macsandz Posted November 15, 2013 Share Posted November 15, 2013 (edited) FYI, if you're concerned about the catching situation so is Rick. Was told Jaso is high on the wish list due to his high OBP contact bat from the left side. Had good talks recently with Beane but not sure it can move past prelim talks as his medicals are TBD due to concussion. Edited November 15, 2013 by bucket-of-suck Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
chw42 Posted November 15, 2013 Share Posted November 15, 2013 QUOTE (bucket-of-suck @ Nov 14, 2013 -> 09:33 PM) FYI, if you're concerned about the catching situation so is Rick. Was told Jaso is high on the wish list due to his high OBP contact bat from the left side. Had good talks recently with Beane but not sure it can move past prelim talks as his medicals are TBD due to concussion. Woo! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Quin Posted November 15, 2013 Share Posted November 15, 2013 This is a definite "we're making other moves and plan on contending in 2014" move to me. Also, can we just make a Catch-er All thread? We've got separate ones on McCann, Wieters, Castro, Salty, Jaso and that's not including Rosario and a few others. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jordan4life_2007 Posted November 15, 2013 Share Posted November 15, 2013 (edited) QUOTE (Quinarvy @ Nov 14, 2013 -> 09:51 PM) This is a definite "we're making other moves and plan on contending in 2014" move to me. Also, can we just make a Catch-er All thread? We've got separate ones on McCann, Wieters, Castro, Salty, Jaso and that's not including Rosario and a few others. No. That sucked. I like it the way it is now. Like Wieters for example. I can just go straight to that thread (and I have been) and know it's going to be all about him. With catch all I'd have to gloss/skip over countless posts that have nothing to do with what I'm looking for (Wieters in this case). Edited November 15, 2013 by Jordan4life Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Quin Posted November 15, 2013 Share Posted November 15, 2013 QUOTE (Jordan4life @ Nov 14, 2013 -> 10:01 PM) No. That sucked. I like it the way it is now. Like Wieters for example. I can just go straight to that thread (and I have been) and know it's going to be all about him. With catch all I'd have to gloss/skip over countless posts that have nothing to do with what I'm looking for (Wieters in this case). Part of me just really wanted to make that pun. But good point. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
South Side Fireworks Man Posted November 15, 2013 Share Posted November 15, 2013 QUOTE (bucket-of-suck @ Nov 14, 2013 -> 10:33 PM) FYI, if you're concerned about the catching situation so is Rick. Was told Jaso is high on the wish list due to his high OBP contact bat from the left side. Had good talks recently with Beane but not sure it can move past prelim talks as his medicals are TBD due to concussion. Any idea what Beane would be asking for Jaso? If he doesn't cost too much to acquire, I'd be happy with him behind the plate for the Sox. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
2nd_city_saint787 Posted November 15, 2013 Share Posted November 15, 2013 I been harping about trying to get Jaso all offseason. Oakland fans said they'd trade him for organizational pitching depth...Fans obviously aren't the ones making the deals but I think they might be able to get it done for something like Snodgress/Jaye and maybe a lower level guy or 2. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
chw42 Posted November 15, 2013 Share Posted November 15, 2013 QUOTE (scs787 @ Nov 14, 2013 -> 10:49 PM) I been harping about trying to get Jaso all offseason. Oakland fans said they'd trade him for organizational pitching depth...Fans obviously aren't the ones making the deals but I think they might be able to get it done for something like Snodgress/Jaye and maybe a lower level guy or 2. Would you trade somebody like Hector for Jaso? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
fathom Posted November 15, 2013 Share Posted November 15, 2013 QUOTE (chw42 @ Nov 15, 2013 -> 05:53 AM) Would you trade somebody like Hector for Jaso? No way Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
CaliSoxFanViaSWside Posted November 15, 2013 Share Posted November 15, 2013 QUOTE (chw42 @ Nov 14, 2013 -> 08:53 PM) Would you trade somebody like Hector for Jaso? Rienzo Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
2nd_city_saint787 Posted November 15, 2013 Share Posted November 15, 2013 QUOTE (chw42 @ Nov 14, 2013 -> 11:53 PM) Would you trade somebody like Hector for Jaso? Not straight up. Maybe a package of something like Jaso, Doolittle(LH reliever), and a hitting prospect Steverson likes. I loves me some Jaso, but he's a platoon player, I'd hate trading Hector for a platoon player. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Eminor3rd Posted November 15, 2013 Share Posted November 15, 2013 Isn't he really bad defensively? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Eminor3rd Posted November 15, 2013 Share Posted November 15, 2013 QUOTE (scs787 @ Nov 14, 2013 -> 11:06 PM) Not straight up. Maybe a package of something like Jaso, Doolittle(LH reliever), and a hitting prospect Steverson likes. I loves me some Jaso, but he's a platoon player, I'd hate trading Hector for a platoon player. Catcher is the one place where you can really deal with a lefty platoon player -- because they need to rest so much anyway, it works out. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
