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Ah, we have quickly gotten to the part where you narrow your qualifications to the results of one previous series 20+ years ago.  Check mate 

 

(Ps it wasn't a secret that Kobe was gonna be good, Dave Cowen was just a dumb ass)

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1 hour ago, Kyyle23 said:

Ah, we have quickly gotten to the part where you narrow your qualifications to the results of one previous series 20+ years ago.  Check mate 

 

(Ps it wasn't a secret that Kobe was gonna be good, Dave Cowen was just a dumb ass)

If it wasn't a secret, why did he last until the middle of the 1st round? 

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14 minutes ago, Jack Parkman said:

If it wasn't a secret, why did he last until the middle of the 1st round? 

He was 18 and the league wasn't really all about having kids in the NBA.    But nobody doubted that he could play

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12 hours ago, Kyyle23 said:

He was 18 and the league wasn't really all about having kids in the NBA.    But nobody doubted that he could play

He was actually still 17 when he was drafted. Duuuuuuhhhhh :P

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49 minutes ago, Brian said:

He was actually still 17 when he was drafted. Duuuuuuhhhhh :P

MY BAD

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15 hours ago, Jack Parkman said:

I already did. Games were more competitive, series were more competitive, the 3 peat LA Lakers in the early 2000 overcame 2 20 point deficits in the 3rd quarter of consecutive 7s in 2000 and 2001 vs  the Blazers and Kings respectively. There were points in series where the outcome was in question. GSW is down 3-2 but I still won't believe they'll lose until they do. This is just off the top of my head. The 1998 Bulls had to play 7 games to beat the Pacers, and a lot of games were close. Losing Durant should be a death blow to a team, the fact that GSW can potentially win a title without him, is an indictment of exactly how anti competitive the NBA has become. 

Btw in the 7 game series between the Bulls and Pacers in 1998 3 of the 7 games were decided by one possession, 6 of the 7 games were decided by fewer than 10 points. Go look it up. That kind of competition doesn't happen in the NBA anymore. 

 

this is just so stupid. Portland/Denver had a 4 OT game in a 7 game series. Philly/Toronto had the entire series won on a last second shot that hit the rim 4 times. SAS/Denver game 7 went down to the last minute.

The 6 game eastern finals had 2/3 of its games with 10 points and was a big upset.

Last years Rockets/Warriors.

It's just idiotic, but you'll be able to maintain your argument for eternity by selective application of your terrible basketball memory.

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34 minutes ago, bmags said:

this is just so stupid. Portland/Denver had a 4 OT game in a 7 game series. Philly/Toronto had the entire series won on a last second shot that hit the rim 4 times. SAS/Denver game 7 went down to the last minute.

The 6 game eastern finals had 2/3 of its games with 10 points and was a big upset.

Last years Rockets/Warriors.

It's just idiotic, but you'll be able to maintain your argument for eternity by selective application of your terrible basketball memory.

It just seemed like every game was more competitive. It was a hell of a lot more entertaining. 

Have you ever heard the saying: "To be the best, you have to beat the best?" Instead it has become "If you can't beat 'em, join 'em" and that is the cowardly way out. These guys who do this shit are cowards, and they're taking fucking shortcuts to basically guarantee themselves titles. It is bullshit. The Bulls played the Pistons 3x before they beat them. How many times did Stockton and Malone lose conference finals before they finally got there? That kind of shit used to happen all of the time and it was a huge storyline. 

Shaq didn't go to a team on the way up, or ready to win. I want these guys to want to be the guy. Where the fuck has the alpha-male gene gone with NBA players? 

 

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17 hours ago, bmags said:

Scottie Pippen was not traded for Shawn Kemp. And are you familiar with the 80s celtics and lakers and super teams?

Pippen was traded for Olden Polynice. 

Hopefully I spelled it right so his google alert will work

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1 hour ago, joejoedairy said:

Pippen was traded for Olden Polynice. 

Hopefully I spelled it right so his google alert will work

Was it him?  I thought it was Kemp. 

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1 hour ago, SoxAce said:

Successful surgery for Durant. 

 

Yeah but can he play in Game 6?

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14 hours ago, chw42 said:

Yeah but can he play in Game 6?

Yep, he's good to go

 

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This trade proposal going around Twitter. Scoop FYI broke the Porzingis trade so this may have some legs. Would you guys do it? @Chisoxfn I think I already know your answer. ;)

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So the Bulls clear LaVine's contract, give up the #7 pick, get Ball and the #4 pick back? And have to absorb an expiring 1 year deal to do it? I'm game. 

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53 minutes ago, Balta1701 said:

So the Bulls clear LaVine's contract, give up the #7 pick, get Ball and the #4 pick back? And have to absorb an expiring 1 year deal to do it? I'm game. 

Are you serious? That is an absolutely awful trade.

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5 minutes ago, ron883 said:

Are you serious? That is an absolutely awful trade.

Only if you really think LaVine is a strong piece. I think he's a decent but overpaid player whose scoring would look no where near as good if there was anything of value around him (including the system/coaching staff) 

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2 hours ago, Balta1701 said:

Only if you really think LaVine is a strong piece. I think he's a decent but overpaid player whose scoring would look no where near as good if there was anything of value around him (including the system/coaching staff) 

I think there is still subjectively to where Lavine plays out, but given his performance last year, I'd say the notion that eh is overpaid is likely wrong. He is too good of a scorer and does a lot of other things to say he's overpaid. Whether he can take it to the next level, etc, that is another question.  I think all of this depends on what else the Bulls intend to do because I like Lavine. 

If they make this deal, they are punting further down the road and in a spot that they are tanking again this year (unless they are doing something else in free agency).  I can see reasons to make the move though.  I prefer the notion that they offer the #7, Lavine, and WCJ for Davis and take a chance.  Than go after one other big free agent and take your chance that you can convince AD to stay.  Go big or go home.  

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2 hours ago, ron883 said:

Are you serious? That is an absolutely awful trade.

Yeah, hard pass. If the #3 were in play, sure, but now you're opening up a hole at SG, you're not drafting and developing Garland when you have Ball-Dunn...that's just a terrible trade.

And LaVine isn't overpaid at $18M, especially when the cap will keep going up. He's basically the same player as Devin Booker, while making an average $13M less.

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3 minutes ago, Quin said:

Yeah, hard pass. If the #3 were in play, sure, but now you're opening up a hole at SG, you're not drafting and developing Garland when you have Ball-Dunn...that's just a terrible trade.

And LaVine isn't overpaid at $18M, especially when the cap will keep going up. He's basically the same player as Devin Booker, while making an average $13M less.

These are exactly my thoughts. Even if you view him as just a one dimensional scorer, he isn't making all that much. 

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I would absolutely do it if we were keeping the 7th pick. I still might do it (I'm not a LaVine fan at all) if the Bulls like Culver as much as I do, but it's a bit tougher to really stomach. I do like the Bulls trying to get rid of the dumb players though (except Felicio who is untradeable at the moment) and Ball has great vision and basketball I.Q. You would be banking on him shooting like his college days though (also for the injury issues to go away). The other thing I would have trouble stomaching a deal like that is you basically lack shot creators on the floor which LaVine is very, very good at. The defense would be miles better though. I just do not want to help the Lakers get AD.

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41 minutes ago, Quin said:

Klay's knee did not look good on that landing.

Speculation around Twitter is he tore his ACL.

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