Pirates just giving him a false sense of security for the WC game

arrieta has always had talent, even when he struggled in Baltimore, but absolutely nothing about his career makes sense statistically. Only thing I've seen similar is halladay.

Pirates just giving him a false sense of security for the WC game

 

Yeah, that's got to be it.

 

 

arrieta has always had talent, even when he struggled in Baltimore, but absolutely nothing about his career makes sense statistically. Only thing I've seen similar is halladay.

Added 2-3 mph to fastball and that insane cutter

Nice Polanco

Yeah, that's got to be it.

 

You should know me well enough to know that's sarcasm

So, fathom. Do you hate the 2011 Red Sox? If not for that collapse, Theo might still be in Boston. lol.

So, fathom. Do you hate the 2011 Red Sox? If not for that collapse, Theo might still be in Boston. lol.

 

Nah, so much has gone right for them that I don't think it's all Theo's magic

arrieta has always had talent, even when he struggled in Baltimore, but absolutely nothing about his career makes sense statistically. Only thing I've seen similar is halladay.

 

Actually, he reminds me of Kluber last season. Out of nowhere untouchable

Nah, so much has gone right for them that I don't think it's all Theo's magic

 

I disagree. Theo rebuilt basically the entire FO, scouting department, etc. It's not ALL him. But the origin of their transformation begins and ends with Theo.

I disagree. Theo rebuilt basically the entire FO, scouting department, etc. It's not ALL him. But the origin of their transformation begins and ends with Theo.

 

Lots of teams wanted Arrieta, who to me is the reason they are ahead of schedule. Crappy thing is he was headed to Nationals in a trade from Orioles but Orioles owner wouldn't sign off on it due to their rivalry.

Only this year could Castro go from pitcher-hitting levels to Bryce Harper-levels after no one wanted him at the deadline. He's the anti-Samardzija

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Lots of teams wanted Arrieta, who to me is the reason they are ahead of schedule. Crappy thing is he was headed to Nationals in a trade from Orioles but Orioles owner wouldn't sign off on it due to their rivalry.

 

Yet the Cubs got him for Scott Feldman and some bum I can't even remember. Not buying it.

Yet the Cubs got him for Scott Feldman and some bum I can't even remember. Not buying it.

 

At the time, some speculated the main part of the trade the Cubs wanted was the slot money for Eloy Jimenez

Yet the Cubs got him for Scott Feldman and some bum I can't even remember. Not buying it.

 

The White Sox are geniuses for acquiring Quintana but the Cubs are lucky they got Arrieta.

The White Sox are geniuses for acquiring Quintana but the Cubs are lucky they got Arrieta.

 

Ha. I guess Rizzo was luck, too? Getting Russell+ for a .500 pitcher was luck, too? Fowler/Montero/Coghlan? More luck, I guess.

Ha. I guess Rizzo was luck, too? Getting Russell+ for a .500 pitcher was luck, too? Fowler/Montero/Coghlan? More luck, I guess.

 

Rizzo wasn't luck, Rizzo was Hoyer pulling a fast one on the organization he had just left

Let's see who Ventura throws at tomorrow vs the Cubs

Ha. I guess Rizzo was luck, too? Getting Russell+ for a .500 pitcher was luck, too? Fowler/Montero/Coghlan? More luck, I guess.

 

Rizzo was just trading with an old business partner, there was plenty of "luck" involved with that. But they deserve full credit for the rest of their moves.

Rizzo wasn't luck, Rizzo was Hoyer pulling a fast one on the organization he had just left

 

 

Rizzo was just trading with an old business partner, there was plenty of "luck" involved with that. But they deserve full credit for the rest of their moves.

 

That's my point. No Theo, no Jed.

Rizzo aside, the White Sox were geniuses for Quintana, but the Cubs are geniuses for their whole roster. That team is brilliant and the rest of the organization is stacked.

Rizzo aside, the White Sox were geniuses for Quintana, but the Cubs are geniuses for their whole roster. That team is brilliant and the rest of the organization is stacked.

*checks username after reading post to confirm that it's AustinIllini*

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If the Sox were half as good at drafting and scouting positional talent as they were at drafting pitching, Robin would miraculously be manager of the year.

I know it's a bit early to think about, but say Arrieta has two more Cy Young caliber seasons in 2016 and 2017 and then hits free agency, where he'll be 32. What kind of contract does he get? Is there a team that would be willing to go 5 years/$150 million?

The White Sox are geniuses for acquiring Quintana but the Cubs are lucky they got Arrieta.

 

The white sox are lucky with Quintana. Just like they were lucky to get Rodon and lucky that Sale turned into Chris Sale.

when it comes to the Sox scouting and player development, they are more lucky that any of their drafted players turn into MLB caliber players.

This is Kenny Williams and Buddy Bell we are talking about.