December 14, 201510 yr QUOTE (NorthSideSox72 @ Dec 14, 2015 -> 01:51 PM) Quiet you. Sorry. Sigh, I'll go get my dunce cap...
December 14, 201510 yr QUOTE (southsider2k5 @ Dec 14, 2015 -> 03:01 PM) Speaking of Andy Wilkins... MLB Trade Rumors @mlbtraderumors 1m1 minute ago Rangers Claim Andy Wilkins From Mariners http://www.mlbtraderumors.com/2015/12/rang...s-mariners.html … He's in the running for the most claimed player ever.
December 14, 201510 yr You all know how much I want a bonafide run producer at DH, to replace La Roche. However, if Abreu gets injured, who would play first base?
December 14, 201510 yr QUOTE (Lillian @ Dec 14, 2015 -> 03:12 PM) You all know how much I want a bonafide run producer at DH, to replace La Roche. However, if Abreu gets injured, who would play first base? LaRoche!
December 14, 201510 yr QUOTE (NorthSideSox72 @ Dec 14, 2015 -> 03:11 PM) He's in the running for the most claimed player ever. Andy "the door knob" Wilkins!
December 14, 201510 yr Andy Wilkins transactions in 2015 alone: March 29: Claimed by TOR off waivers from CHW May 3: Traded from TOR to LAD for cash Sept 6: Claimed by BAL off waivers from LAD Dec 2: Claimed by SEA off waivers from BAL Dec 9: Claimed by MIL off waivers from SEA Dec 12: Claimed by TEX off waivers from MIL On the one hand, lots of teams at least feel like he's a decent AAAA/emergency 1B guy. On the other hand...
December 14, 201510 yr Author QUOTE (Lillian @ Dec 14, 2015 -> 09:12 PM) You all know how much I want a bonafide run producer at DH, to replace La Roche. However, if Abreu gets injured, who would play first base? Mike Olt played some 1st base last season
December 14, 201510 yr QUOTE (glangon @ Dec 14, 2015 -> 04:27 PM) Mike Olt played some 1st base last season And your point is...?
December 14, 201510 yr QUOTE (glangon @ Dec 14, 2015 -> 03:27 PM) Mike Olt played some 1st base last season I keep forgetting he's there. Probably by choice. I just don't think he's around come April.
December 23, 201510 yr John Jaso signs with Pirates....unless Baltimore/Milwaukee gets desperate, it looks like LaRoche is staying here
December 23, 201510 yr "4:03pm: FOX’s Ken Rosenthal reports that Jaso will be guaranteed a total of $8MM over the life of the deal (Twitter link). Joel Sherman of the New York Post tweets that Jaso will earn $4MM in each season of the contract." Smart move by the Pirates. As for LaRoche. I think what happens is he spends ST fighting for the DH spot and if he loses he will be used in a bench role. It is what it is.
December 23, 201510 yr Although Hahn has shopped La Roche I still think he values the guy waaaaaay more than people on soxtalk values him. Maybe to a fault but I think Hahn probably thinks there is still some value in a left handed power hitting veteran either for this current team or with what the return he expects for sending LaRoche to another team.
December 23, 201510 yr QUOTE (NorthSideSox72 @ Dec 14, 2015 -> 04:18 PM) I keep forgetting he's there. Probably by choice. I just don't think he's around come April. If Olt is a member of the White Sox come April, something has gone drastically wrong.
December 23, 201510 yr QUOTE (shipps @ Dec 23, 2015 -> 04:36 PM) Although Hahn has shopped La Roche I still think he values the guy waaaaaay more than people on soxtalk values him. Maybe to a fault but I think Hahn probably thinks there is still some value in a left handed power hitting veteran either for this current team or with what the return he expects for sending LaRoche to another team. He was willing to give him away to the Pirates while paying more than 60% of his contract.
December 23, 201510 yr QUOTE (shipps @ Dec 23, 2015 -> 04:36 PM) Although Hahn has shopped La Roche I still think he values the guy waaaaaay more than people on soxtalk values him. Maybe to a fault but I think Hahn probably thinks there is still some value in a left handed power hitting veteran either for this current team or with what the return he expects for sending LaRoche to another team. Hahn can't just pull the cord on Laroche and completely admit that he has next to zero value, he is still trying to move him. The dichotomy of it all, trying to keep Laroche relevant and on other team's radar so you can somehow trade him, while not publically admitting that he doesn't have much value...that's the definition of a tough sell.
