Jon Heyman ‏@JonHeymanCBS 1m1 minute ago

Reds have made everyone available, including todd frazier

 

We all knew this, but there isn't a thread on it. Would still love to see him in a Sox uni.

Somehow I hope Hahn pulls a trade off for Frazier.

well looking at the reds team and not their minor league, i only see Todd Frazier that would be enticing.

Frazier, Phillips and Bruce are all available.

Any concern that Frazier had a second half decline after his all-start first half?

Without knowing the price, it's hard to know what to think. I'd like him at third, I don't want to deplete our little farm yet with so far to go in rebuild.

Any concern that Frazier had a second half decline after his all-start first half?

 

Wondering if the homerun derby affected him a bit

Would love Frazier on the Sox

Any concern that Frazier had a second half decline after his all-start first half?

 

This has been brought up so many times. The answer is no.

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Stay far away from 2 year rents with .660 2nd half OPS'.

Will do nothing but set the Sox back.

Enough damage was done last year with clowning like this.

Edited December 7, 201510 yr by GreenSox

Frazier is the only one of those guys I'd want, Philips and Bruce are garbage. I think there's a trade to be made but the Sox won't get him for B and C level prospects. You're probably looking at a deal that involves Anderson or Fulmer. Most likely Fulmer.

Stay far away from 2 year rents with .660 2nd half OPS'.

Will do nothing but set the Sox back.

Enough damage was done last year with clowning like this.

 

 

Is there anybody that you would actually want? I bet if Mike Trout hit the market you would find some way to talk yourself into thinking he isnt good enough.

Stay far away from 2 year rents with .660 2nd half OPS'.

Will do nothing but set the Sox back.

Enough damage was done last year with clowning like this.

 

The second half ops is still higher then the sox total production at 3rd. He hit a .922 on the first half.

I want nothing to do with Frazier. Absolutely nothing.

Frazier is the only one of those guys I'd want, Philips and Bruce are garbage. I think there's a trade to be made but the Sox won't get him for B and C level prospects. You're probably looking at a deal that involves Anderson or Fulmer. Most likely Fulmer.

 

Can't trade Fulmer.

 

Not that I believe they would even consider it.

How about actually rebuilding? What good does Frazier do? Keep these prospects and build that way. Every year the same discussion is brought up. Frazier doesn't make the Sox a playoff team in 2016. Signing a 3B over 30 who had a rough 2nd half combined with the fact that their best prospect- Fulmer- would have to be involved is a horrible idea.

Edited December 7, 201510 yr by soxfan49

I'd definitely trade for Frazier but Anderson and Fullmer are without a doubt off the table. Montas, Micah, Avi? If it took 1 more piece I might throw in 1 of Engle/May or Guerrero but that's about as far as I'd go. Not sure if that would be enough, but if it's not I'd look else where. He's a nice piece, but he alone it's turning us into a playoff team.

How about actually rebuilding? What good does Frazier do? Keep these prospects and build that way. Every year the same discussion is brought up. Frazier doesn't make the Sox a playoff team in 2016. Signing a 3B over 30 who had a rough 2nd half combined with the fact that their best prospect- Fulmer- would have to be involved is a horrible idea.

 

 

Where is the evidence that Fulmer would have to be involved? Frazier doesnt make the Sox a contender by himself but his 3.4 oWar and 4.6 last year is a really good start to putting them in that race. I highly doubt that the White Sox will fill 3rd base and then stop trying to upgrade at all other positions.

Edited December 7, 201510 yr by Baron

Guys Fulmer can't be traded so don't worry.

How about actually rebuilding? What good does Frazier do? Keep these prospects and build that way. Every year the same discussion is brought up. Frazier doesn't make the Sox a playoff team in 2016. Signing a 3B over 30 who had a rough 2nd half combined with the fact that their best prospect- Fulmer- would have to be involved is a horrible idea.

 

So how do you expect the Sox to get the position players they need for future in catcher, 3rd baseman, among others. Sox can't draft and really develop position players. Only real development they do is pitchers which is a huge wanted commodity. So Sox trade pitching to get the position players they don't have. Definitely wouldn't be trading fulmer even though right now can't be traded

Edited December 7, 201510 yr by WhiteSoxLifer

Is there anybody that you would actually want? I bet if Mike Trout hit the market you would find some way to talk yourself into thinking he isnt good enough.

Lol nope. He probably wants us to stay pat

I'm not sure myself so throwing it out there: If we were to trade for Frazier (not involving fullmer/anderson) and then sign 2 marginally priced free agents would we be legit contenders for at least a wild card spot? Say Gerrardo Parra and Asdrubal Cabrerra.

 

C- Avila/Navarro

1b- Abreu

2b- Cabrerra

3b- Frazier

ss- Saladino/sanchez

lf- Melky

cf- Eaton

rf- Parra/Thompson

dh- Laroche/Thompson

 

Same rotation with EJ

I'm not sure myself so throwing it out there: If we were to trade for Frazier (not involving fullmer/anderson) and then sign 2 marginally priced free agents would we be legit contenders for at least a wild card spot? Say Gerrardo Parra and Asdrubal Cabrerra.

 

C- Avila/Navarro

1b- Abreu

2b- Cabrerra

3b- Frazier

ss- Saladino/sanchez

lf- Melky

cf- Eaton

rf- Parra/Thompson

dh- Laroche/Thompson

 

Same rotation with EJ

 

How does Thompson platoon with 2 guys in this scenario? Neither Parra not LaRoche should play against lefties.

 

How does Thompson platoon with 2 guys in this scenario? Neither Parra not LaRoche should play against lefties.

I'm assuming that Thompson would play against the lefties and Parra/LaRoche would play against the righties.

 

Correct me if I'm wrong.