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White Sox acquire Jim Thome per ESPNnews

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QUOTE(kyyle23 @ Nov 23, 2005 -> 03:25 PM)
AJP has seen this before when he was in a Twins uniform.  Also, the guys in the clubhouse know that Jim Thome is a wrecking ball in the batters box, they know what this means to this offense.  

 

The offseason has just begun, my interest is now piqued.

 

Well put. I know it's difficult to avoid, but constructing a perennial winner necessitates that a GM not "fall in love" with any one player. Decisions to keep players based on emotional factors usually turn out badly for the entire team. Decisions need to be made based upon needs. To that end, this is an excellent trade. The Sox get a big, strong power hitting left-handed bat in the middle of the order in exchange for a position player whose numbers can be replaced to an extent by in-house candidates for even less money. This also provides the Sox with the flexibility, if they choose, to trade for a speedster to play center and bat second in the line-up, allowing Tadahito to move down in the order and hit for more power. Assuming we sign Paulie, Thome also creates some flexibility for the line-up in that he can play first on occasion and allow Paulie to DH and get some rest.

 

I like Aaron too, but this is a very good trade for the Sox.

Edited by infohawk

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QUOTE(Kalapse @ Nov 23, 2005 -> 02:43 PM)
Not if his '06 is anything like his '04. If that is the case his value will be 100X what it is right now IMO.

There was a perfect storm of teams seeking CFers this year. Yankees, Boston, SD, Cubs, Phillies, etc... I don't think you'll see teams with the assets of those all in the market for a CFer in the same year for a while.

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QUOTE(FlaSoxxJim @ Nov 23, 2005 -> 02:44 PM)
I'm conflicted over this.  It definately improves the lineup.  But losing ARow is a tough blow to take.

 

If the cash considerations from Philly mean we can resign PK, then I guess this is the right thing to do.

 

 

We hang on to Konerko next season and we're going to win at least 100 games.

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QUOTE(Heads22 @ Nov 23, 2005 -> 02:45 PM)
Let's remember, Jon was traded to Anaheim. Tain't official yet.

That's what I'm hoping for. Hopefully Thome is the next Erstad.

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QUOTE(fathom @ Nov 23, 2005 -> 02:45 PM)
Rumor is that it's Rowand and 2 prospects?

1 spect + cash

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If anyone is upset Rowand got traded, they should have seen this coming about 2 weeks ago when he was mentioned in nearly every trade scenario.

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The Chicago White Sox have acquired Jim Thome.

 

Thome.

 

This guy potentially can put up downright silly numbers playing the majority of his games in US Cellular Field.

 

This is unreal.

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QUOTE(Greg The Bull Luzinski @ Nov 23, 2005 -> 02:40 PM)
What are Thome's stats at the Cell??

http://sports.yahoo.com/mlb/players/4762/s...er&type=Batting

            G     AB   R   H     2B  3B   HR     RBI   BB   K     SB   CS AVG  
vs. CWS        122  420  87  124  22  2     41     107  80    125   3    1  .295
@Cell      58    210  43   60  8    2     18     50    34    69     1    1  .286

Edited by Athomeboy_2000

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QUOTE(AddisonStSox @ Nov 23, 2005 -> 08:46 PM)
The Chicago White Sox have acquired Jim Thome.

 

Thome.

 

This guy potentially can put up downright silly numbers playing the majority of his games in US Cellular Field.

 

This is unreal.

Quickest MS paint skills in the West!

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QUOTE(fathom @ Nov 23, 2005 -> 02:46 PM)
If anyone is upset Rowand got traded, they should have seen this coming about 2 weeks ago when he was mentioned in nearly every trade scenario.

It's not about not seeing it comming, it's about it finally happening.

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Very interesting....Guess Philly really wanted out of that Thome deal....If Jim is healthy and Paulie resigns, the Sox have a great 1-2 punch in the middle of the order then :gosox1:

 

Will miss A-Row :crying so let's hope Brian Anderson can provide some stellar D!

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QUOTE(Athomeboy_2000 @ Nov 23, 2005 -> 02:46 PM)
http://sports.yahoo.com/mlb/players/4762/s...er&type=Batting

      G  AB  R  H  2B  3B  HR  RBI  BB  K  SB  CS  AVG  
vs. CWS        122  420  87  124  22  2  41  107  80  125  3  1  .295  .406  .650  1.056

Yeah, but he doesn't get to face Jim Parque anymore

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QUOTE(Athomeboy_2000 @ Nov 23, 2005 -> 03:46 PM)
http://sports.yahoo.com/mlb/players/4762/s...er&type=Batting

      G  AB  R  H  2B  3B  HR  RBI  BB  K  SB  CS  AVG  
vs. CWS        122  420  87  124  22  2  41  107  80  125  3  1  .295  .406  .650  1.056

 

 

Good numbers as long as we keep in mind the pitching we had. Those numbers seem pretty clutch to me.

Edited by Greg The Bull Luzinski

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I'm going to say this right now...

 

I have a little brother who is 8 yrs. old. He does not know much about baseball but he does know who Aaron Rowand is. Aaron Rowand is his favorite baseball player. He has his baseball glove signed by Aaron Rowand!

 

He will not be a happy man when he comes home from school. I'm gonna have to hate to tell him the news...

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QUOTE(Athomeboy_2000 @ Nov 23, 2005 -> 02:46 PM)
http://sports.yahoo.com/mlb/players/4762/s...er&type=Batting

           G     AB   R   H     2B  3B   HR     RBI   BB   K     SB   CS AVG  
vs. CWS      122  420  87  124  22  2     41     107  80    125   3    1  .295

 

 

thats against the sox total, not just at the cell

Edited by toasty

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Does this hurt the team...no...only in maybe chemistry and how it will effect Crede and AJ who formed the 3 Stooges...that is my only real concern. ARow had the most value in terms of a trade without disrupting the Sox lineup. Face it...he really wasn't a huge threat for that much of the year at the plate. Damn...I'll miss him though.

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Good deal

 

I think this is fair for both sides. I am going to miss Rowand and he is going to be a great player.

 

I do not believe anyone can judge this trade or any trade this early. Look at the Lee deal and now tell me how it turned out. For all of you that are complaining of the trade please give it time and I for one appreciate everything Rowand has done for the organization and the city of Chicago.

 

I trust KW and he is doing what is best for the team. He has a player that can flat out hit and I would believe that Thome has a chip on his shoulder. He was pushed out of Philli for Howard and with all the injury talk he has a lot to prove. I will be buying my Thome jersey soon.

 

As I posted in another topic I believe Pierre is next.

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QUOTE(toasty @ Nov 23, 2005 -> 02:50 PM)
thats against the sox total, not just at the cell

SOrry, i posted the wrong line. I added at the Cell.

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Thome has been givin it to the Sox Kobe to Katelyn style, home or away, for as long as I've been a Sox fan. I have no doubts he'll put up great numbers if healthy.

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QUOTE(Soxman72 @ Nov 23, 2005 -> 03:51 PM)
As I posted in another topic I believe Pierre is next.

 

 

This signals big changes. Those who complained that the offense was weak last year should not be b****ing right now. With Pierre and Thome over Rowand and Everett, we will improve.

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Ok, someone tell me who plays where between Konerko (if he reups) and Thome?

 

I'm happy, but sad, b/c Rowand was a hell of a CF. Good luck to him.

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