September 25, 201312 yr Since it seems unlikely anything could happen this week that would significantly change these grades, here it is: C. Sale-A J. Crain-A J. Quintana- A- H. Santiago- B+ J. Peavy- B M. Lindstrom- B A. Garcia- B A. Rios- B A. Reed- B- M. Thornton- B- A. Ramirez- B- N. Jones- C+ C. Gillaspie- C+ A. De Aza- C+ D. Viciedo- C G. Beckham- C A. Rienzo- C A. Dunn- C D. Veal- C- J. Keppinger- D J. Phegley- D T. Flowers- D P. Konerko- D D. Axelrod- D R. Ventura- D D. Cooper- B- J. Manto- D
September 25, 201312 yr C. Sale- A+ J. Crain- A+ J. Quintana- A H. Santiago- A- A. Garcia- B+ J. Peavy- B M. Lindstrom- B A. Rios- B M. Thornton- B- M. Thornton- B- A. Ramirez- B- A. De Aza- B- A. Rienzo- C+ C. Gillaspie- C+ D. Viciedo- C G. Beckham- C A. Dunn- C N. Jones- C- A. Reed- C- D. Veal- D J. Phegley- D D. Axelrod- D J. Keppinger- F P. Konerko- F T. Flowers- F R. Ventura- F- D. Cooper- B+ J. Manto- D- Close to agreeing. Changed some around Edited September 25, 201312 yr by Buehrle>Wood
September 25, 201312 yr QUOTE (fathom @ Sep 25, 2013 -> 04:09 PM) Since it seems unlikely anything could happen this week that would significantly change these grades, here it is: C. Sale-A J. Crain-A J. Quintana- A- H. Santiago- B+ J. Peavy- B M. Lindstrom- B A. Garcia- B A. Rios- B A. Reed- B- M. Thornton- B- A. Ramirez- B- N. Jones- C+ C. Gillaspie- C+ A. De Aza- C+ D. Viciedo- C G. Beckham- C A. Rienzo- C A. Dunn- C D. Veal- C- J. Keppinger- D J. Phegley- D T. Flowers- D P. Konerko- D D. Axelrod- D R. Ventura- D D. Cooper- B- J. Manto- D I would change Quintana to a B+. Santiago B Lindstrom B- Nate Jones C- Veal D Phegley C- Konerko C- Otherwise, pretty good.
September 25, 201312 yr C. Sale-A- J. Crain-C J. Quintana- A- H. Santiago- A- J. Peavy- C+ M. Lindstrom- B A. Garcia- B- A. Rios- C A. Reed- B M. Thornton- C A. Ramirez- C- N. Jones- B- C. GillaspieD+ D. Viciedo- D+ G. Beckham- D- A. Rienzo- B+ A. Dunn- C- D. Veal- D+ J. Keppinger- F J. Phegley- D- T. Flowers- D- P. Konerko- F D. Axelrod- D R. Ventura- F D. Cooper- B J. Manto- F Fathom, you were much more generous than I was.
September 25, 201312 yr Author QUOTE (Balta1701 @ Sep 25, 2013 -> 10:21 PM) Fathom, you were much more generous than I was. I definitely considered giving Keppinger/Konerko/Ventura/Manto an F. Keppinger and Konerko were two of the worst 5 hitters in all of baseball this year according to fangraphs' WAR.
September 25, 201312 yr QUOTE (fathom @ Sep 25, 2013 -> 06:27 PM) Balta, what's with the extremely low grade for Beckham? If he was just any player he'd be right on the border of having played himself into being non-tendered this offseason. His defense is getting worse, his range is going down, and at the time of the year when the excuse I was making for him the whole season, his wrist injury, should have been getting better, he fell apart again. He would have played himself into about a C if he'd kept at least getting hits at a reasonable rate, but his year is borderline terrible again.
