Marcus Semien now has more errors (31) than RBIs (28)

Marcus Semien now has more errors (31) than RBIs (28)

 

Ooof.

Marcus Semien now has more errors (31) than RBIs (28)

 

For SS's with 100 or more PA's he ranks 26th in the fangraphs defensive ratings stat. There are only 27 qualified. He is 23rd in overall WAR

For SS's with 100 or more PA's he ranks 26th in the fangraphs defensive ratings stat. There are only 27 qualified. He is 23rd in overall WAR

Jeff Samardzija is 82nd out of 90 qualified pitchers in ERA.

Ok we get it, they both suck

Ok we get it, they both suck

It's a terrible-off!

Marcus Semien now has more errors (31) than RBIs (28)

 

i am coming late to the party, but let me ask this, does anyone really thought, Semien would be playing SS with the sox if the trade didn't go thru. he would have been holding down 2b and maybe later switch to 3b.

 

i really doubt he would have all those errors there.

While I agree with you, the Devil's Advocate reply is....are you ready to give Samardzija a ~$7 million raise from this year?

I see your point but I think that seven million is the cheapest way to get a solid 200 innings without further commitment. What are the chances Shark accepts that QO though. He's running out of years to land a megadeal.

I see your point but I think that seven million is the cheapest way to get a solid 200 innings without further commitment. What are the chances Shark accepts that QO though. He's running out of years to land a megadeal.

IMO, if you count Fulmer, the White Sox are back to having 6 starters who should/will be in the big leagues for most of next year even without Samardzija. Fulmer may not be ready for a whole season, but conveniently I won't mind replacing Danks with him. So that's the risk.

 

(Danks, of course, has a better ERA than Samardzija this year too. But him, we'll be able to replace)

I see your point but I think that seven million is the cheapest way to get a solid 200 innings without further commitment. What are the chances Shark accepts that QO though. He's running out of years to land a megadeal.

 

way to go, i never look at it that way..... but what is the whole value of a QO???

way to go, i never look at it that way..... but what is the whole value of a QO???

 

The QO value is that player will likely at least be in the Show and make some sort of contribution.

Jeff Samardzija is 82nd out of 90 qualified pitchers in ERA.

 

:eeyore

the only thing i found out is in 2015, the QO was 15.3 mil.

 

so i would say on a guess, 2016 should be starting at that same amount until the officials of the CBA officials makes the announcement.

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Here's what Shark deserves: 9 to 10 million a year for 4 years. I'd say 3 years but in this day and age four years.

Here's what he'll get: 17 to 24 million a year for 5-6 years. Good luck to the team that gives him that kind of dough.

IMO, if you count Fulmer, the White Sox are back to having 6 starters who should/will be in the big leagues for most of next year even without Samardzija. Fulmer may not be ready for a whole season, but conveniently I won't mind replacing Danks with him. So that's the risk.

 

(Danks, of course, has a better ERA than Samardzija this year too. But him, we'll be able to replace)

 

I see no reason to take it for granted that Fulmer would be ready next year.

I see no reason to take it for granted that Fulmer would be ready next year.

With Danks on the roster I don't think I did. However, I also see no reason why we should expect him to follow a path that different from Rodon.

 

Really for starting the season though if Samardzija is here then EJ isn't. That's who the initial tradeoff would be.

With Danks on the roster I don't think I did. However, I also see no reason why we should expect him to follow a path that different from Rodon.

 

Really for starting the season though if Samardzija is here then EJ isn't. That's who the initial tradeoff would be.

 

Oh no, what a terrible problem, let's kill ourselves.

Oh no, what a terrible problem, let's kill ourselves.

I can think of $16 million or so reasons why it's a potential problem.

Here's what Shark deserves: 9 to 10 million a year for 4 years. I'd say 3 years but in this day and age four years.

Here's what he'll get: 17 to 24 million a year for 5-6 years. Good luck to the team that gives him that kind of dough.

 

Given the relative glut of top-end pitchers available next year, and the fact that Samardzija is pitching like a 3/4 starter, I'd be shocked if he gets more than James Shields money at this point.

 

That said, I don't want the Sox to give it to him anymore than I wanted the Sox to give it to James Shields last year.

I can think of $16 million or so reasons why it's a potential problem.

 

For what? Why? Your whole stance is that they incorrectly accelerated a rebuild, and you are worried about an extra $7 million we are hamstrung by for one year? Your question is are we nervous about Shark accepting, but no, I would have no reservations about delivering a qualifying offer if the worst case scenario is getting a 200IP pitcher for 1 year, 17 million. I would be shocked if he didn't outperform this year, but even if he did, it has very little ramifications longterm with the exception of possibly/maybe creating a temporary surplus of pitching depth.

 

If that's the worst case scenario, that is certainly worth extending with the hope fo getting a comp pick.

For what? Why? Your whole stance is that they incorrectly accelerated a rebuild, and you are worried about an extra $7 million we are hamstrung by for one year? Your question is are we nervous about Shark accepting, but no, I would have no reservations about delivering a qualifying offer if the worst case scenario is getting a 200IP pitcher for 1 year, 17 million. I would be shocked if he didn't outperform this year, but even if he did, it has very little ramifications longterm with the exception of possibly/maybe creating a temporary surplus of pitching depth.

 

If that's the worst case scenario, that is certainly worth extending with the hope fo getting a comp pick.

 

It's unquestionable that we should give him the QO. If he accepts, fine. It's a one-year overpay, and we can trade him to get some of that back at the deadline.

 

It would be no different than signing some bounce-back Jason Hammel pitcher and trying to trade him at the deadline.

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For what? Why? Your whole stance is that they incorrectly accelerated a rebuild, and you are worried about an extra $7 million we are hamstrung by for one year? Your question is are we nervous about Shark accepting, but no, I would have no reservations about delivering a qualifying offer if the worst case scenario is getting a 200IP pitcher for 1 year, 17 million. I would be shocked if he didn't outperform this year, but even if he did, it has very little ramifications longterm with the exception of possibly/maybe creating a temporary surplus of pitching depth.

 

If that's the worst case scenario, that is certainly worth extending with the hope fo getting a comp pick.

At some point we are going to need to develop some of these pitchers into big leaguers. That's the last I'll say on the subject.

There's really no risk of having the QO accepted. The window to accept or reject is only a week, and there's no way he will know enough about his market value within that week to risk accepting the offer.

Balta's just trying to rub the samardjiza trade in everyones face by implying that even the QO offer process will be a disaster. It is the last thing I'm worried about.

Balta's just trying to rub the samardjiza trade in everyones face by implying that even the QO offer process will be a disaster. It is the last thing I'm worried about.

If his August performance continues for a couple more weeks I could certainly see it becoming possible that they won't offer or he'll reject.

 

I genuinely do think there's a solid chance he winds up unsigned until the QO compensation expires already.