December 9, 201510 yr Isn't Zobrist really the first quality bat to be signed? How many quality major league bats have been traded? Inciarte? Castro? Neither are guys who really fix the offense. The hitting market, which is the market the Sox should be in hasn't even really heated up. Relax people.
December 9, 201510 yr QUOTE (scs787 @ Dec 8, 2015 -> 10:54 PM) Isn't Zobrist really the first quality bat to be signed? How many quality major league bats have been traded? Inciarte? Castro? Neither are guys who really fix the offense. The hitting market, which is the market the Sox should be in hasn't even really heated up. Relax people. Well Inciarte last year was a 5.3 war player making 500K....He may not "fix" an offense by himself. But 2.0 offensive WAR and 2.6 defensive war certainly helps any team.
December 9, 201510 yr QUOTE (Baron @ Dec 9, 2015 -> 12:59 AM) Well Inciarte last year was a 5.3 war player making 500K....He may not "fix" an offense by himself. But 2.0 offensive WAR and 2.6 defensive war certainly helps any team. He'd help, but he's not the impact guy I would be trading Q for. I don't care much for projections, but he's projected at 1.6 WAR next year. Blair and Swanson made that AZ/ATL trade to me.
December 9, 201510 yr QUOTE (SouthSideSale @ Dec 8, 2015 -> 11:36 PM) Ha and you said I was on crack for my sale proposal...JFC lose two SPs and gain 3 OFs. What we do then to fill out the staff? What we do with Eaton Avi and Trayce? You don't lose Q, Fullmer or Sale. You still have your draft picks to draft more pitchers - the one thing you're good at as an organization. Flip any combo of Eaton, Avi, Trayce, or any of the new OFs to fill out your infield.
December 9, 201510 yr QUOTE (BigHurt3515 @ Dec 8, 2015 -> 11:33 PM) boring two days for White Sox fans Yep.
December 9, 201510 yr QUOTE (scs787 @ Dec 8, 2015 -> 11:06 PM) He'd help, but he's not the impact guy I would be trading Q for. I don't care much for projections, but he's projected at 1.6 WAR next year. Blair and Swanson made that AZ/ATL trade to me. That's because Fangraphs slashed his offensive projections down to basically nothing. All of those guys made the trade. His value to the team last year was definition of "impact".
December 9, 201510 yr QUOTE (Alexeihyeess @ Dec 8, 2015 -> 11:37 PM) Well last year's excitement translated to..... 3 more wins. But having basically the same team isn't going to do anything either. I know not everything needs to happen at the Winter Meetings so in reality it isn't a big deal if we don't make a move in the next day or so
December 9, 201510 yr QUOTE (spiderman @ Dec 8, 2015 -> 08:40 PM) I'm probably one of the few, but I'm not opposed to the White Sox staying quiet(er) in free agency. My #1 focus continues to be rebuilding the minor league system and rebuilding it back. Having 3 draft picks in the first 50 or so picks is a good start, but they need to keep these picks and not be tempted on a free agent. Completely agree, they need to make that their top priority. This draft could be huge for the system and along with J2 and the trade deadline, the system could be infused with some major talent.
December 9, 201510 yr Author Have been told White Sox checked in on numerous impact third base and outfield trade options. Return starts with Anderson and even Quintana https://twitter.com/scottmerkin/status/674626089172508672
December 9, 201510 yr QUOTE (WhiteSoxLifer @ Dec 9, 2015 -> 10:31 AM) Have been told White Sox checked in on numerous impact third base and outfield trade options. Return starts with Anderson and even Quintana https://twitter.com/scottmerkin/status/674626089172508672 Not surprised. I would imagine those names are Carlos Gonzalez and Todd Frazier
December 9, 201510 yr QUOTE (Y2JImmy0 @ Dec 9, 2015 -> 10:32 AM) Not surprised. I would imagine those names are Carlos Gonzalez and Todd Frazier Probably, but if the Reds and Rockies are expecting to get a Quintana type return for Cargo or Frazier then Cargo and Frazier are staying with their respective teams.
