I would take Nimmo,8-15 range player plus another interesting arm

There was a bunch actually. The initial reaction was a negative one. Then several posters reminded everyone how much of a regression candidate Santiago was and the publications went to war for Hahn.

I wasn't sure about how many but I'm pretty sure you're right, there was plenty of bad reactions. To me, I thought the Sox did well considering Santiago was mostly a two pitch pitcher with a show me kind of slider and had a heck of a time staying in the strike zone. I think at one point towards the end of the 2013 season he managed to piss of Coop.

 

Buster Olney ‏@Buster_ESPN 9m9 minutes ago

Mets would seem like a perfect match on paper for possible Alexei Ramirez deal, given their surplus of pitching and CHW needs.

I'm not against this depending on the return but who the hell plays SS? The idea of Semien or Sanchez playing SS is very unsettling. I suppose the Sox could sign Drew? Hanley? Lowrie?

Mets are going after Tulo now.

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I think if the Mets were willing to trade Wheeler for Ramirez, I'd have a really, really hard time turning it down. I understand the value of Ramirez and that he remains a fairly good player, but you cut $10 mill in salary and add like 5 years of control to the rotation.

Same here. Yesterday I was watching highlights of Wheeler and salivating. When he's on, oh s*** is he filthy!

Mets are going after Tulo now.

 

Gonna be way too expensive for them, I still think they go after Alexei

I wasn't sure about how many but I'm pretty sure you're right, there was plenty of bad reactions. To me, I thought the Sox did well considering Santiago was mostly a two pitch pitcher with a show me kind of slider and had a heck of a time staying in the strike zone. I think at one point towards the end of the 2013 season he managed to piss of Coop.

 

 

I'm not against this depending on the return but who the hell plays SS? The idea of Semien or Sanchez playing SS is very unsettling. I suppose the Sox could sign Drew? Hanley? Lowrie?

 

Maybe Asdrubal Cabrera? Sign him to a 3-4 year deal and flip him when Anderson is ready.

Gonna be way too expensive for them, I still think they go after Alexei

 

The Rockies would probably prefer the Mets though, as they have more young talented pitchers to offer.

I've been discussing this with Met fans all day. They dont seem to realize it's going to take one of their top 4 for Alexei. Sorry it just is. Go find me a player with his health and production/value at SS that's available then give me a call.

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I would love to get one of their best young starters, Kevin Plawecki, and they could send Flores over for Alexei.

I think if the Mets were willing to trade Wheeler for Ramirez, I'd have a really, really hard time turning it down. I understand the value of Ramirez and that he remains a fairly good player, but you cut $10 mill in salary and add like 5 years of control to the rotation.

And he's a left handed bat!

Gonna be way too expensive for them, I still think they go after Alexei

Yup, I agree. "Due diligence" are the words that stuck out the most when I read the rumor at MLBTR. There's no doubt that Tulo would cost plenty more than Alexei.

 

Maybe Asdrubal Cabrera? Sign him to a 3-4 year deal and flip him when Anderson is ready.

I'm not very high on Cabrera's bat to be honest. I'd prefer Lowrie, doesn't strike out much and can draw some walks too.

This Jung-Ho Kang fellow sounds rather interesting as a replacement at SS. If the Mets offered up Wheeler I couldn't say no. A rotation at midseason and beyond that features Sale-Q-Wheeler-Rodon is young and exciting.

 

 

This Jung-Ho Kang fellow sounds rather interesting as a replacement at SS. If the Mets offered up Wheeler I couldn't say no. A rotation at midseason and beyond that features Sale-Q-Wheeler-Rodon is young and exciting.

 

either way, he does sound enticing and can provide options.

 

i wonder if he can play 3b?

I'm not against this depending on the return but who the hell plays SS? The idea of Semien or Sanchez playing SS is very unsettling. I suppose the Sox could sign Drew? Hanley? Lowrie?

