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Yeah weird that the Rays couldn’t move him
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It's the same damned exercise we see happen over and over again. Dude exceeded what MLB could have gotten him for a month ago, because demand.
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As someone who is currently dating a Reds fan, I hope this happens lol. Told her I might buy a Robert jersey out of principle.
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It's kind of the same gamble we just took with Murakami. It isn't a slam dunk type move, but one that if it works out would be a HUGE add.
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As a buy low. I wouldn’t want my team giving up much.
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Kinda saw this coming. I think Newcomb was the fallback position.
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He beat the option value
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Yeah, my line of thinking on this topic has changed as more has been reported here. You aren't taking operations debt on for paper losses. That doesn't make sense. You take on debt for real losses.
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It might even be worth moving Robert out of CF to see if that keeps him a bit healthier.
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1 year, 13 million.
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Robert Thread: Sox talking to Reds, Mets
Chicago White Sox replied to Snopek's topic in Pale Hose Talk
I’m actually ok with Baldwin being the guy in CF if we move Robert. I’m certainly not against trading for a CF prospect if the right deal came along, but don’t really see the allure of trading for a 29 year old CF with two years of control. If we need a cheap placeholder somewhere, go get that guy in free agency. Otherwise, trades need to focus on controllable players IMO. -
Agreed. And they are a good fit compensation wise with the Sox. I think if we can leverage the NYM interest a bit longer maybe we can pull whatever second piece Getz has his eye on. I do hope that the CF plan isn't just Baldwin or Pereira. I'd like to see them send Cannon to HOU for Meyers or make a big trade with Quero for a good young CF MLBer or prospect.
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$500M in debt that the new limited partners will help pay down. That doesn't sound like accounting tricks to falsely show that (some) teams are losing money as some people claim. I wonder if other teams have a significant debt aside from the Twins and White Sox. This article discussed the 20% share and paying down a "significant amount" of the debt. I'm surprised it's not all the debt. https://puckettspond.com/new-minority-owners-bring-skills-and-hopes-of-energizing-the-twins-01kd1e61nr0d
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Winter Meetings Dec. Trades FA Signings Thread
Chicago White Sox replied to caulfield12's topic in Pale Hose Talk
What in the f*** is happening in this post. You’re a good dude caulfield, but you also bring on a lot of negative energy towards yourself by posting mindless slop like the above. -
Robert Thread: Sox talking to Reds, Mets
Chicago White Sox replied to Snopek's topic in Pale Hose Talk
Friedl would move to LF…problem solved -
Robert Thread: Sox talking to Reds, Mets
Chicago White Sox replied to Snopek's topic in Pale Hose Talk
Honestly, I’d be ecstatic about the idea if I were a Reds fan. Prospect hugging B tier guys while shooting for 80 wins doesn’t seem like a lot of fun to me. I’d much rather take a calculated risk and hope Robert can stay healthy and return to form offensively (which he flashed prior to injury last year) in a new environment. -
I'd be excited to acquire him for a mid level prospect and at half the salary. We could talk about him rebounding, etc. In this case it will be better to receive than to give. But reality is we have him. I keep thinking that him in the line up in 2026 only makes sense in the altered reality at 35th and Wentworth*. *Shields just hasn't made sense to me.
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They also already have TJ Friedl...so someone would need to move to a corner.
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Per Passan: White Sox sign Munetaka Murakami 2 years 34M
caulfield12 replied to GreatScott82's topic in Pale Hose Talk
It all depends on what they do with Buxton (no trade clause would have to be waived), Ryan and Lopez. Offensive talent...they might have the edge overall, even with Murakami. Bullpen was totally gutted, so a bit behind the Sox, who have a deficit in speed/athleticism and defense still. -
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Per Passan: White Sox sign Munetaka Murakami 2 years 34M
southsider2k5 replied to GreatScott82's topic in Pale Hose Talk
When the idea was that the Twins were going to finish burning the franchise to the ground this off-season and trading their last few pieces, I would have bet the Sox ahead of the Twins, and said as much. Now that they have their capital infusion, and aren't in desperate financial straights anymore, that might change. We will see what the Twins do. -
Fuly agreed. Harold is the Hall of Very Good.
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https://www.yahoo.com/sports/articles/5-contenders-already-cemented-bad-003505696.html Padres Guardians Reds Pirates Marlins Cubs all stuck in baseball purgatory. Some Cubs' fans even worried they might have All Star game offer withdrawn.
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Winter Meetings Dec. Trades FA Signings Thread
caulfield12 replied to caulfield12's topic in Pale Hose Talk
https://www.yahoo.com/sports/articles/5-contenders-already-cemented-bad-003505696.html At least I have an excuse. Recently retired at 56, but wife is working tomorrow and son has a normal school day in China...actually a ton of homework to get through, including memorizing Chinese and English passages and doing algebra, geometry and trig in Grade 5. And I just blew #1 seed in fantasy football playoffs due to Mahomes Kelce Judkins...so don't really care much about #3/4 finish. Avatar 3 2.5 Wake Up Dead Man 3.5 Sisu 1 3.25 Sisu 2 Road to Revenge 3.75 Bugonia 3.5 Influencer 3.5 Influencers 2.75 The Housemaid 3.5 Zootopia 3.25 Nuremberg 3.5 Sentimental Value 3.5 -
It looks to me like the cost to the Reds is hovering around something like Mason Adams and an alternate reality Samuel Zavala who played his way up to AA in '25. That, plus the competitive balance pick. That looks like a no-brainer.
