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Cespedes Re-signs with the Mets

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QUOTE (OmarComing25 @ Jan 19, 2016 -> 03:46 AM)
Well this board sounds like it's going to be a fun place this year.

And you really thought there wouldn't be a meltdown

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QUOTE (OmarComing25 @ Jan 18, 2016 -> 08:46 PM)
Well this board sounds like it's going to be a fun place this year.

 

There will be more people on the board than at the games.

 

QUOTE (fathom @ Jan 18, 2016 -> 08:49 PM)
And you really thought there wouldn't be a meltdown

I'll admit it, that was naïve.

QUOTE (Thad Bosley @ Jan 18, 2016 -> 08:33 PM)
No one is expecting them to spend "a lot", just some. As in on this one contract to a top tier talent to address a glaring weakness on the ball club. This team is now one of only three teams in baseball to never offer a contract greater than $70M. They can swing it, and they should; that is, if they are serious about winning and taking advantage of the window of opportunity they bring up all of the time as it relates to the prime years of the team's core.

You mean like they did when they signed Joey Belle to the richest contract at that time. I believe it was 5/55. It worked out well.

The light at the end of the tunnel is an on-coming train.

No faith on this board sheesh. I feel like I'm the only confident one

QUOTE (Al Lopez's Ghost @ Jan 18, 2016 -> 08:56 PM)
The light at the end of the tunnel is an on-coming train.

 

Things aren't all that bad. I think I'll draft Upton for my fantasy baseball teams!

 

QUOTE (Saufley @ Jan 19, 2016 -> 02:49 AM)
There will be more people on the board than at the games.

 

 

QUOTE (OmarComing25 @ Jan 19, 2016 -> 02:49 AM)
I'll admit it, that was naïve.

On the bright side at least Q won't have to face Cespedes 6 games a year

QUOTE (ptatc @ Jan 18, 2016 -> 08:56 PM)
You mean like they did when they signed Joey Belle to the richest contract at that time. I believe it was 5/55. It worked out well.

Are you really using an example from 19 years ago? And while Albert underperformed in his first season, he put up 9 WAR over his two seasons with us. Not exactly the disaster you are painting.

QUOTE (fathom @ Jan 18, 2016 -> 10:01 PM)
On the bright side at least Q won't have to face Cespedes 6 games a year

 

Cespedes agent is meeting w Indians tonight.............................................................................................

........................just kidding.

 

QUOTE (Chicago White Sox @ Jan 18, 2016 -> 09:02 PM)
Are you really using an example from 19 years ago? And while Albert underperformed in his first season, he put up 9 WAR over his two seasons with us. Not exactly the disaster you are painting.

I never said he didn't play well. Im just using itas an example of big contracts aren't always the way to go. Even on the few that that white sox have handed out. While he played well it didnt get them anywhere. Would Jaime Navarro be a better example. I would not hand out a contract like the one the tigers offered.

Edited by ptatc

So now the Sox HAVE to sign Cespedes. The optics otherwise will be a public relations disaster for this team, and an abject organizational embarrassment. No team during the past five, six weeks has been tied into being "in" on not one, not two, but all three of the so-called "top tier" free agent outfielders more so than the White Sox. We were "interested" in Gordon. We were "in" on Upton. We were "considering" Cespedes.

 

Then the leak. The leak that we were only interested in making an offer to any of the three of them for "three years or LESS". Enter the small market intra-divisional Royals, who move in and lock up Gordon on a four year contract. Tonight, another AL Central rival, the Tigers, sign Upton to a six year deal. And this on the heals of our intra-city rival Cubs signing Heyward to an eight year contract. Welcome to market economics!

 

If another team swoops in now and snags Cespedes on something resembling more what the market is bearing vs. this three year offer business the Sox are operating under, then it will be a colossal failure of Hahn, Williams, and Reinsdorf. It will call into question their credibility when they claim over and over and over again their strong desire to return to the postseason as quickly as possible, and thereby maximize the window of opportunity with the current core. I trust they realize this, and will soon be announcing the signing of Yoenis Cespedes to be our left fielder and clean-up hitter for the foreseeable future. If not, well, it'll be quite the black eye on this management team's reputation, and will seriously call into question the capabilities of the team's ownership and management.

Edited by Thad Bosley

QUOTE (Thad Bosley @ Jan 19, 2016 -> 03:32 AM)
So now the Sox HAVE to sign Cespedes. The optics otherwise will be a public relations disaster for this team, and an abject organizational embarrassment. No team during the past five, six weeks has been tied into being "in" on not one, not two, but all three of the so-called "top tier" free agent outfielders more than the White Sox. We were "interested" in Gordon. We were "in" on Upton. We were "considering" Cespedes.

 

Then the leak. The leak that we were only interested in making an offer to any of the three of them for "three years or LESS". Enter the small market intra-divisional Royals, who move in and lock up Gordon on a four year contract. Tonight, another AL Central rival, the Tigers, sign Upton to a six year deal. And this on the heals of our intra-city rival Cubs signing Heyward to an eight year contract. Welcome to market economics!

