YouCanPutItOnTheBoardYES! Posted June 9, 2016 Share Posted June 9, 2016 QUOTE (Tony @ Jun 8, 2016 -> 09:24 PM) Yeah....give it a year or two of 70 win teams like you're asking for, you're going to be singing a different tune. I don't disagree with your premise, but it's not that simple, and you're basically admitting you are just sick of what you are watching and want something different, anything different. If it was a 70 win team with young potential in the minors (like the 2014 Cubs), I'd absolutely watch that and be confident that the team had a chance to improve in the future. Watching the Sox these days, that just isn't the case. Besides Anderson, the rest of the farm system has been very disappointing this year; and even Anderson isn't a sure thing. The Sox are in a tough position in the sense that they have legit talent at the MLB level (albeit, not enough to be an elite team), but have very little talent in the lower levels. If the big league sucks (like they have lately), then the organization is f***ed from top to bottom. It sucks, but it didn't have to be like this. Jerry/Kenny/Hahn created this disaster and now they have to deal with the consequences of a very poor team and an angry fanbase. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Bigsoxhurt35 Posted June 9, 2016 Share Posted June 9, 2016 QUOTE (TitoMB @ Jun 8, 2016 -> 09:31 PM) And what exactly is there for the fans to be energized about? No kidding especially after their s***ty last 26 games and the start of this game. It'll be a ghost town again Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
greg775 Posted June 9, 2016 Share Posted June 9, 2016 QUOTE (TitoMB @ Jun 9, 2016 -> 02:31 AM) And what exactly is there for the fans to be energized about? You left before the fourth inning?? Wow. That is pretty serious stuff. On a summer night? You musta really been disgusted. What's the deal with the concessions closed? What's that about? Tiny crowds? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Bob Sacamano Posted June 9, 2016 Share Posted June 9, 2016 QUOTE (ChiSoxFanMike @ Jun 8, 2016 -> 09:33 PM) If it was a 70 win team with young potential in the minors (like the 2014 Cubs), I'd absolutely watch that and be confident that the team had a chance to improve in the future. Watching the Sox these days, that just isn't the case. Besides Anderson, the rest of the farm system has been very disappointing this year; and even Anderson isn't a sure thing. The Sox are in a tough position in the sense that they have legit talent at the MLB level (albeit, not enough to be an elite team), but have very little talent in the lower levels. If the big league sucks (like they have lately), then the organization is f***ed from top to bottom. It sucks, but it didn't have to be like this. Jerry/Kenny/Hahn created this disaster and now they have to deal with the consequences of a very poor team and an angry fanbase. Do they even have enough legit talent to be considered a "good team?" Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
YouCanPutItOnTheBoardYES! Posted June 9, 2016 Share Posted June 9, 2016 QUOTE (Tony @ Jun 8, 2016 -> 09:30 PM) Dude...... What? Never said those trades are realistic, I was just trying to generate some discussion as to how the future would look if the Sox traded two of their studs. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Bob Sacamano Posted June 9, 2016 Share Posted June 9, 2016 (edited) QUOTE (greg775 @ Jun 8, 2016 -> 09:34 PM) You left before the fourth inning?? Wow. That is pretty serious stuff. On a summer night? You musta really been disgusted. What's the deal with the concessions closed? What's that about? Tiny crowds? On a work night, I would totally leave early from a game like this. I however don't go during the weekdays anymore. Edited June 9, 2016 by soxfan2014 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ptatc Posted June 9, 2016 Share Posted June 9, 2016 QUOTE (TitoMB @ Jun 8, 2016 -> 08:40 PM) So who takes Shields' spot in the rotation? Bonus question: does this go down as the worst of all KW trades? Unbelievable. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Southwest Sider Posted June 9, 2016 Share Posted June 9, 2016 QUOTE (soxfan49 @ Jun 8, 2016 -> 09:29 PM) I've never left a baseball game before the 4th inning. Today I did. That stadium was a disaster. Concession stands closed, no energy from the fans, Nationals almost had as many fans as the Sox did, etc. Despicable. My buddy and I got hyped to buy tickets to the game tomorrow over a month ago. Let's just say I am happy we didn't buy the tickets ahead of time. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Bob Sacamano Posted June 9, 2016 Share Posted June 9, 2016 (edited) QUOTE (ptatc @ Jun 8, 2016 -> 09:37 PM) Unbelievable. Remember: trades people like = Rick Hahn. Trades people don't like = All Kenny's fault. I'm at the point of getting rid of both and the entire coaching staff. Edited June 9, 2016 by soxfan2014 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