witesoxfan Posted November 15, 2013 Share Posted November 15, 2013 QUOTE (Eminor3rd @ Nov 14, 2013 -> 11:15 PM) Isn't he really bad defensively? Career CS% of 18%. I like Jaso, but yeah, Rienzo is the most I'd give up. That he's going into his age 30 season and is a free agent next year, I probably wouldn't even do that. Bassitt seems more reasonable. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Vance Law Posted November 15, 2013 Share Posted November 15, 2013 QUOTE (scs787 @ Nov 15, 2013 -> 01:06 AM) Not straight up. Maybe a package of something like Jaso, Doolittle(LH reliever), and a hitting prospect Steverson likes. I loves me some Jaso, but he's a platoon player, I'd hate trading Hector for a platoon player. Pretty much all catchers are basically platoon players. Or should be. This is the important half of the platoon. Which we lack. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
chw42 Posted November 15, 2013 Share Posted November 15, 2013 QUOTE (fathom @ Nov 14, 2013 -> 10:53 PM) No way Jaso's very much a one dimensional player, but he's the kind of one dimensional player this team needs and he plays a position that we lack. Maybe Hector for Jaso straight up is overpaying, but I think a deal around Hector for Jaso + other parts would work. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
2nd_city_saint787 Posted November 15, 2013 Share Posted November 15, 2013 QUOTE (Eminor3rd @ Nov 15, 2013 -> 01:16 AM) Catcher is the one place where you can really deal with a lefty platoon player -- because they need to rest so much anyway, it works out. QUOTE (Vance Law @ Nov 15, 2013 -> 01:41 AM) Pretty much all catchers are basically platoon players. Or should be. This is the important half of the platoon. Which we lack. True enough, still wouldn't trade them Santiago straight up for him though. Deals centered around he and Doolittle or he and Max Muncy is more like it though. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
chw42 Posted November 15, 2013 Share Posted November 15, 2013 QUOTE (raBBit @ Nov 14, 2013 -> 11:55 PM) We cannot even entertain Jaso-Santiago. I think something like Flowers, Carlos Sanchez and a low level arm would work. Oakland has no real reason to trade Jaso (he's in a good platoon with Norris) unless they think Vogt is a respectable replacement. I don't think they're going to take our garbage and give us back a guy who can get on base at a .370 clip. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Quin Posted November 15, 2013 Share Posted November 15, 2013 Yeah, no for Hector on this. Rienzo is the absolute highest I'd go. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Chicago White Sox Posted November 15, 2013 Share Posted November 15, 2013 I think Jaso would be under team control for two seasons, but yeah, you can't trade Santiago for a 30 year old catcher. If you can get him for say a B prospect, then I'd totally be on board. His bat would be a big step in the right direction and a huge upgrade over what we got out of the catcher's position. I think if you make this type of trade, you need to try to sign him to a 3 or 4 year deal so he's more than just a stop-gap and can buy the organization a decent amount of time to develop a good, young catcher. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
glangon Posted November 15, 2013 Share Posted November 15, 2013 If we ask Oakland nicely, they might take Keppinger Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
LittleHurt05 Posted November 15, 2013 Share Posted November 15, 2013 QUOTE (chw42 @ Nov 14, 2013 -> 10:53 PM) Would you trade somebody like Hector for Jaso? Sure, if the Sox were legit playoff contenders in 2014 and catcher was the only major hole left. Of course that's not the case, so I say no. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
harfman77 Posted November 15, 2013 Share Posted November 15, 2013 Jaso is one of the worst defensive catchers in baseball. He is bat is decent, but no way should the Sox give up anything of substantive value for someone who is likely to make the best part of your team worse. There is a reason he keeps getting traded. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
TheFutureIsNear Posted November 15, 2013 Share Posted November 15, 2013 I like Jaso as well. He would be my 1st option at catcher. Ryan Hanigan would be my #2 option. Very similar to Jaso, just bats RH Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jake Posted November 15, 2013 Share Posted November 15, 2013 This would be a nice get. I don't think it should cost too much, but I'm not really sure what Oakland would be looking for nor do I know exactly why they would want to part with him Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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