December 23, 201510 yr QUOTE (OmarComing25 @ Dec 23, 2015 -> 04:43 PM) He was willing to give him away to the Pirates while paying more than 60% of his contract. We know this as fact?
December 23, 201510 yr QUOTE (OmarComing25 @ Dec 23, 2015 -> 04:43 PM) He was willing to give him away to the Pirates while paying more than 60% of his contract. Hahn was basically trying to sell Laroche as a $5 million dollar player, it was a starting point. I still think the Sox might be better off eating up to 10 million of his salary just to open up a roster/lineup spot. If he doesn't bounce back, you've burned 13 million and wasted a roster spot.
December 23, 201510 yr QUOTE (blackmooncreeping @ Dec 23, 2015 -> 04:49 PM) Hahn was basically trying to sell Laroche as a $5 million dollar player, it was a starting point. I still think the Sox might be better off eating up to 10 million of his salary just to open up a roster/lineup spot. If he doesn't bounce back, you've burned 13 million and wasted a roster spot. He has a track record of being pretty good. There was an injury last year, and an adjustment to a new role. He was awful, but there is reason to believe he can be productive again.he does pretty well during even years. Edited December 23, 201510 yr by Dick Allen
December 23, 201510 yr QUOTE (shipps @ Dec 23, 2015 -> 04:36 PM) Although Hahn has shopped La Roche I still think he values the guy waaaaaay more than people on soxtalk values him. Maybe to a fault but I think Hahn probably thinks there is still some value in a left handed power hitting veteran either for this current team or with what the return he expects for sending LaRoche to another team. Hahn did offer 8M/LaRoche to the Pirates and they said no. I think Hahn realizes LaRoche has no value, its the media that took off with it because trading LaRoche is the most obvious move but the media failed to realize its also the most difficult if not impossible move. I mean seriously, look at LaRoche's numbers/salary and the " Hahn is shopping LaRoche" line the media ran with. Hahn isn't "shopping LaRoche", Hahn is looking for a dumpster team to drop Sox hot garbage on to. There never was a market for a 36 year old power hitter that's set to make 13M and only hit 12 HR last season. I would like to be wrong on this but it does not seem there are GM's dumb enough to trade for LaRoche. All we can do is hope he can somewhat bounce back a bit in whatever role the Sox put him in.
December 23, 201510 yr QUOTE (shipps @ Dec 23, 2015 -> 04:49 PM) We know this as fact? http://www.timesonline.com/sports/pirates/...aign=user-share
December 23, 201510 yr QUOTE (OmarComing25 @ Dec 23, 2015 -> 05:06 PM) http://www.timesonline.com/sports/pirates/...aign=user-share I am not going to sign up for that to read the article but I will take your word for it. I still don't think we really would know the details to proposed deals that fall through but whatever. If I was Hahn I would convince myself that he has value. LOL Makes it easier to keep a straight face while trying to do deals.
December 23, 201510 yr QUOTE (fathom @ Dec 23, 2015 -> 10:59 PM) John Jaso signs with Pirates....unless Baltimore/Milwaukee gets desperate, it looks like LaRoche is staying here i have been wondering of Balt.
December 23, 201510 yr For what the White Sox would have to pay for someone to take LaRoche, it makes no sense to unload him. The savings would be minimal. If he shows he is still the same as last season in spring training or April or May, release him then. until that time, they might as well see where he is at.
December 24, 201510 yr QUOTE (Dick Allen @ Dec 24, 2015 -> 12:46 AM) For what the White Sox would have to pay for someone to take LaRoche, it makes no sense to unload him. The savings would be minimal. If he shows he is still the same as last season in spring training or April or May, release him then. until that time, they might as well see where he is at. i don't know what is a savings would be with these org when they are talking about millions of dollars being saved. yeah, i was talking about laroche to the pirates along with 3-5 mil and a prospect pitcher to sweeten the pot. no matter what, laroche can play good defense at 1b and it will save the pirates from rushing their 1b prospects.
December 24, 201510 yr QUOTE (LDF @ Dec 23, 2015 -> 06:00 PM) i don't know what is a savings would be with these org when they are talking about millions of dollars being saved. yeah, i was talking about laroche to the pirates along with 3-5 mil and a prospect pitcher to sweeten the pot. no matter what, laroche can play good defense at 1b and it will save the pirates from rushing their 1b prospects. The Pirates signed John Jaso today which confirms their lack of interest in LaRoche.
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