greg775 Posted June 9, 2016 Share Posted June 9, 2016 QUOTE (SouthSideSale @ Jun 9, 2016 -> 02:33 AM) Ah the team meeting. Lol This may sound dumb, but there should have been a team meeting right after the choke vs. Texas. At that point we had a GREAT baseball team. Some veteran shoulda said, "I don't want this motherf***ing game to influence us the rest of this f***ing season!! I've seen it hurt teams before! Go to the hotel. Get drunk if you want! Come here tomorrow ready to play!!" Instead, the "book" says you treat all losses the same. Act the same way after wins and losses. Predictably, that ended our season. Can't head things off in baseball. It's a marathon you know. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
soxfan49 Posted June 9, 2016 Share Posted June 9, 2016 QUOTE (TitoMB @ Jun 8, 2016 -> 09:31 PM) And what exactly is there for the fans to be energized about? I just mean that 7:07 hits, the god damn pregame promo can barely be heard, no more Thunderstruck, some dopes yelling "play ball." No s***. I wasn't energized, and the Sox didn't help with their audio and s***, but if you are going to go and sit down and be silent, stay home. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
AmericanLeagueFan Posted June 9, 2016 Share Posted June 9, 2016 QUOTE (SoxPride18 @ Jun 8, 2016 -> 09:16 PM) He's only been in the organization since 2012 and the system has improved since then, so I don't know what you're talking about. Sox farm system ranking: 16' rank 23 15' rank 20 14' rank 24 13' rank 29 12' rank 30 11' rank 27 so yeah by the bare minimum definition of getting better, i suppose youre right. And throw in (i believe) a few top 5 draft picks recently to boot. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
YouCanPutItOnTheBoardYES! Posted June 9, 2016 Share Posted June 9, 2016 QUOTE (soxfan2014 @ Jun 8, 2016 -> 09:35 PM) Do they even have enough legit talent to be considered a "good team?" In theory, a team with Sale/Quintana/Rodon/Eaton/Abreu/Frazier/Lawrie/Cabrera/Robertson all relatively in their primes should be good...unfortunately, that isn't the case. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Southwest Sider Posted June 9, 2016 Share Posted June 9, 2016 This organization should have sold out for Theo Epstein when they had the chance. JRs loyalty is a b****. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
southsider2k5 Posted June 9, 2016 Share Posted June 9, 2016 QUOTE (AmericanLeagueFan @ Jun 8, 2016 -> 09:39 PM) Sox farm system ranking: 16' rank 23 15' rank 20 14' rank 24 13' rank 29 12' rank 30 11' rank 27 so yeah by the bare minimum definition of getting better, i suppose youre right. And throw in (i believe) a few top 5 draft picks recently to boot. 1 top five pick. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
TitoMB345 Posted June 9, 2016 Share Posted June 9, 2016 QUOTE (ptatc @ Jun 8, 2016 -> 07:37 PM) Unbelievable. That's fine that you believe that, but Kenny has always had a hardon for Shields. He absolutely was the man behind this trade. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
TitoMB345 Posted June 9, 2016 Share Posted June 9, 2016 QUOTE (soxfan49 @ Jun 8, 2016 -> 07:39 PM) I just mean that 7:07 hits, the god damn pregame promo can barely be heard, no more Thunderstruck, some dopes yelling "play ball." No s***. I wasn't energized, and the Sox didn't help with their audio and s***, but if you are going to go and sit down and be silent, stay home. Yeah, I still can't believe they got rid of Thunderstruck. Really, really sad. Used to be so much fun. Haven't been to a game at the Cell in a few years. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
juddling Posted June 9, 2016 Share Posted June 9, 2016 boy....it's almost like Erik Johnson never left :unsure: Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
flavum Posted June 9, 2016 Share Posted June 9, 2016 Avila needs to start his coaching career next year. Dude is toast. Nice guy. Future manager maybe. Can't play anymore. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ptatc Posted June 9, 2016 Share Posted June 9, 2016 QUOTE (TitoMB @ Jun 8, 2016 -> 09:46 PM) That's fine that you believe that, but Kenny has always had a hardon for Shields. He absolutely was the man behind this trade. Conspiracy at it's best. I think it was the administrative assistant to JR. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Bigsoxhurt35 Posted June 9, 2016 Share Posted June 9, 2016 I just want a good baseball team again. I miss it. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
flavum Posted June 9, 2016 Share Posted June 9, 2016 QUOTE (SouthSideSale @ Jun 8, 2016 -> 09:51 PM) I just want a good baseball team again. I miss it. We'll always have April, 2016. Now added to the 117 days in 2012, and the year they went 26-5 around the break. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
YonderLaroche Posted June 9, 2016 Share Posted June 9, 2016 QUOTE (ChiSoxFanMike @ Jun 8, 2016 -> 09:42 PM) In theory, a team with Sale/Quintana/Rodon/Eaton/Abreu/Frazier/Lawrie/Cabrera/Robertson all relatively in their primes should be good...unfortunately, that isn't the case. A team with avilla, avi, sands, Rollins in starting lineup should be in last. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
flavum Posted June 9, 2016 Share Posted June 9, 2016 Double digits tomorrow? Trifecta? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
klaus kinski Posted June 9, 2016 Share Posted June 9, 2016 And another player we could trade is getting pounded Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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