witesoxfan Posted October 29, 2013 Share Posted October 29, 2013 QUOTE (GoGoSox2k2 @ Oct 29, 2013 -> 11:37 AM) this was a joke right. he did not actually say this? Yes it was a joke Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
southsider2k5 Posted October 29, 2013 Share Posted October 29, 2013 QUOTE (raBBit @ Oct 29, 2013 -> 11:16 AM) I don't know if you know Spanish and heard something different than the translation but the translator said Abreu thanked Rick Hahn first and KW second. Nitpicky, I know, but the the KW haters will flock at any chance given. I was listening to Abreu, and the first thing I recognized was "Kenny Williams". Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Dunt Posted October 29, 2013 Share Posted October 29, 2013 Did he slim down at all? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
southsider2k5 Posted October 29, 2013 Share Posted October 29, 2013 Scott Merkin @scottmerkin 11m KW on Abreu: "One of the things that we did not want to entertain was a guy who was just one dimensional. This guy is a hitter." Barry Praver said eight teams had serious interest in Abreu. Five teams ended up making bids in the $60 million neighborhood Kenny Williams said he wanted to give a standing ovation after watching Abreu work out. Only player to produce such a reaction in his tenure Dan Hayes @DanHayesCSN 22m Jose Abreu can opt out of contract for arbitration with #WhiteSox after three seasons. Would be under team control. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
southsider2k5 Posted October 29, 2013 Share Posted October 29, 2013 Scot Gregor @scotgregor 5m Heard interesting comparison on new White Sox 1B Jose Abreu - Tony Perez Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
fathom Posted October 29, 2013 Share Posted October 29, 2013 QUOTE (southsider2k5 @ Oct 29, 2013 -> 06:29 PM) Dan Hayes @DanHayesCSN 22m Jose Abreu can opt out of contract for arbitration with #WhiteSox after three seasons. Would be under team control. So we'd still have 6 years of control of Abreu? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
southsider2k5 Posted October 29, 2013 Share Posted October 29, 2013 QUOTE (fathom @ Oct 29, 2013 -> 12:38 PM) So we'd still have 6 years of control of Abreu? That is what I took it as. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
cabiness42 Posted October 29, 2013 Share Posted October 29, 2013 So we'd still have 6 years of control of Abreu? Yes, but if he becomes an elite hitter in the first three years, his cost for the last 3 years will be much higher. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
GoGoSox2k2 Posted October 29, 2013 Share Posted October 29, 2013 did anybody have a chance to listen to Hahn when he was on 670 the score with Spiegal and Holmes last hour? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
103 mph screwball Posted October 29, 2013 Share Posted October 29, 2013 QUOTE (HickoryHuskers @ Oct 29, 2013 -> 12:46 PM) Yes, but if he becomes an elite hitter in the first three years, his cost for the last 3 years will be much higher. I hope he opts out and gets 20 million a year in arbitration! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
bmags Posted October 29, 2013 Share Posted October 29, 2013 KW on Abreu: "One of the things that we did not want to entertain was a guy who was just one dimensional. This guy is a hitter." ??? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ChiSox_Sonix Posted October 29, 2013 Share Posted October 29, 2013 QUOTE (bmags @ Oct 29, 2013 -> 02:03 PM) KW on Abreu: "One of the things that we did not want to entertain was a guy who was just one dimensional. This guy is a hitter." ??? Pretty sure he means he can actually hit as opposed to be being an all or nothing big pop HR type of guy Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Harry Chappas Posted October 29, 2013 Share Posted October 29, 2013 QUOTE (103 mph screwball @ Oct 29, 2013 -> 01:02 PM) I hope he opts out and gets 20 million a year in arbitration! You need to remember he goes to arbitration if he lives up to a point where he would get a raise. It would be higher than the $7M annual but most likely closer to $11 or $12. Great deal for both teams. Signing bonus for these guys is huge. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ChiliIrishHammock24 Posted October 29, 2013 Share Posted October 29, 2013 The opt out for arbitration thing sucks to hear. That means his deal can only get more expensive from here. If he turns out awesome, he won't be a bargain his last couple years. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Kyyle23 Posted October 29, 2013 Share Posted October 29, 2013 QUOTE (Chilihead90 @ Oct 29, 2013 -> 01:11 PM) The opt out for arbitration thing sucks to hear. That means his deal can only get more expensive from here. If he turns out awesome, he won't be a bargain his last couple years. The flip side is if he is a mirage, the Sox can cut their losses Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
