Steve9347 Posted April 2, 2015 Share Posted April 2, 2015 Decidedly average, is the answer. But I can't really complain. Honestly, maybe I'm drinking the Kool-Aid, but I think the White Sox just make smarter business decisions than most teams. Chris Sale and Jose Abreu have two of the best contracts in baseball. http://deadspin.com/2015-payrolls-and-sala...dium=socialflow Team 2015 Payroll 1. Los Angeles Dodgers $272,789,040 2. New York Yankees $219,282,196 3. Boston Red Sox $187,407,202 4. Detroit Tigers $173,813,750 5. San Francisco Giants $172,672,111 6. Washington Nationals $164,920,505 7. Los Angeles Angels of Anaheim $150,933,083 8. Texas Rangers $142,140,873 9. Philadelphia Phillies $135,827,500 10. Toronto Blue Jays $122,506,600 11. St. Louis Cardinals $120,869,458 12. Seattle Mariners $119,798,060 13. Chicago Cubs $119,006,885 14. Cincinnati Reds $117,197,072 15. Chicago White Sox $115,238,678 16. Kansas City Royals $113,618,650 17. Baltimore Orioles $110,146,097 18. Minnesota Twins $108,945,000 19. Milwaukee Brewers $105,002,536 20. Colorado Rockies $102,006,130 21. New York Mets $101,409,244 22. San Diego Padres $100,675,896 23. Atlanta Braves $97,578,565 24. Arizona Diamondbacks $91,518,833 25. Pittsburgh Pirates $88,278,500 26. Cleveland Indians $86,091,175 27. Oakland A's $86,086,667 28. Tampa Bay Rays $76,061,707 29. Houston Astros $70,910,100 30. Miami Marlins $68,479,000 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Eminor3rd Posted April 2, 2015 Share Posted April 2, 2015 I hadn't realized how high the Royals have crept up. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
GoSox05 Posted April 2, 2015 Share Posted April 2, 2015 That Dodgers payroll is just ridiculous. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Kyyle23 Posted April 2, 2015 Share Posted April 2, 2015 It cannot be understated how much of an impact Hahn has had. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ptatc Posted April 2, 2015 Share Posted April 2, 2015 QUOTE (Steve9347 @ Apr 2, 2015 -> 08:04 AM) Decidedly average, is the answer. But I can't really complain. Honestly, maybe I'm drinking the Kool-Aid, but I think the White Sox just make smarter business decisions than most teams. Chris Sale and Jose Abreu have two of the best contracts in baseball. http://deadspin.com/2015-payrolls-and-sala...dium=socialflow Team 2015 Payroll 1. Los Angeles Dodgers $272,789,040 2. New York Yankees $219,282,196 3. Boston Red Sox $187,407,202 4. Detroit Tigers $173,813,750 5. San Francisco Giants $172,672,111 6. Washington Nationals $164,920,505 7. Los Angeles Angels of Anaheim $150,933,083 8. Texas Rangers $142,140,873 9. Philadelphia Phillies $135,827,500 10. Toronto Blue Jays $122,506,600 11. St. Louis Cardinals $120,869,458 12. Seattle Mariners $119,798,060 13. Chicago Cubs $119,006,885 14. Cincinnati Reds $117,197,072 15. Chicago White Sox $115,238,678 16. Kansas City Royals $113,618,650 17. Baltimore Orioles $110,146,097 18. Minnesota Twins $108,945,000 19. Milwaukee Brewers $105,002,536 20. Colorado Rockies $102,006,130 21. New York Mets $101,409,244 22. San Diego Padres $100,675,896 23. Atlanta Braves $97,578,565 24. Arizona Diamondbacks $91,518,833 25. Pittsburgh Pirates $88,278,500 26. Cleveland Indians $86,091,175 27. Oakland A's $86,086,667 28. Tampa Bay Rays $76,061,707 29. Houston Astros $70,910,100 30. Miami Marlins $68,479,000 The differential from top to bottom is awful. There can't really be a competitive balance without a salary cap. However, to make it fair there should be a floor as well. From the numbers above maybe 175 at the top and 90 at the bottom? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Eminor3rd Posted April 2, 2015 Share Posted April 2, 2015 QUOTE (GoSox05 @ Apr 2, 2015 -> 08:26 AM) That Dodgers payroll is just ridiculous. You only have to go down to #9 on the list to find a payroll that's less than half of the Dodgers. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
lasttriptotulsa Posted April 2, 2015 Share Posted April 2, 2015 For as poor as the Sox attendance is and for as mediocre of a tv deal as they have, I don't think any complaints about their payroll this year have any validity at all. The Sox are just under the MLB average of roughly $125 million, but that number is skewed a little high due to the obscene payroll of the Dodgers and the Yankees to a lesser extent. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
shysocks Posted April 2, 2015 Share Posted April 2, 2015 QUOTE (lasttriptotulsa @ Apr 2, 2015 -> 08:57 AM) For as poor as the Sox attendance is and for as mediocre of a tv deal as they have, I don't think any complaints about their payroll this year have any validity at all. The Sox are just under the MLB average of roughly $125 million, but that number is skewed a little high due to the obscene payroll of the Dodgers and the Yankees to a lesser extent. Truth. The Dodgers are a problem. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
