January 17, 201412 yr Joel Sherman @Joelsherman1 5m #Whitesox and Gordon Beckham avoided arb. He gets $4.175M
January 17, 201412 yr Author Joel Sherman @Joelsherman1 2m Arb avoidance: Duensing ($2M) #Twins, James Russell ($1.775M) #Cubs, De Aza ($4.25M) #Whitesox
January 17, 201412 yr Looks like the Sox have 14 players signed at 73.425. So probably low 80's by opening day. Unless...
January 17, 201412 yr QUOTE (flavum @ Jan 17, 2014 -> 01:28 PM) Looks like the Sox have 14 players signed at 73.425. So probably low 80's by opening day. Unless... The B-R counter would put them at $86 not counting Abreu's signing bonus.
January 17, 201412 yr QUOTE (flavum @ Jan 17, 2014 -> 12:28 PM) Looks like the Sox have 14 players signed at 73.425. So probably low 80's by opening day. Unless... ...the sox sign ERVIN SANTANA 4/100!!!!!! QUOTE (Balta1701 @ Jan 17, 2014 -> 12:37 PM) The B-R counter would put them at $86 not counting Abreu's signing bonus. pfffft, the Sabermetric thread says that F counter is better than B-R counter
January 17, 201412 yr QUOTE (Balta1701 @ Jan 17, 2014 -> 12:37 PM) The B-R counter would put them at $86 not counting Abreu's signing bonus. Oh yeah, that guy.
January 17, 201412 yr Looks like the Sox have 14 players signed at 73.425. So probably low 80's by opening day. Unless... I include Abreu's entire signing bonus in 2014 payroll since that is when he actually gets the money. I have 15 players signed for $88.975 million. 10 more players at or near rookie salaries puts it at about $94 million. Edited January 17, 201412 yr by HickoryHuskers
January 17, 201412 yr QUOTE (HickoryHuskers @ Jan 17, 2014 -> 12:39 PM) I include Abreu's entire signing bonus in 2014 payroll since that is when he actually gets the money. I have 15 players signed for $88.075 million. 8 more player at or near rookie salaries puts it at about $94 million. Yeah, I was looking at B-R and I completely forgot about Abreu. Mid-90's seems right.
January 17, 201412 yr If somehow ADA got a slight uptick in production, batted lower and got hidden in LF......then $4M is great value there
January 17, 201412 yr Author QUOTE (Jose Paniagua @ Jan 17, 2014 -> 01:14 PM) If somehow ADA got a slight uptick in production, batted lower and got hidden in LF......then $4M is great value there I would settle for a little less baseball dumb.
January 17, 201412 yr I am still not convinced Sox are going to keep De Aza and pay him $4.25 million for a reduced role in 2014.
January 17, 201412 yr QUOTE (flavum @ Jan 17, 2014 -> 03:53 PM) https://twitter.com/gordonbeckham/status/424282945264709632 Gordon has been rushed to the majors and as a result has had to learn and develop mostly at the major league level. The curve has been steep, but I think we are going to see that breakout year we've been waiting for from Gordo, if he can stay healthy.
January 17, 201412 yr QUOTE (ewokpelts @ Jan 17, 2014 -> 04:14 PM) Does anyone actually call Beckham "gordo'? I do.
January 18, 201412 yr I would have let gordon walk, and I'm an optimist. No one would trade for that guy at that price. Its holding on to a losing hand at this point. I wish we would have used that money toward something else. I don't often say that.
January 18, 201412 yr Author QUOTE (MAX @ Jan 17, 2014 -> 10:45 PM) I would have let gordon walk, and I'm an optimist. No one would trade for that guy at that price. Its holding on to a losing hand at this point. I wish we would have used that money toward something else. I don't often say that. What exactly are you buying in today's MLB for just over $4 million?
January 18, 201412 yr QUOTE (southsider2k5 @ Jan 18, 2014 -> 08:25 AM) What exactly are you buying in today's MLB for just over $4 million? Gordon Beckham or Alexandro De Aza Edited January 18, 201412 yr by Al Lopez's Ghost
January 18, 201412 yr QUOTE (southsider2k5 @ Jan 18, 2014 -> 08:25 AM) What exactly are you buying in today's MLB for just over $4 million? Jeff Keppinger. Veteran 7th inning set-up guys.
January 18, 201412 yr QUOTE (MAX @ Jan 17, 2014 -> 11:45 PM) I would have let gordon walk, and I'm an optimist. No one would trade for that guy at that price. Its holding on to a losing hand at this point. I wish we would have used that money toward something else. I don't often say that. If he doesn't improve on this year's season, he's a 1 year stop-gap that Marcus Semien or Carlos Sanchez starts taking at-bats from in September.
January 18, 201412 yr Let's say bacon does have a career year (which i doubt myself), do you try and lock him up to a multi-year deal?
January 18, 201412 yr Amazing what $4M buys a lot of mediocrity. It's not much different than government programs.
January 18, 201412 yr QUOTE (TheTruth05 @ Jan 18, 2014 -> 11:57 AM) Let's say bacon does have a career year (which i doubt myself), do you try and lock him up to a multi-year deal? At this point I'm not sure. Probably not, honestly.
January 18, 201412 yr QUOTE (raBBit @ Jan 18, 2014 -> 01:55 PM) Trading him in July might be in play too but Beckham would first have to break out. If he were to "Break out" I think that makes trading him this July very unlikely, they'd want to keep playing him for now. If he had 1.5 good years, then maybe next summer that could be thought about if the team was still terrible around him. If he struggles this year and just repeats his last year, I could see him being moved somewhere that has a 2b who gets hurt during the year and needs a cheap replacement they're not required to hold onto.
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