 

If another team swoops in now and snags Cespedes on something resembling more what the market is bearing vs. this three year offer business the Sox are operating under, then it will be a colossal failure of Hahn, Williams, and Reinsdorf. It will call into question their credibility when they claim over and over and over again their strong desire to return to the postseason as quickly as possible, and thereby maximize the window of opportunity with the current core. I trust they realize this, and will soon be announcing the signing of Yoenis Cespedes to be our left fielder and clean-up hitter for the foreseeable future. If not, well, it'll be quite the black eye on this management team's reputation, and will seriously call into question the capabilities of the team's ownership and management.

 

I am not a big fan of Cespedes, but I do agree they will look awful in the eyes of their fans if Cespedes goes elsewhere.

QUOTE (Thad Bosley @ Jan 18, 2016 -> 09:32 PM)
So now the Sox HAVE to sign Cespedes. The optics otherwise will be a public relations disaster for this team, and an abject organizational embarrassment. No team during the past five, six weeks has been tied into being "in" on not one, not two, but all three of the so-called "top tier" free agent outfielders more so than the White Sox. We were "interested" in Gordon. We were "in" on Upton. We were "considering" Cespedes.

 

Then the leak. The leak that we were only interested in making an offer to any of the three of them for "three years or LESS". Enter the small market intra-divisional Royals, who move in and lock up Gordon on a four year contract. Tonight, another AL Central rival, the Tigers, sign Upton to a six year deal. And this on the heals of our intra-city rival Cubs signing Heyward to an eight year contract. Welcome to market economics!

 

If another team swoops in now and snags Cespedes on something resembling more what the market is bearing vs. this three year offer business the Sox are operating under, then it will be a colossal failure of Hahn, Williams, and Reinsdorf. It will call into question their credibility when they claim over and over and over again their strong desire to return to the postseason as quickly as possible, and thereby maximize the window of opportunity with the current core. I trust they realize this, and will soon be announcing the signing of Yoenis Cespedes to be our left fielder and clean-up hitter for the foreseeable future. If not, well, it'll be quite the black eye on this management team's reputation, and will seriously call into question the capabilities of the team's ownership and management.

At this point, 1 playoff appearance since '05, they will have to sign Cespedes to make me NOT think that...

QUOTE (Thad Bosley @ Jan 18, 2016 -> 09:32 PM)
So now the Sox HAVE to sign Cespedes. The optics otherwise will be a public relations disaster for this team, and an abject organizational embarrassment. No team during the past five, six weeks has been tied into being "in" on not one, not two, but all three of the so-called "top tier" free agent outfielders more so than the White Sox. We were "interested" in Gordon. We were "in" on Upton. We were "considering" Cespedes.

 

Then the leak. The leak that we were only interested in making an offer to any of the three of them for "three years or LESS". Enter the small market intra-divisional Royals, who move in and lock up Gordon on a four year contract. Tonight, another AL Central rival, the Tigers, sign Upton to a six year deal. And this on the heals of our intra-city rival Cubs signing Heyward to an eight year contract. Welcome to market economics!

 

If another team swoops in now and snags Cespedes on something resembling more what the market is bearing vs. this three year offer business the Sox are operating under, then it will be a colossal failure of Hahn, Williams, and Reinsdorf. It will call into question their credibility when they claim over and over and over again their strong desire to return to the postseason as quickly as possible, and thereby maximize the window of opportunity with the current core. I trust they realize this, and will soon be announcing the signing of Yoenis Cespedes to be our left fielder and clean-up hitter for the foreseeable future. If not, well, it'll be quite the black eye on this management team's reputation, and will seriously call into question the capabilities of the team's ownership and management.

So well put.

QUOTE (Thad Bosley @ Jan 18, 2016 -> 09:32 PM)
So now the Sox HAVE to sign Cespedes. The optics otherwise will be a public relations disaster for this team, and an abject organizational embarrassment. No team during the past five, six weeks has been tied into being "in" on not one, not two, but all three of the so-called "top tier" free agent outfielders more so than the White Sox. We were "interested" in Gordon. We were "in" on Upton. We were "considering" Cespedes.

 

Then the leak. The leak that we were only interested in making an offer to any of the three of them for "three years or LESS". Enter the small market intra-divisional Royals, who move in and lock up Gordon on a four year contract. Tonight, another AL Central rival, the Tigers, sign Upton to a six year deal. And this on the heals of our intra-city rival Cubs signing Heyward to an eight year contract. Welcome to market economics!

