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Alvarez would be an awesome return. He's the guy that I'd want in any deal. The Astros already have Tucker up and their OF situation crowded so they might be willing to move him he is going to be a star when he arrives.

This. Certain fans here are completely delusional. This team lost 100 games WITH Abreu last year we have holes everywhere on the roster. Next year we should have a better idea where the holes are and what we have with most of the prospects. The more capital we can acquire between now and next year the better position we will be when we are ready to compete. I hope these Abreu rumors are true.

Did you read the article at all? It said imports are down 13 percent and US companies are started large scale plans to modernize and expand. Both those things will lead to lower prices and competition of US MADE steel. Seems like the tariffs are working as intended despite some shortterm pain.

Whatever they did you can't argue with the results that farm is stacked from top to bottom. Whole lot of jealously happening.

I just hope whatever we do there is a clear plan in place and we aren't just spending money because we have it.

I don't see him getting more the 1 or 2 years. There is no need for teams to commit big money for someone like Marwin when they can go out and trade for someone like Diaz for little trade expenditure and go year to year.

I hope you right but Kenny Williams doesn't normally operate that way

Kluber just knows how to pitch he reminds me alot of Roy Halladay. However, Sale was much younger when he was moved. Kluber is already 32 and will be 33 when the season begins next year. Sure Kluber has three years but that takes him through ages 33, 34, and 35. That isn't as near as valuable as Sales 28, 29, 30.

I keep hearing that but have yet to read anyteam being seriously linked close to that figure. Boras likes to plant stories in the media to establish value I doubt any team signs him for that amount of money but it's worth a shot I guess. I'd just move on because eventhough I'm interested it's for 1/8 and the time it takes Boras to lower his price we the market will be dry. There will be 1B/DH/LF who will accept 1 yr deals.

Having multiple balls in the air is retarded that kind of shit is what causes you to spend 80 million on Wei Yin Chen because the top FA wouldn't take your money. Have your targets and if you don't get them move on and goto plan B. Personally plan B would be my plan A as this roster is nowhere ready to compete.

Eovaldi had a 3.33 ERA last season for the sox and a 2.88 FIP. He has a career 3.88 FIP. Even if puts up an ERA in line with his career FIP numbers they are not moving him to the bullpen. If he struggles or experiences health issues sure it's possible. I like Smoltz as an analyst he comes up with interesting stuff but the Sox did not sign Eovaldi to close. That is not to say plans can't change but comeon.

Wow this thread has turned into a dumpster fire. Well at least noone has accused someone of racism yet

That sucks would have been a nice get. Where is HAHN? Lol

Maybe if he struggles at some point but they aren't moving him there otherwise.

SMH Most teams try the opposite to create value. Posters here would rather lose value I guess. Brantley is worth a lot less as a 1B then OF.

Help is on the way?

Agreed what I was saying was the package Goldie went this year for is what I expected to get for Abreu last offseason and at the time Abreu had an extra year. Sorry if I made that confusing. Anyways it's too bad the offer hasn't leaked so we would have some idea of his value

Yuck. Are we getting the Harper from 2015 or the one from 2016-2018 because after 2015 he has averaged 2.5 WAR. He plays also LF which is a non premium position. I can't believe I'm saying this but I actually would prefer Machado. At least he plays kind of plays SS and 3B.

Abreu in 2017 looked like a legit star. He also had two years of control versus Goldie one. The time to move him was then it's clear Abreu value has declined the question is by how much. I honestly have no idea I'd like to think he still has value around the league teams continue to show interest but what those offers are is anyones guess unless they get leaked. I posted what I'd like to think he's worth he's definitely not worthless as some have suggested,

Probably not but I don't subscribe to the notion we couldn't get anything for him. Look at what Goldie went for. Now Abreu is coming off a down season but I'd accept a package centered around May, Alvarez, Cartaya. Going into last season what Goldie went for was sort of what I expected Abreu value as. Two top 100 guys (or in this case Weaver) one interesting guy (or in this case comp B). After his down season I probably would want 1 top 100. Two interesting guys. Interesting to see what the market is.

Yeah it sort of is what it is though. If he didn't have those surgeries he'd have gotten more and his contract would likely look like Corbins so there is risk and upside. I would have probably liked it one less year if I was a fan of the Redsox but it's not outrageous it was what I was expecting if not slightly less. I think I had 70 million. Corbins deal ontheotherhand....

I'd rather have neither but if the choice in this market is Eovaldi 4/68 or Corbin 6/140 well it's an easy decision. I'd take Eovaldi on pure stuff alone unless he blows out his arm he won't be a bad contract.

Of course noone likes the reality of a rebuild when it happens but about the worst thing we can do is go for it when the roster has been torn down and the kids we've traded and drafted are pretty much all still in the minors. It isn't about disappointment it's about not becoming the next Orioles because when you go for it you are stuck with these guys for 4-5 years. You don't get to just say well I wanted to go for it and it didn't work. The guys are on the roster well beyond when you figure that fact our. Then it sort of becomes a snowball effect the bad moves beget more bad moves and you start trading from your minor leagues because you don't have the payroll flexibility to do anything different. Take a look at the ML roster. There are holes everywhere and even the positions that are filled there is a ton of uncertainty with respect to health and/or future performance. Unless the plan is to spend 200+ million like the Redsox there will be big gaping holes throughout the roster. So I guess my question is and has always been for those who want to sacrifice the financial flexibility what is the plan beyond the immediancy of signing Harper or Machado or whatever FA catches your eye. Then what? Do we keep Abreu too? Do you believe that gets you to the playoffs? I don't. I don't think there is a path currently with what is on the roster and what I think is available to us payroll wise. I'm just being real. So I'd rather use this year to the fullest and get as much prospect capital as we can so that we when these guys do start to get called up and we are in a position to go for it we are in the best position possible.

stole mine. I think they'll go with either Avilian (pref) or Cedeno.

Seems like a good time to move Abreu. Nice return for the Diamondbacks