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We all recognized that Luis Robert had a career year in 2023. We all recognized that it was the first time Luis Robert had been healthy for a full season, outside of his 60 game COVID season, including the minors. What were the odds of Luis Robert being both healthy and productive going forward, when he had never done it before. Understanding that Peak Value Luis Robert was almost certainly after 2023, you also have to recognize that if Luis Robert goes back to injured and/or not productive, his value drops immensely, that even if you didn't get VaLuE for him in 2023, that this ACTUAL return was almost certainly going to be the best you ever got because at the same time you are expecting him to return to his career norms, he was also getting exponentially more expensive. Being a good GM isn't about keeping the masses happy, it's about being smarter than the masses. If Chris Getz kept Luis Robert because he was worry about people like me on a message board, he is in the wrong line of work. Who cares what fans would have thought if it was the smartest move, and on top of it all, he KNEW THIS WAS GOING TO BE A TERRIBLE baseball team going forward that would take half a decade to rebuild. That timeline only emphasizes the point to sell as soon as humanly possible on Robert. So while now we have to pretend to be happy about a halloween prank of a return because ThIs Is WhAt He Is WoRtH nOw, we could have done something years ago, and that can't be ignored.

The 5th highest paid player on the roster is Derek Hill at $900k lol everyone under him is league minimum ($820k)

Well hard to say the Sox lost what they never really had. That said, we wasted a lot of words here on what ultimately was a nothing burger. Robert is clearly valued as a 1.5 WAR player on a bad one year deal. I don't really blame Getz if JR wasn't willing to pay any freight. At least they got something, even if the upside is a few years of a mildly useful Leury like utility guy.

Just a matter of time. The Robert trade was probably his last piece of leverage.

I really have no problem with the trade, What was insane was picking up Robert's option in the first place if the best you can do is what they did. If Tucker signs with the Mets, Luis Robert is doing exactly what you said would be insane.I'm thinking the Mets and Dodgers are probably the only teams in baseball that would take Robert without the Sox either eating money or taking a lot back. And from Getz's comments today, Robert's contract has hamstrung them all winter.

Luis Robert won't be on the next good White Sox team. Acuna and Pauley might be. It's basically that simple. The league just told you what Robert is worth. Holding him into the season would be insane. He'll be hurt again. He's unreliable and I'm glad it's over.

Because if they were getting offers that were below his value, why should they have taken a lesser offer? You're saying this while pretending that everyone saw the Acuña/Pauley deal sitting here in 2026. There was no urgency to trade Robert in that off-season. Looking back, we know that was when his value was highest. Should they trade Colson Montgomery right now and take the best offer because in 3 years, they might want to trade him but only be offered garbage because of that injury and slump he's going to have in 2028?

I am too which is why I hope to still be around when Ishbia takes over. Because until then, especially with the lockout coming, a "successful" season for the Sox will be if they don't lose 100 games.

So if a full rebuild takes 5 years and Robert was only here for a maximum of 4 more years with his option years, why not trade him after his best season ever? Surely the return would have been better than Acuña and Pauley, no? That was pretty much my point. No need to get salty when you can’t contest someone’s point.

I would expect a full rebuild to take around 5 years. You are arguing that the Sox should have traded Robert for a substandard return after the 2023 season. Getz did just that with Cease, and you still scream about it. And really, Aaron Bummer wasn't a setup man at that point, and Gregory Santos was the guy who was napping in the bullpen.

I went back to look at your posts during the 2023-2024 offseason, but they only start around Christmas. I'm guessing you got banned under a previous moniker for screaming that the White Sox should have traded Robert, Yoan and Eloy right then, and nobody could handle how right you were. LOL.

The fact that you still can't let go of me is so cute. 💓

And some here whined about the Crochet trade because Getz was only able to pry 2 of Boston's top 5 prospects away.

I read this post and pictured you replying to @WBWSF which made it even funnier.

Say last june, Chris Getz decided to do something more his speed and become a ski instructor leaving the White Sox GM job open and JR to have to actually interview candidates. You have an interview and he asks what you would do with Robert. You say you would have to pick up his option, you may be able to get Luisangel Acuna for him. JR later looks him up in BR. I'm guessing you wouldn't get another interview.

Or you just keep him. Not like he's blocking anyone and I'd be surprised if they get 1.5 WAR from their center field options now. Or you just buy him out and try to resign him on a prove it deal to make it more attractive at the deadline, or let him go be someone else's problem.

And how many years do rebuilds typically take? Because Getz literally started one the minute he was promoted to GM which was right after Robert’s best season in 2023. Getz then proceeded to trade his setup man, closer, best starting pitcher, and sign some vets to mostly 1-year deals.

What a strange comment this is. On one hand you say because of JR the whole league knew the poker hand Getz was dealt . On the other hand you call him the worst poker player ever. How good of a poker player would anyone be with every player looking at your cards ? Do you even think about if what you say makes any sense ? He basically traded the Robert contract for the Murakami contract and still ended up not paying for Robert's salary or the buyout plus got a couple of warm bodies. Its a lot more than you somehow trying to create the illusion that Getz should be getting 18 to 24 years of prospects like you mentioned several times so that anything short of that looks terrible even though you just admitted everyone could see his hand. He can't even bluff but even if he could bluff you'd call him a liar for doing so. Your arguments and logic are pitiful.He has never been in a position to be a good poker player and according to your previous posts he's not allowed to bluff even if his hand was not exposed to the whole league .

Yes. We do now. At the time? He was an All-Star with 4 years of cheap control.

So the argument is that we didn’t know when the perfect moment to trade Robert was, but with the benefit of hindsight we do now? Robert finished the best season in his career at the end of the 2023 season. Getz was promoted to GM on August 2023. In his first offseason, he had already started his rebuild — he signed some mediocre free agents and traded Cease. Are you saying that at no point in time after the 2023 season ended and Getz took over as GM that Robert wasn’t worth more than Acuna and Pauley and that it didn’t make sense to trade Robert considering Getz had already started a rebuild?

There’s nothing here at all. A utility player that’s already out of options. The Sox will use him, but not to win games. From a baseball perspective, if this is the best return, you roll the dice on a deadline deal every time. Which unfortunately supports the idea that this was a financial decision. All that crap about getting Jerry onboard with the Murakami vision looks made up. Really it was that Getz got permission to reallocate the money to Murakami instead of straight up save it. 2026: White Sox OD payroll trending to just a hair over $60M

This sucks. I feel like the Sox were shaping up to be a relatively interesting offensive team. Robert had a smidge of protection for the first time in forever. I think this outcome is better than simply declining the option and paying Robert $2M to go away, but I would have just held Robert. If he had a good season, the Sox could have been watchable and interesting-ish. If he didn't, we don't have Acuna - who was likely to be DFA or dumped for nothing in 2 months anyway as he is out of options. There is not a single player available for $20M that has the upside of Luis Robert, or could make the White Sox a better team instead of Robert. All this did was make the Sox worse, and lower the already brutally low payroll. I am pissed. Not at the return. Not that the Sox didn't time the market perfectly and trade him post-2023. But because it just feels like the Sox are a considerably worse team today than yesterday. And FFS, I am so ready to watch watchable baseball.

Robert contributed a win and a half each of the last two years. Trading him certainly doesn't create a hole in the lineup.