September 25, 201312 yr C. Sale-A J. Crain-A J. Quintana-B+ A. Garcia- B H. Santiago- B- C. Gillaspie- C+ J. Peavy- C M. Lindstrom- C A. Rios- C M. Thornton- C N. Jones- C D. Viciedo- C A. Rienzo- C G. Beckham- C- A. De Aza- C- D. Veal- C- A. Reed- D+ A. Dunn- D+ A. Ramirez- D J. Keppinger- D J. Phegley- D T. Flowers- D P. Konerko- D D. Axelrod- D Ventura D Cooper B- Manto D Edited September 25, 201312 yr by Marty34
September 25, 201312 yr On a scale out of 100 being the best: C. Sale- 98 J. Crain- 94 J. Quintana- 87 A. Garcia- 85 H. Santiago- 83 A. Ramirez- 83 A. De Aza- 83 C. Gillaspie- 80 G. Beckham- 80 J. Peavy- 79 M. Lindstrom- 79 A. Rios- 79 M. Thornton- 77 N. Jones- 77 D. Viciedo- 77 A. Rienzo- 76 P. Konerko- 75 D. Veal- 73 A. Reed- 73 A. Dunn- 73 J. Keppinger- 69 J. Phegley- 67 T. Flowers- 66 D. Axelrod- 48 Ventura- 65 Cooper- 87 Manto- 74
September 25, 201312 yr I'll just say some of these grades are insane. Edited September 25, 201312 yr by TaylorStSox
September 25, 201312 yr Also, my sad preseason projections. Chicago White Sox- 86-76, 2nd place in AL Central Pitching 1. Sale- 18-12, 3.02 2. Peavy- 16-10, 3.19 3. Quintana- 12-8, 3.74 4. Santiago- 6-14, 3.88 5. Danks- 10-12, 3.86 SP Totals: 62-56, 3.54 Axelrod- 3-7, 4.85 Jones- 6-2, 3.37 Crain- 2-4, 2.67, SV Veal- 3-0, 4.33 Thornton- 2-6, 3.45 Lindstrom- 6-0, 2.99 Reed- 2-1, 3.44, 42 SV RP Totals: 12-20, 3.66 Batting Flowers- .207, 18/37 Konerko- .267, 18/61 Dunn- .212, 43/92 Beckham- .266, 7/45 Ramirez- .281, 15/74 Keppinger- .272, 8/53 Viciedo- .262, 27/76 De Aza- .267 15/50 Rios- .277, 20/78 Batting Totals: .257, 171/566 Edited September 25, 201312 yr by ChiSoxFan05
September 25, 201312 yr QUOTE (TaylorStSox @ Sep 26, 2013 -> 12:12 AM) It's like everyone forgets Beckham is one of the worst players in the AL. Other than Sale, Crain, Quintana, Santiago, Garcia and Reed (for about 4 1/2 months) I'd fail every one of them. And don't forget Award For Special Achievement: Kenny Williams. He is the architect of this disaster.
September 25, 201312 yr QUOTE (fathom @ Sep 25, 2013 -> 06:34 PM) Can't believe I forgot J. Danks...I'd give him a C I know... when I copied and pasted yours I realized that we were missing 20% of our starting staff
September 26, 201312 yr QUOTE (fathom @ Sep 25, 2013 -> 05:09 PM) Since it seems unlikely anything could happen this week that would significantly change these grades, here it is: C. Sale-A J. Crain-A J. Quintana- A- H. Santiago- B+ J. Peavy- B M. Lindstrom- B A. Garcia- B A. Rios- B A. Reed- B- M. Thornton- B- A. Ramirez- B- N. Jones- C+ C. Gillaspie- C+ A. De Aza- C+ D. Viciedo- C G. Beckham- C A. Rienzo- C A. Dunn- C D. Veal- C- J. Keppinger- D J. Phegley- D T. Flowers- D P. Konerko- D D. Axelrod- D R. Ventura- D D. Cooper- B- J. Manto- D You can't pretty much lose 100 games with no F's.
September 26, 201312 yr QUOTE (southsider2k5 @ Sep 25, 2013 -> 07:06 PM) You can't pretty much lose 100 games with no F's. Without looking it up, Keppinger has about 15 xbh's in about 600 PA's. He makes up for it with awful defense. If that's not an F, I don't know what an F is.
