We have suffered long enough. All our prospects are prospects, dammit.

 

If anyone really wants to only rank the Trayce Thompsons etc then please do so in quiet, lights off. In a back room.

Edited December 16, 201312 yr by Jose Paniagua

Had an off-convo with John Manuel from BA. Pretty sure Hawkins is not in the Top 3. Abreu, Johnson, and likely Anderson are your BA Top 3 (based on his hints about infielders). Davidson 4. Semien is likely in the 6-10 range, my guess. He wouldn't give straight answers, but that is the picture I got.

 

Had an off-convo with John Manuel from BA. Pretty sure Hawkins is not in the Top 3. Abreu, Johnson, and likely Anderson are your BA Top 3 (based on his hints about infielders). Davidson 4. Semien is likely in the 6-10 range, my guess. He wouldn't give straight answers, but that is the picture I got.

BP top 3 is Johnson, Anderson , Hawkins. I guess they didn't consider Abreu a prospect, but he certainly would have to be considered #1 if he is.

Edited December 16, 201312 yr by Dick Allen

BP top 3 is Johnson, Anderson , Hawkins

BP BA

 

BA list comes out in January, as does the FutureSox list.

 

BP BA

 

BA list comes out in January, as does the FutureSox list.

I do know Phil Rogers has had a lot of input with BA on White Sox lists in the past. It was all part of Wilder's scheme. He would talk the frauds up with Phil to kind of hide his crime.

I use the Hawk barometer. If he starts hinting bad things about someone, the Sox think he is uncoachable.

Did that happen with Viciedo?

David Cameron @DCameronFG

Rick Hahn should just keep trading with Kevin Towers. Turned meh starter and meh closer into two interesting young players.

Edited December 16, 201312 yr by witesoxfan

David Cameron @DCameronFG

Rick Hahn should just keep trading with Kevin Towers. Turned meh starter and meh closer into two interesting young players.

Seems kinda unfair. I don't know that I would consider either Reed or Santiago "meh" considering their ages or ceilings.

Did that happen with Viciedo?

 

I sure missed it if it did.

Wow.. thank god I don't have to try and defend Middlebrooks ever again! Thank you Hahn.

That thought crossed my mind the last couple hours. This is Hahn's team.

Kenny presided over the best farm system in baseball before he became a GM. Kenny has been scouting these guys, and that's probably not a bad thing.

 

Also, when the Sox get good again, Hahn will trade prospects for proven vets to win, just like Kenny.

 

This is Jerry Reinsdorf's team.

Kevin Towers baffles me EVERY time

Diamondbacks blew 29 saves last year. Tied Houston for last. Getting Trumbo means Prado moves to 3rd and he's under control for 3 years. Davidson was expendable for a ML closer.

Wow.. thank god I don't have to try and defend Middlebrooks ever again! Thank you Hahn.

 

lol, it was a valiant effort.

I do know Phil Rogers has had a lot of input with BA on White Sox lists in the past. It was all part of Wilder's scheme. He would talk the frauds up with Phil to kind of hide his crime.

I got the impression this was more BA guys doing the list this time. But maybe Rogers is still involved, I don't know. I hope not.

 

Borth Eaton and Avi have 2 seasons before they are arb eligible, 2016 is their first Arb eligible season.

Who the f*** is that guy?

Diamondbacks blew 29 saves last year. Tied Houston for last. Getting Trumbo means Prado moves to 3rd and he's under control for 3 years. Davidson was expendable for a ML closer.

 

It's not that he wanted a closer, it's that he constantly overpays. He treats his players like no one wants them.

Who the f*** is that guy?

 

Borth Eaton would be the best name I've ever heard

Borth Eaton would be the best name I've ever heard

DIBS ON BAND NAME

If Hahn dumps Adam Dunn now I won't do a handstand, I'll do a Hahnstand hahaha yeah I like this deal, always like trading closers.

 

Jones has better stuff anyway, let him rack up some saves & then send him out at the deadline

 

Next bring in Webb, whoever

 

Trade, trade, trade the closers.

I'd be shocked if Jones isn't the closer heading into the season.

 

As he should.

 

He had an xFIP of 2.77 last year. He should thrive in the role.

 

Damn I love Rick Hahn.

so happy to know that Hahn and The Chairman were as discouraged by last season as the fan base.

 

Hahn definitely is executing a plan. He knows what he wants -- and what he doesn't want.

 

I always thought Williams was too impulsive with his deals and frequently gave up too much.

 

Don't have the same feeling with Hahn.

 

Better times ahead.

Seems kinda unfair. I don't know that I would consider either Reed or Santiago "meh" considering their ages or ceilings.

 

Santiago is pretty meh honestly.

so happy to know that Hahn and The Chairman were as discouraged by last season as the fan base.

 

Hahn definitely is executing a plan. He knows what he wants -- and what he doesn't want.

 

I always thought Williams was too impulsive with his deals and frequently gave up too much.

 

Don't have the same feeling with Hahn.

 

Better times ahead.

 

I think Kenny definitely knew what he wanted. The difference, I think, is that Hahn looks like he's willing to walk away from a deal if he doesn't like how it's shaking out. KW always got his man, no matter what it cost.

FWIW, Keith Law and Dave Cameron both love this trade for us. Jason Parks does not.

Absolutely love this deal. Getting one the elite 3b prospects in the minors and controlled for the next 6 years.