like Peavy, Rios and $10 mill to the Rangers for 2 B prospects and a youngish backup on their ML roster. We might be able to squeeze Olt out of them, as his stock is dropping fast (and he was always overhyped). Crain to someone for a B. That's about it. Edited July 18, 2013 by GreenSox Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
iamshack Posted July 18, 2013 Share Posted July 18, 2013 QUOTE (GreenSox @ Jul 18, 2013 -> 03:57 PM) The problem is that the classic buyers aren't really in buyer mode this year - Dodgers have bought enough, Yankees aren't buyers, Angels aren't buyers. Tigers and BoSox could be but they don't really need starters. The Nats will buy when appropriate, but they aren't buying either. Atlanta has been gunshy for years. I think we'll get an idea of what the market looks like when Garza is traded...Cubbies in high Media frenzy to try to get a trade done. My guess is they get a 51-100 prospect for him. If they do better, that should portend well for us. I'd guess something like Peavy, Rios and $10 mill to the Rangers for 2 B prospects and a youngish backup on their ML roster. We might be able to squeeze Olt out of them, as his stock is dropping fast (and he was always overhyped). Crain to someone for a B. That's about it. I'm not sure we're as eager to dump salary as you might think... Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Knackattack Posted July 19, 2013 Share Posted July 19, 2013 QUOTE (GreenSox @ Jul 18, 2013 -> 03:57 PM) The problem is that the classic buyers aren't really in buyer mode this year - Dodgers have bought enough, Yankees aren't buyers, Angels aren't buyers. Tigers and BoSox could be but they don't really need starters. The Nats will buy when appropriate, but they aren't buying either. Atlanta has been gunshy for years. I think we'll get an idea of what the market looks like when Garza is traded...Cubbies in high Media frenzy to try to get a trade done. My guess is they get a 51-100 prospect for him. If they do better, that should portend well for us. I'd guess something like Peavy, Rios and $10 mill to the Rangers for 2 B prospects and a youngish backup on their ML roster. We might be able to squeeze Olt out of them, as his stock is dropping fast (and he was always overhyped). Crain to someone for a B. That's about it. Peavy = more valuable than Garza Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
GGajewski18 Posted July 19, 2013 Share Posted July 19, 2013 QUOTE (iamshack @ Jul 18, 2013 -> 06:07 PM) I'm not sure we're as eager to dump salary as you might think... Yes you're right, but these guys will bring the most back in trade. At the right price. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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