September 26, 201312 yr QUOTE (TaylorStSox @ Sep 25, 2013 -> 08:18 PM) Without looking it up, Keppinger has about 15 xbh's in about 600 PA's. He makes up for it with awful defense. If that's not an F, I don't know what an F is. And you can't make any reasonable excuses like he's still young or he wasn't expected to do more.
September 26, 201312 yr QUOTE (TaylorStSox @ Sep 25, 2013 -> 06:18 PM) Without looking it up, Keppinger has about 15 xbh's in about 600 PA's. He makes up for it with awful defense. If that's not an F, I don't know what an F is. Probably more like 450 PA's. Yeah, most expected a lot better from him(I know I did) but an F is pretty harsh for someone who for a few pretty good stretches was the Sox' most consistent hitter. He had a couple of months where he hit over .300 and had a decent OBP too. I gave him a D.
September 26, 201312 yr QUOTE (TaylorStSox @ Sep 25, 2013 -> 07:18 PM) Without looking it up, Keppinger has about 15 xbh's in about 600 PA's. He makes up for it with awful defense. If that's not an F, I don't know what an F is. At the very least, Kepp, Konerko, and Axe have to be F's, as well as Flowers.
September 26, 201312 yr QUOTE (BigEdWalsh @ Sep 25, 2013 -> 07:50 PM) Probably more like 450 PA's. Yeah, most expected a lot better from him(I know I did) but an F is pretty harsh for someone who for a few pretty good stretches was the Sox' most consistent hitter. He had a couple of months where he hit over .300 and had a decent OBP too. I gave him a D. I was figuring he'd be a little bit better but I'd be around the D to F range for him too. For crying out loud the guy had a higher batting average than on base percentage for 1/3 of the year. Not too long ago someone made a job about having a below .400 slug% in slow pitch softball or something like that. One of the funniest posts of the season I thought!
September 26, 201312 yr QUOTE (fathom @ Sep 25, 2013 -> 04:09 PM) Since it seems unlikely anything could happen this week that would significantly change these grades, here it is: C. Sale-A J. Crain-A J. Quintana- A- H. Santiago- B+ J. Peavy- B M. Lindstrom- B A. Garcia- B A. Rios- B A. Reed- B- M. Thornton- B- A. Ramirez- B- N. Jones- C+ C. Gillaspie- C+ A. De Aza- C+ D. Viciedo- C G. Beckham- C A. Rienzo- C A. Dunn- C D. Veal- C- J. Keppinger- D J. Phegley- D T. Flowers- D P. Konerko- D D. Axelrod- D R. Ventura- D D. Cooper- B- J. Manto- D Too hard on Gillaspie, too easy on Veal... Maybe Viciedo can be a C+ considering he was fighting injuries for part of the way, but then does that excuse Konerko? Not really. What about your impression of Leury Garcia so far?
September 26, 201312 yr Sale. A Q. A Santiago. B Danks. B- Axelrod. C Peavy. C Flowers. F Phegley. D Konerko. D Beckham. D Alexei. C- Gillaspie. B Keppinger. F Dunn. B- Rios. B- Tank. C De Aza. C- honestly didn't watch enough to give the bullpen fair grades
September 26, 201312 yr C. Sale-A- J. Crain-B J. Quintana- A H. Santiago- B J. Peavy- B+ M. Lindstrom- B- A. Garcia- B A. Rios- C A. Reed- C M. Thornton- D A. Ramirez- C+ N. Jones- C C. Gillaspie- B- A. De Aza- C D. Viciedo- D+ G. Beckham- B- A. Rienzo- Inc. A. Dunn- C- D. Veal- C- J. Keppinger- F J. Phegley- D T. Flowers- F P. Konerko- D D. Axelrod- F R. Ventura- C D. Cooper- A J. Manto- F R. Hahn - Inc. Let the rebuild begin Edited September 26, 201312 yr by daggins
September 26, 201312 yr Don't care for individual grades. Team/coaching/organization grade: F The White Sox are ratchet and busted. Edited September 26, 201312 yr by Jordan4life
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