December 9, 201510 yr QUOTE (Y2JImmy0 @ Dec 9, 2015 -> 05:32 PM) Not surprised. I would imagine those names are Carlos Gonzalez and Todd Frazier Arenado
December 9, 201510 yr Author QUOTE (Y2JImmy0 @ Dec 9, 2015 -> 10:32 AM) Not surprised. I would imagine those names are Carlos Gonzalez and Todd Frazier I was kinda thinking Q for Carlos Gonzalez, Ryan McMahon + and cash. Would give the Sox a slugger now and future 3rd baseman with star potential. I would still think more should come back
December 9, 201510 yr QUOTE (WhiteSoxLifer @ Dec 9, 2015 -> 10:40 AM) I was kinda thinking Q for Carlos Gonzalez, Ryan McMahon + and cash. Would give the Sox a slugger now and future 3rd baseman with star potential. I would still think more should come back That would be bad.
December 9, 201510 yr Scott Merkin @scottmerkin 29s30 seconds ago Virginia, USA Let me clarify from before: White Sox aren't trading Anderson or Quintana
December 9, 201510 yr Author QUOTE (ChiSox59 @ Dec 9, 2015 -> 10:45 AM) That would be bad. Q sitting on a team that can't score runs and win is bad.
December 9, 201510 yr QUOTE (southside hitman @ Dec 9, 2015 -> 10:46 AM) Scott Merkin @scottmerkin 29s30 seconds ago Virginia, USA Let me clarify from before: White Sox aren't trading Anderson or Quintana I know majority doesn't want to trade Q but we really have to trade from our depth in order to improve our position players. We just saw ATL fleece a desperate team, I hope we are atleast calling and listening to what teams would give for Q. I still don't know if this team completely knows or agrees with each other internally about what direction this teaM should be going in next year and the next.
December 9, 201510 yr QUOTE (Frank_Thomas35 @ Dec 9, 2015 -> 10:53 AM) I know majority doesn't want to trade Q but we really have to trade from our depth in order to improve our position players. We just saw ATL fleece a desperate team, I hope we are atleast calling and listening to what teams would give for Q. I still don't know if this team completely knows or agrees with each other internally about what direction this teaM should be going in next year and the next. Seriously the only other option is to gut the minor league system again to get better. The worst possible thing they could do here is stand pat or marginally upgrade 3B or another position. That doesn't put you in a better situation to win much more than last year. After seeing what Atlanta got for Miller who's performance is comparable to Quintana I would hope they're getting feelers on him. It is nearly impossible to improve on last year's team without gutting the minors or trading a starter. Edited December 9, 201510 yr by Sockin
December 9, 201510 yr QUOTE (Sockin @ Dec 9, 2015 -> 11:00 AM) Seriously the only other option is to gut the minor league system again to get better. The worst possible thing they could do here is stand pat or marginally upgrade 3B or another position. That doesn't put you in a better situation to win much more than last year. After seeing what Atlanta got for Miller who's performance is comparable to Quintana I would hope they're getting feelers on him. It is nearly impossible to improve on last year's team without gutting the minors or trading a starter. I hear ya and agree.
December 9, 201510 yr QUOTE (Sockin @ Dec 9, 2015 -> 11:00 AM) Seriously the only other option is to gut the minor league system again to get better. The worst possible thing they could do here is stand pat or marginally upgrade 3B or another position. That doesn't put you in a better situation to win much more than last year. After seeing what Atlanta got for Miller who's performance is comparable to Quintana I would hope they're getting feelers on him. It is nearly impossible to improve on last year's team without gutting the minors or trading a starter. Quintana >>> Miller
December 9, 201510 yr QUOTE (southside hitman @ Dec 9, 2015 -> 04:46 PM) Scott Merkin @scottmerkin 29s30 seconds ago Virginia, USA Let me clarify from before: White Sox aren't trading Anderson or Quintana This is good news. I see an Adam Laroche as trade bait to a NL team and there might be interest, but the potential for a rebound in 2016 is there for sure. I think we can agree that the transition to DH by a NL slugger is not an easy one. I would have liked to have seen more Laroche at 1B and Abreu at DH. Laroche is a gold glove IBman, but I do think Abreu is less of a liability now. I can see Garcia and Melky Cabrera as trade possibilities as well as some relief pitchers.
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