 

Semien would be a fine alternative until Anderson is ready. Semien is ready to play everyday.

Semien MIGHT be "okay."

 

I don't think anyone really wants to see Leury Garcia out there for 140-150 games in 2015.

 

Sanchez would be better defensively than Semien but has a limited offensive upside and profiles more like Eduardo Escobar, a supersub/utility guy.

 

Then you have Saladino coming off TJ surgery, so no way he could be counted on at SS.

Semien MIGHT be "okay."

 

I don't think anyone really wants to see Leury Garcia out there for 140-150 games in 2015.

 

Sanchez would be better defensively than Semien but has a limited offensive upside and profiles more like Eduardo Escobar, a supersub/utility guy.

 

Then you have Saladino coming off TJ surgery, so no way he could be counted on at SS.

Even if Semien isn't the long term solution it still would be good to give him an opportunity to show he can be an everyday SS to increase his value as a future trade chip.

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Semien would be a fine alternative until Anderson is ready. Semien is ready to play everyday.

I don't know man. Semien has not played much SS and he was not defensively impressive at third although he looked better at second.

 

Semien MIGHT be "okay."

 

I don't think anyone really wants to see Leury Garcia out there for 140-150 games in 2015.

 

Sanchez would be better defensively than Semien but has a limited offensive upside and profiles more like Eduardo Escobar, a supersub/utility guy.

 

Then you have Saladino coming off TJ surgery, so no way he could be counted on at SS.

Agree with everything you say here Caulfield. Sanchez would be my choice for SS, defensively speaking. Too bad we can't take the switch hitting/ batting average from Sanchez, Garcia's speed/ defense, Semiens eye/ power and put it all together for a pretty damn good young SS. We need those two kids from the movie Weird Science.

 

If the Sox were to trade Alexei, I wouldn't mind seeing them try to sign Jed Lowrie who's reportedly looking for a salary in the same range as Alexei.

PLEASE GOD TRADE HIM

I don't know man. Semien has not played much SS and he was not defensively impressive at third although he looked better at second.

 

 

Actually, SS is the position Semien has played the most in the minors.

 

SS- 256 games

2B- 106 games

3B- 90 games

 

He hasn't played it a lot at the major league level because Lexi is a robot who rarely gets a day off.

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I would want more than Montero for Alexei.

 

I would hope for at least Montero, and Plawecki. Of course you would hope for a Wheeler, or a Syndergaard too.

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Montero would be a good return given his age (24), contract status (under control until 2021), and is a RH starter. Don't get me wrong here. Maybe I am just overvaluing my own player, but I would still like the Mets to throw in something else if they were to make a deal. Preferably something that would fill another void like C (Plawlecki) since he is blocked by Travis D'Arnaud anyway.

Edited November 11, 201411 yr by woods of ypres

Montero would be a good return given his age (24), contract status (under control until 2021), and is a RH starter. Don't get me wrong here. Maybe I am just overvaluing my own player, but I would still like the Mets to throw in something else if they were to make a deal. Preferably something that would fill another void like C (Plawlecki) since he is blocked by Travis D'Arnaud anyway.

 

I'll take Montero and Mejia.

I went over to the Mets board to talk about Alexei. I told them that obviously that the Sox hold Alexei more valuable than the Mets so the asking price is going to be high.

 

I told them that the asking price would probably start with Montero and Plawecki, and add a lottery ticket prospect. 2 members responded to me and said no chance they give all that up for Alexei.

 

I even saw a proposal of Alexei and Avisail for Montero and Ceccini....

Actually, SS is the position Semien has played the most in the minors.

 

SS- 256 games

2B- 106 games

3B- 90 games

 

He hasn't played it a lot at the major league level because Lexi is a robot who rarely gets a day off.

Thanks for the correction. I did not realize Semien had played that many games at SS. I'm still uneasy with Semien at SS but I was wrong on his previous experience at the position no doubt.

Alexei for Plawecki