LDF Posted April 2, 2015 Share Posted April 2, 2015 QUOTE (Steve9347 @ Apr 2, 2015 -> 01:04 PM) Decidedly average, is the answer. But I can't really complain. Honestly, maybe I'm drinking the Kool-Aid, but I think the White Sox just make smarter business decisions than most teams. Chris Sale and Jose Abreu have two of the best contracts in baseball. http://deadspin.com/2015-payrolls-and-sala...dium=socialflow Team 2015 Payroll 1. Los Angeles Dodgers $272,789,040 2. New York Yankees $219,282,196 3. Boston Red Sox $187,407,202 4. Detroit Tigers $173,813,750 13. Chicago Cubs $119,006,885 15. Chicago White Sox $115,238,678 jeeze..... Dodgers.... now i really hope they bomb in their playoff attempt. anything over $170 mil. just crazy. i am really surprise at the sox. i really thought they spent more.... nice find. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
caulfield12 Posted April 2, 2015 Share Posted April 2, 2015 QUOTE (shysocks @ Apr 2, 2015 -> 08:01 AM) Truth. The Dodgers are a problem. Not only that, but that media rights deal and its profitability (or lack thereof) are casting a shadow on all the forthcoming deals and tamping down their values a bit because of what has transpired out in LA, with so many homes shut completely out of Dodgers games now. In the long term, that's another version of SportsVision, albeit incredibly profitable short-term but costly to the franchise long-term. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
caulfield12 Posted April 2, 2015 Share Posted April 2, 2015 Besides Mauer, what the heck are the Twins spending all that money on??? Seems crazy their numbers are so high with a rebuilding franchise. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
shysocks Posted April 2, 2015 Share Posted April 2, 2015 QUOTE (caulfield12 @ Apr 2, 2015 -> 09:07 AM) Besides Mauer, what the heck are the Twins spending all that money on??? Seems crazy their numbers are so high with a rebuilding franchise. 25.5 M between Ricky Nolasco and Ervin Santana. 10.5 M on Toriiiiiiiiii. Be sure to thank God for Sale, Quintana, and Abreu's contracts every night before bed. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Dunt Posted April 2, 2015 Share Posted April 2, 2015 QUOTE (caulfield12 @ Apr 2, 2015 -> 09:07 AM) Besides Mauer, what the heck are the Twins spending all that money on??? Seems crazy their numbers are so high with a rebuilding franchise. First thing I asked when I saw this list haha Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Boopa1219 Posted April 2, 2015 Share Posted April 2, 2015 QUOTE (LDF @ Apr 2, 2015 -> 09:06 AM) jeeze..... Dodgers.... now i really hope they bomb in their playoff attempt. anything over $170 mil. just crazy. i am really surprise at the sox. i really thought they spent more.... nice find. Why? If you have the money, you should spend it and use that resource to your advantage. And the Dodgers are going to be great to watch with Friedman running the ship, since one of the reasons they hired him was to bring an more economic sensibility to the franchise. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
caulfield12 Posted April 2, 2015 Share Posted April 2, 2015 QUOTE (Joshua Strong @ Apr 2, 2015 -> 08:33 AM) Why? If you have the money, you should spend it and use that resource to your advantage. And the Dodgers are going to be great to watch with Friedman running the ship, since one of the reasons they hired him was to bring an more economic sensibility to the franchise. We'll see how sensible it is to pay 3 Cuban infielders about $25-30 million a year (combined) when only one can even play (at least this year). Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Quin Posted April 2, 2015 Share Posted April 2, 2015 QUOTE (shysocks @ Apr 2, 2015 -> 09:18 AM) 25.5 M between Ricky Nolasco and Ervin Santana. 10.5 M on Toriiiiiiiiii. Be sure to thank God for Sale, Quintana, and Abreu's contracts every night before bed. Don't forget Eaton now as well. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
LittleHurt05 Posted April 2, 2015 Share Posted April 2, 2015 22 teams have $100 million payrolls, wow. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Eminor3rd Posted April 2, 2015 Share Posted April 2, 2015 QUOTE (caulfield12 @ Apr 2, 2015 -> 08:07 AM) Besides Mauer, what the heck are the Twins spending all that money on??? Seems crazy their numbers are so high with a rebuilding franchise. A bunch of #4 starters. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
cabiness42 Posted April 2, 2015 Share Posted April 2, 2015 The differential from top to bottom is awful. There can't really be a competitive balance without a salary cap. However, to make it fair there should be a floor as well. From the numbers above maybe 175 at the top and 90 at the bottom? All you really need is for total revenue sharing of every team's local TV deals. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Balta1701 Posted April 2, 2015 Share Posted April 2, 2015 QUOTE (GoSox05 @ Apr 2, 2015 -> 09:26 AM) That Dodgers payroll is just ridiculous. The Dodgers are paying players about $40 million to not play for the Dodgers next year. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