LittleHurt05 Posted October 29, 2013 Share Posted October 29, 2013 QUOTE (ChiSox_Sonix @ Oct 29, 2013 -> 01:05 PM) Pretty sure he means he can actually hit as opposed to be being an all or nothing big pop HR type of guy Like Adam Dunn? Technically I would call him three dimensional. He also walks and strikes out with the best of them. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
LittleHurt05 Posted October 29, 2013 Share Posted October 29, 2013 QUOTE (KyYlE23 @ Oct 29, 2013 -> 01:19 PM) The flip side is if he is a mirage, the Sox can cut their losses Do the Sox have an opt out option or just Abreu? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ChiliIrishHammock24 Posted October 29, 2013 Share Posted October 29, 2013 (edited) QUOTE (KyYlE23 @ Oct 29, 2013 -> 02:19 PM) The flip side is if he is a mirage, the Sox can cut their losses Only if he ops out after 3 years and THEN sucks. If he sucks from the beginning, he would never opt out after 3 years. Edited October 29, 2013 by Chilihead90 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
lasttriptotulsa Posted October 29, 2013 Share Posted October 29, 2013 QUOTE (LittleHurt05 @ Oct 29, 2013 -> 01:21 PM) Do the Sox have an opt out option or just Abreu? I took it as Abreu would have to opt out. If he sucks, the Sox are still on the hook for the $68 million no matter what. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Kyyle23 Posted October 29, 2013 Share Posted October 29, 2013 well, that kind of sucks Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
103 mph screwball Posted October 29, 2013 Share Posted October 29, 2013 QUOTE (KyYlE23 @ Oct 29, 2013 -> 01:40 PM) well, that kind of sucks I see your point, but doesn't it only suck if he is a superstar and wants more money. Then the Sox have just signed a superstar! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
southsider2k5 Posted October 29, 2013 Share Posted October 29, 2013 QUOTE (Chilihead90 @ Oct 29, 2013 -> 01:23 PM) Only if he ops out after 3 years and THEN sucks. If he sucks from the beginning, he would never opt out after 3 years. I can't see him opting out after three years anyway. I believe the highest 4th year player award is still Ryan Howards $10mil. His 4th year is scheduled to be at $10.5 million. It would '18 and '19 that the Sox could get hit, as they comps get going to higher paid players instead of lower arb status players. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
southsider2k5 Posted October 29, 2013 Share Posted October 29, 2013 QUOTE (KyYlE23 @ Oct 29, 2013 -> 01:40 PM) well, that kind of sucks That is what it takes now to get those deals done. It could have been worse, as Cespedes has an absolute out after 4 years. They could lose him completely without being able to offer arb to keep him. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Dick Allen Posted October 29, 2013 Share Posted October 29, 2013 (edited) QUOTE (southsider2k5 @ Oct 29, 2013 -> 01:52 PM) I can't see him opting out after three years anyway. I believe the highest 4th year player award is still Ryan Howards $10mil. His 4th year is scheduled to be at $10.5 million. It would '18 and '19 that the Sox could get hit, as they comps get going to higher paid players instead of lower arb status players. I agree. He is going to have to be awesome for this to cost the Sox much more than they are locked into now. That's not bad. People need to look at what Ryan Howard had to do to get $10 million. Edited October 29, 2013 by Dick Allen Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
southsider2k5 Posted October 29, 2013 Share Posted October 29, 2013 Abreu with Minoso. https://twitter.com/SN_Baseball/status/3952...2627840/photo/1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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