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Was that the old Adams Mark?

They prioritize the T-Mobile gate (requires T-Mobile service) and all the other gates are a complete s%*# show. I was there for Ichiro bobblehead in the T-Mobile line last year and it took roughly an hour to enter. The non T-Mobile gate looked about two hours, the line was wrapped around 3-4 city blocks at that point. Part of this is just PNW culture. It's slow. People do not respect others' time like say in Chicago or LA or NYC. In many ways Seattle is still a sleepy logging town compared to a lot of other metros.

The upper deck between first and third base at Tiger Stadium was the closest to the field of any stadium ever built. You could hear the players breathing from the upper deck.

I was speaking more to the seating and views. Big old posts everywhere, not really great site lines, overhanging upper deck, plenty of oddities about the park due to things like the block it was built into etc.

I did Nationals Park during a convention and we got a box to entertain clients, so I hardly remember it. I remember who pitched (Harvey vs Strausberg), but nothing else stands out about the park. That probably means something. I love the area around the STL ballpark too. The park itself was decent, not great. My favorite spot to stay there is the Hyatt right next to the arch with the one side of the building having a clear view of the Mississippi River, the park, and the arch.

The views are amazing at T-Mobile but the gate we went into went through the gift shop and it was terrible. Super crowded and slow to move through and if the intent was to encourage shopping it encouraged the opposite. I just wanted to get the hell out of there.

Here's the next set of observations from ballparks I've been to. These are post-Camden, open-air ballparks just below my top tier (see first post of the thread). Busch Stadium: The ballpark is really good - just a step below the top-tier ones. The iconic Gateway Arch (which is walking distance from Busch) is part of the backdrop. Public street-level view inside the ballpark in left field. It's a great way to enter the stadium. You're on the city street, you go through security and the scan your tickets and boom - you're right in the outfield concourse. The Ballpark Village is great. They pack a lot into a relatively small area. It's not just bars and restaurants, but a big public plaza/open space, and a Cardinals museum. One or two bars at the baseball village have rooftop seats from where fans can watch the game. They do a good job of recognizing Cardinals history outside the park. Lots of statutes and a Cardinals "walk of fame". I'd say the biggest downside of Busch is that the rest of downtown St. Louis is pretty dead outside of the ballpark and baseball village area. Hopefully they can breathe some life into it. Citi Field: Again, another really good ballpark. The Jackie Robinson rotunda, which is an homage to Ebbets Field, is cool. They have a nice "bridge" in the outfield concourse. Concessions were very good. I was able to get there from my hotel in Manhattan via subway no problem with the train stop right at the stadium. The downside is that there's not much right around the stadium as far as I remember. I believe they're now planning to build a stadium district on the parking lots. Nationals Park: Of this set of ballparks I've been to, this one is the most "meh". It's a nice enough stadium and I didn't dislike it. There are ones I'd rank lower, but it's not that memorable IMO and not as good as the other two I listed above. I liked the entrance from centerfield that lets you into a centerfield plaza. One thing I liked about the concessions is that they features an item that's a local specialty from the city of the visiting team. I was there more than 10 years ago, and they may have built up the area outside the ballpark since then. Transit access was good. My hotel was in Arlington, VA and I was able to take the Metro to about a block from Nats Park no problem.

Tiger Stadium was a hitters park and Old Comiskey was a pitchers park. I was surprised when Comerica Park opened. It was built for pitchers unlike Tiger stadium. If Miguel Cabrera would have hit in Tiger Stadium his hitting records would have been even better. One White Sox historian (Richard Lindberg) has always claimed it was a mistake to build the upper decks in the outfield at Old Comiskey in 1927. Those upper decks made it even more of a pitchers park.

Cavernous. Literally. Seats were under playing field in CF. Big stadium, good location, was super easy to park and walk compared to old comiskey. There was some famous pedestrian bridge that you walked over to get into it. I haven't been to a ton of stadiums: Citi Field, NYS, YS, Camden, Rate, Old Comiskey, Rogers Centre, Twinkie Dome, Safeco/Tmobile, Comerica. Twinkie Dome was a fucking joke compared to the Skydome / Rogers Centre. Twinkie Dome felt like they were playing in like an arcade video game, the baseball would bounce absurdly high on any sort of hit into the concrete. Comerica looks good on TV with the backdrop but has awful sightlines. Both times I went there I had a stiff neck from trying to watching home plate, down both the LF and RF box seats, the Rate is better honestly. T-Mobile is pretty generic too other than the roof and setting by Puget Sound and the piped in music never ends. You know what stadium I really liked? Citi Field. Walking in and you get the Jackie Robinson area and then in the upper deck you are pretty close to the action and it's mostly open concourse with great views of the NYC skyline. 100% better than NYS imo.

I’ve been to all of the NL central and AL central parks minus KC, plus Seattle and Colorado. All visits to current ballparks. Loved them all. Yes even Wrigley. PNC far and away the best one out of them all however. Oh, I didn’t like progressive field. Hate that place. Cleveland sucks. I stood outside Petco while visiting San Diego but it was the offseason and I didn’t experience a game there so I don’t count that one. And unfortunately the one time I was in KC and could have caught a game, the Royals weren’t playing at home.

