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You can’t possibly be this thick.

I so badly want the Rams here!

And it's not like it was his mother's funeral. It was a memorial for a neighbor he only knew about a year. And really, normal, busy people split up, where the wife hits the wake and the husband hits the funeral, and everybody's checking email and texts at the after-luncheon. Shaw was there to "support" a national celebrity he was a neighbor with for a year at a stadium. His absence probably wouldn't have been noticed, you know, with the President and others attending. Normal people would have sent a card, then called, if they were that close. It was a serious character issue with the choice Shaw made.

So if the Eagles win, they play the Bears. If the 49ers win, the Bears play the Rams. I like the Bears chances more against the Eagles but f*** Philly and their fans. So I guess bring on the Rams.

Sox fans have PTSD after the last 45 years.

Welp, it's over. None of us should ever have morals or standards again. This is absolutely a copout.

@TheBooneLoganEra already said it best in his previous post. Good luck.

Once again, that isn’t the argument. My point was that it’s perfectly normal to take a stance on things that don’t directly affect you. I don’t know why you keep making it about something else.

Then it’s an even worse stance hating on someone over that, rather than thinking he is a bad teammate for missing a game.

I don’t think that’s what PaleAleSox was referring to. But you knew that already.

Based.

The specific scenario we were talking about was a baseball player getting permission from his team and confirming that his teammates would be okay with him missing a game to attend the funeral of his friend. The guy did not potentially commit a crime, which was one of the comparisons made (Clevinger). I don’t feel I need to comment on this any further because quite frankly it’s ridiculous.

Dammit....we likely get the Bills in the 2nd round unless the Chargers upset the Patriots. Likely a loss either way.

Jags are my second team now, though it's more of a passive following. Jags defense really blew this one - guy wide open 30+ yards down the field set up a touchdown. Can't give up those plays when you have a late lead. Very Packers-esque.

I don’t want to turn this into a big thing because there’s no point, as Timmy joked about, but think this post through. Are you honestly indifferent about people’s behaviour if it doesn’t directly affect you? I doubt it. Anyways, regardless on anyone’s thoughts about Matt Shaw, I can’t imagine it happening.

What else we gonna do? Bears won already.

Well Trevor Lawrence certainly ain't Caleb Williams in the clutch.

I'm not as high on Quero as some due to his lack of power and ehh defense so far. I'd look to maximize his value in a trade. Shaw was hyped, but he had a decent first year and there are apparently some makeup concerns, plus they have nowhere to play him right now unless he can play RF, where his current hitting would hurt his productivity unless he really turns it on. There's a lot of factors you can argue will reduce Shaw's value in a trade, though it's still probably not likely they move him for Quero + some low level guy like I'd want. I'd still be calling the Cubs. I'm not trading any pitching right now. They need too much of it.

I saw the “hot” label on this thread and thought something happened, only to read thinkpieces about Matt Shaw getting traded to the Sox.

I love a run this long about a potential trade exactly zero industry sources are speculating about. It’s not a rumor. It’s baseball fanfic. It tells how long the wait until pitchers and catchers report is going to be.

As do the prospects that the Sox would have to trade to get Shaw. And the way he’s hyped, it would be a heavy cost. Or, would you trade Shane Smith for him? I might if he had that war playing CF.

Funny to see the Red Sox not beat out the Cubs but their payroll is already much higher. I think the Cubs are projected at around $176 million and Boston is at $243 million.

Ive got bad news for you my friend, you already root for, and have rooted for people like Matt Shaw.

It’s unfortunate that Matt Shaw did something so grievous to you that you would have to actively root against him if he was ever a member of your favorite team.

Maybe before Ishbia emerged as the next owner, there may have been a scenario where that could have happened. But, once it was announced that JR would eventually sell to him, that should have put to rest any concerns. Ishbia's comments during his meeting with the Pope in November should have slammed the door on any such talk. I think the only question remaining is whether Ishbia is going to bankroll a new ballpark for the Sox in the South Loop. We'll see, that's a lot of money- even for a billionaire. But I find it hard to believe his plans after spending somewhere close to $2B for the franchise is to keep them at "There's Nothing Wrong With It" Field for the next 35 years.