 

If another team swoops in now and snags Cespedes on something resembling more what the market is bearing vs. this three year offer business the Sox are operating under, then it will be a colossal failure of Hahn, Williams, and Reinsdorf. It will call into question their credibility when they claim over and over and over again their strong desire to return to the postseason as quickly as possible, and thereby maximize the window of opportunity with the current core. I trust they realize this, and will soon be announcing the signing of Yoenis Cespedes to be our left fielder and clean-up hitter for the foreseeable future. If not, well, it'll be quite the black eye on this management team's reputation, and will seriously call into question the capabilities of the team's ownership and management.

 

EXCELLENT post.

 

I don't know what Sox fans are so worried about. Tomorrow, KW will take to the podium and declare Detroit made this move in an effort to be as good as the Sox.

QUOTE (blackmooncreeping @ Jan 19, 2016 -> 03:35 AM)
At this point, 1 playoff appearance since '05, they will have to sign Cespedes to make me NOT think that...

 

Allowing Ventura another year as manager is enough to get me to question ownership/management. Also waiting for Hahn to start producing a quality team.

QUOTE (BlackSox13 @ Jan 18, 2016 -> 09:37 PM)
I don't know what Sox fans are so worried about. Tomorrow, KW will take to the podium and declare Detroit made this move in an effort to be as good as the Sox.

 

And say avi will be the MVP lol

QUOTE (Thad Bosley @ Jan 18, 2016 -> 09:32 PM)
So now the Sox HAVE to sign Cespedes. The optics otherwise will be a public relations disaster for this team, and an abject organizational embarrassment. No team during the past five, six weeks has been tied into being "in" on not one, not two, but all three of the so-called "top tier" free agent outfielders more so than the White Sox. We were "interested" in Gordon. We were "in" on Upton. We were "considering" Cespedes.

 

Then the leak. The leak that we were only interested in making an offer to any of the three of them for "three years or LESS". Enter the small market intra-divisional Royals, who move in and lock up Gordon on a four year contract. Tonight, another AL Central rival, the Tigers, sign Upton to a six year deal. And this on the heals of our intra-city rival Cubs signing Heyward to an eight year contract. Welcome to market economics!

 

If another team swoops in now and snags Cespedes on something resembling more what the market is bearing vs. this three year offer business the Sox are operating under, then it will be a colossal failure of Hahn, Williams, and Reinsdorf. It will call into question their credibility when they claim over and over and over again their strong desire to return to the postseason as quickly as possible, and thereby maximize the window of opportunity with the current core. I trust they realize this, and will soon be announcing the signing of Yoenis Cespedes to be our left fielder and clean-up hitter for the foreseeable future. If not, well, it'll be quite the black eye on this management team's reputation, and will seriously call into question the capabilities of the team's ownership and management.

 

I've seen less drama on Jerry Springer.

QUOTE (BlackSox13 @ Jan 18, 2016 -> 09:37 PM)
I don't know what Sox fans are so worried about. Tomorrow, KW will take to the podium and declare Detroit made this move in an effort to be as good as the Sox.

Last time he said that, the Sox did win the division.

QUOTE (southsider2k5 @ Jan 18, 2016 -> 10:38 PM)
I've seen less drama on Jerry Springer.

We know winning means little to you, so no reason to weigh in.

QUOTE (WhiteSoxLifer @ Jan 18, 2016 -> 09:38 PM)
And say avi will be the MVP lol

Booyah! :lol:

QUOTE (Thad Bosley @ Jan 18, 2016 -> 09:32 PM)
So now the Sox HAVE to sign Cespedes. The optics otherwise will be a public relations disaster for this team, and an abject organizational embarrassment. No team during the past five, six weeks has been tied into being "in" on not one, not two, but all three of the so-called "top tier" free agent outfielders more so than the White Sox. We were "interested" in Gordon. We were "in" on Upton. We were "considering" Cespedes.

 

Then the leak. The leak that we were only interested in making an offer to any of the three of them for "three years or LESS". Enter the small market intra-divisional Royals, who move in and lock up Gordon on a four year contract. Tonight, another AL Central rival, the Tigers, sign Upton to a six year deal. And this on the heals of our intra-city rival Cubs signing Heyward to an eight year contract. Welcome to market economics!

 

If another team swoops in now and snags Cespedes on something resembling more what the market is bearing vs. this three year offer business the Sox are operating under, then it will be a colossal failure of Hahn, Williams, and Reinsdorf. It will call into question their credibility when they claim over and over and over again their strong desire to return to the postseason as quickly as possible, and thereby maximize the window of opportunity with the current core. I trust they realize this, and will soon be announcing the signing of Yoenis Cespedes to be our left fielder and clean-up hitter for the foreseeable future. If not, well, it'll be quite the black eye on this management team's reputation, and will seriously call into question the capabilities of the team's ownership and management.

 

Soxfest will be a riot

 

QUOTE (WhiteSoxLifer @ Jan 18, 2016 -> 10:38 PM)
And say avi will be the MVP lol

At this point if you can't get Cespedes there is no way you give up a draft pick and sign fowler, somehow someway losing that pick would hurt even more. Can't keep up with the rest of the division, you might as well throw avi back out there for another season...

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