Yeah, that makes no sense whatsoever. Not only is this totally inconsistent with the affordability issue, but there are likely only 20k to 25k seats in the 100 level. I don't know the exact number, but it's no more than that. Let's say it's 22k seats in the 100 level plus 3k in the Club Level. Is the argument then that the Sox attendance ceiling should be around 25k and any fans beyond that are not real fans, are total suckers for buying those tickets, and have absolutely no right to complain about their ballpark experience? On games that should be drawing bigger crowds, our ballpark design should only give a s%*# about the first 25k and screw everyone else.? Wonderful! That'll help us grow our fan base!

Booser simply because he was with the White Sox last year and I do not recall much of the last three years going well.

Ian Seymour? Definitely not Booser he rocked.

I have on and off over the years, but haven't bought it in a while.

When I talk about sitelines, this is a big one. Are your seats facing the pitching mound/home plate?

Them's fightin words

Unlike several other parks I've been to, the 100 level seats at Rate Field do NOT angle toward the infield as you get past 1B and 3B down toward the foul poles. In fact, they had to come back about 10 years later and slightly angle the seats toward the infield in an attempt to correct this design flaw, but it's still not as good as other parks where the actual sections start to angle toward the infield. The outfield concourse is great, but TBH, I've been to other ballparks with a great outfield concourse that have a lot of area to stand and socialize too. This feature doesn't set Rate Field apart some other stadiums. People like to say the 100 infield concourse is great because you can see the game. Honestly, I don't get it. The area right behind the seats in the concourse is so filled with kiosks and food stands that I find it hard to see any game action from the infield area concourse. I had a much better view of the field from the PNC Park lower concourse. Plus unlike other ballparks, there aren't big screen monitors showing the game while I'm trying to get food. The concessions stands have tiny monitors showing the game that look like they'd be too small even in someone's home office, but that's basically it. I'd say one good thing about the 100 level at Rate Field is that the rows are only 8 seats wide. I don't know if any other park matches that. The Fan Deck and ivy on it are cool too.

😮 This is a weak attempt at a personal attack!

Been playing for the last decade or so. Usually buy every other year. Love it

Not at all lazy. Very much the same era, and the same type of experience. Went there the last season it was open, and it kind of felt like home, aka Comiskey Park.

It is a basic ballpark, with all of the normal amenities. There is literally nothing special, or stand out about it. There is no special experience, unique design, or oddity about the park that makes it stand out amongst its peers. Literally the thing that stands out more to me than anything else when compared to the other parks I have been to, is parking for cars. That's it. All of the things that other designers learned and improved on since this park was created are stark. -Entering at the top of the 100 section, versus the absolute bottom of the stadium. -Non-standardized walls and dimensions, including things like outfield seating designs. -Not completely removing the most upper levels from the ballpark experiences at the 100 level. -Some special attraction -Field level premium experiences -Ballpark village -Integration into a skyline -More integration for rideshare and transit experiences This current iteration of Sox Park is a sterile island in a neighborhood completely disconnected from the ballpark. We can do better next time.

How was Tiger Stadium compared to Old Comiskey? They always seemed similar to me, but maybe that was just a lazy comparison.

Municipal/Memorial, it was a huge stadium not meant for baseball with terrible winds off the lake. Late 80’s, it made 2023-25 White Sox games look like Margi Gras, só no wonder “Major League” used that team Once we sat in the LF bleachers and serenaded Jeffrey Leonard to his annoyance, think he was on Milwaukee Maybe 2000-3000 in stands second Arlington Park tried to overplay the Natural soundtrack, but all I remember was the stifling heat at both facilities First time to Three Rivers, got a bunch of free BP balls from Bobby Bonilla Second time sat in box seats at PNC with Chuck and Bruce Tanner Probably favorite memory was befriending Scott Radinsky and Dominican RHP Jose Ventura when they came to the Quad Cities (hanging out in bullpen) and were playing for SouthBend….we really shocked the suburban neighbors bringing Ventura who was about 6’4” with black horned-rim glasses to play pickup basketball in front of my house at midnight Then we went to a number of games in that magical 1990 season for free at Old Comiskey through will call/comp tickets from Radinsky….had Sosa too, the late (and gangly) Carlos Martinez, favorites in late 80s were Eddie Williams and Ivan Calderon, eventually Lance 1 Dog Johnson vividly remember a snow delay in April back then as well Tucson for ST Tokyo Dome Kyocera Dome Want to go to Hokkaido someday, really cool newer stadium

Nice try. You probably bought that carpet from the Target on Roosevelt instead of somewhere in Bridgeport.

Can type out details later but: Citi Field The Cell (this is its name as far as I'm concerned). Obvious bias, but the concourse, dining options and lower level boost it hard. Busch Stadium Chase Field Fenway Park Camelback Ranch (Spring Training) Sloan Park (Spring Training) Tempe Diablo Stadium (Spring Training) Kauffman Stadium New Yankees Stadium