southsider2k5 Posted April 2, 2015 Share Posted April 2, 2015 QUOTE (Balta1701 @ Apr 2, 2015 -> 11:09 AM) The Dodgers are paying players about $40 million to not play for the Dodgers next year. Which isn't much less than the Marlins and Astros are paying for their entire major league payroll. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
LDF Posted April 2, 2015 Share Posted April 2, 2015 QUOTE (Joshua Strong @ Apr 2, 2015 -> 02:33 PM) Why? If you have the money, you should spend it and use that resource to your advantage. And the Dodgers are going to be great to watch with Friedman running the ship, since one of the reasons they hired him was to bring an more economic sensibility to the franchise. i have no problem with that ...... well i lied. i do. but it is like the yanks of the 80's and 90's thinking that all they could do is spend the money to buy a ring. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
LDF Posted April 2, 2015 Share Posted April 2, 2015 QUOTE (Balta1701 @ Apr 2, 2015 -> 04:09 PM) The Dodgers are paying players about $40 million to not play for the Dodgers next year. yeah and i agree, how bout Philly... they been trying to do the same but can't find any takers. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Thad Bosley Posted April 3, 2015 Share Posted April 3, 2015 (edited) QUOTE (Steve9347 @ Apr 2, 2015 -> 08:04 AM) Decidedly average, is the answer. But I can't really complain. Honestly, maybe I'm drinking the Kool-Aid, but I think the White Sox just make smarter business decisions than most teams. Chris Sale and Jose Abreu have two of the best contracts in baseball. http://deadspin.com/2015-payrolls-and-sala...dium=socialflow Team 2015 Payroll 1. Los Angeles Dodgers $272,789,040 2. New York Yankees $219,282,196 3. Boston Red Sox $187,407,202 4. Detroit Tigers $173,813,750 5. San Francisco Giants $172,672,111 6. Washington Nationals $164,920,505 7. Los Angeles Angels of Anaheim $150,933,083 8. Texas Rangers $142,140,873 9. Philadelphia Phillies $135,827,500 10. Toronto Blue Jays $122,506,600 11. St. Louis Cardinals $120,869,458 12. Seattle Mariners $119,798,060 13. Chicago Cubs $119,006,885 14. Cincinnati Reds $117,197,072 15. Chicago White Sox $115,238,678 16. Kansas City Royals $113,618,650 17. Baltimore Orioles $110,146,097 18. Minnesota Twins $108,945,000 19. Milwaukee Brewers $105,002,536 20. Colorado Rockies $102,006,130 21. New York Mets $101,409,244 22. San Diego Padres $100,675,896 23. Atlanta Braves $97,578,565 24. Arizona Diamondbacks $91,518,833 25. Pittsburgh Pirates $88,278,500 26. Cleveland Indians $86,091,175 27. Oakland A's $86,086,667 28. Tampa Bay Rays $76,061,707 29. Houston Astros $70,910,100 30. Miami Marlins $68,479,000 "I think the White Sox just make smarter business decisions than most teams." Really? And how do you arrive at this conclusion? Based on the club's overall success? The Sox have one playoff appearance in the last DECADE since the WS in '05, and that appearance lasted all of one minute. And the 24 years prior to '05, this current Sox ownership saw their team reach the postseason a measly three times, combining for just three wins in those appearances. Real "smarter business decisions" contributing to that unheralded record, I must say. And as of today, this supposed record of "smarter business decisions" has this big market team almost dead last in the Majors in attendance and TV ratings as we speak. Not to mention, but a team payroll going into this season almost identical to that of the Kansas City Royals AND Minnesota Twins, and less than that of the Reds, Blue Jays, Mariners, AND former Montreal Expos, the Nationals. But god are we "smart", we managed to get Sale and Abreu to sign for under market. Whoopie...for the investors!! Not so much for we, the fans. Edited April 4, 2015 by Thad Bosley Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
LDF Posted April 3, 2015 Share Posted April 3, 2015 QUOTE (Thad Bosley @ Apr 4, 2015 -> 12:05 AM) "I think the White Sox just make smarter business decisions than most teams." Really? And how do you arrive at this conclusion? Based on the club's success? The Sox have one playoff appearance in the last DECADE since the WS in '05, and that appearance lasted all of one minute. And the 24 years prior to '05, this current Sox ownership saw their team reach the postseason a measly three times, combining for just three wins in those appearances. Real "smarter business decisions" contributing to that unheralded record, I must say. And as of today, this supposed record of "smarter business decisions" has this big market team almost dead last in attendance and TV ratings as we speak, and a team payroll going into this season almost identical to that of the Kansas City Royals AND Minnesota Twins, and less than that of the Reds, Blue Jays, Mariners, AND former Montreal Expos, the Nationals. But god are we "smart", we managed to get Sale and Abreu to sign for under market. Whoopie...for the investors!! i am very impress by this post. nice job. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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