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SoxMachine article: White Sox seek a more perfect union

Lee and Ramos were pretty much starting by May. The last third of the season had Lee, Baldwin, Sosa, Vargas, Amaya, and Fletcher starting. Burke, Martin and Cannon were in the rotation with starts from Bush and Nastrini. 2024 Chicago White Sox Lineups and Defense | Baseball-Reference.com

Tim Hill. Soroka also got a big raise from last year, but he wasn't a free agent signing last year.

If Robert gets traded, I'd bet Taylor stays in his stated role, backup CF, short side platoon for Benintendi, and maybe Fletcher/DeLoach/Colas starts CF against righties. Or something. Maybe it's more of a 1/2 and 1/2 sharing of CF with one of the 3 LHHs. They have no high-minors outfield "depth" outside of 4-5 AAAA guys, at this point. If I started crushing on Dominic Fletcher's ceiling, you and 3-4 others would tackle me and tell me exactly how bad he is. You know what you have. He's replacement level.

Colas, Fletcher, Julks and DeLoach are replacement level outfielders at this point. Cal Mitchell's in that group, too. I'm not expecting guys like Veras, Tatum, Burke, Hogan/Logan to blow past them, either. When they trade Robert, Tauchman, Slater, .... Taylor(?), there will be 2 months of PAs for whomever has the hottest bat. Then, maybe Zavala, Saucke and B. Monty become dots on the horizon this time next year.

But really, if Robert rakes in 3 weeks of spring training, how much better are offers going to be after a boffo 1st half? I really believe that anybody trading for him is trading for this season. The injury concerns will always be baked into his value. So, while there's 3 years of "control", it comes with 2 winters of front offices holding their breath.

None of this means anything. Here's what Liptak wrote to start this whole thing off, again: "It ($100M contract) will not happen under JR, it goes against his core philosophy. He does not feel that any baseball player is worth that kind of money which is why he has done everything he could over the decades to get a salary cap installed in MLB." It did happen. They offered Wheeler $125M, which was more than he accepted from the Phillies. Do you think you're impressing people by lying and digging in to defend a lie? I guess you make your own choices about what's important to you. Lying seems to be a priority in your activity, here. I have no idea why you keep using the word "flexing". You're trying to change the subject to avoid being wrong. Telling the truth and offering evidence of it isn't "flexing". Benintendi's contract did exactly what a bunch of mopes here cry for. He was given much more in money and years than his production called for, just to get a player signed. You think the Sox should have bid against themselves and overpaid to get Wheeler. Yes, I agree that Benintendi's contract is a pathetic and embarrassing overpay of a player just to silence people like yourself who scream whatever sports radio tells you to want. Instead of flexing over payroll, you should evaluate your own behavior. Why do you want the White Sox to grossly overpay for substandard players? Maybe you actually wanted Michael A. Taylor signed for 3/$45M, just to prove they "want to win". That would be stupid.

Posting evidence to disprove BS isn't really "flexing". You're just proving my statement. This is like the 3rd or 4th time that somebody has posted news stories where Wheeler verifies that the Sox offered more money than the Phillies, and he took less to go to Philadelphia. And sure enough, next time, you guys dig in and play these pedantic word games, and deflect about Benintendi's contract, all in the service of not admitting that the Sox have offered $100M contracts to players. Just admit it and move on.

Show any evidence of that, please.

It's not an anonymous leak. Wheeler and his agent have verified that bit. I've given you 3 examples of that. Your hatred is so deep-seated that you argue with reality.

You have issues understanding English sentences as they're written. I don't care if you trust the Sox or not. I have told you numerous times to please criticize Getz and the Sox. I want you to do that. Do you understand that sentence? Criticize the White Sox as often as you can. You picking on your own interpretation of me liking a player on the sox isn't criticizing or not trusting the White Sox. It's you having issues with people NOT complaining about and trusting the team.

AJ Pierzynski tells him, "You took less money", and Wheeler doesn't correct him. It's really weird that you think Rick Hahn has this power over all of humanity to turn us all into zombie slaves and parrot his narrative. Here's another news story where Wheeler says he took less money: Phillies, Zack Wheeler discussing contract extension – NBC Sports Philadelphia

Irony has nothing to do with this. I literally posted a video of Wheeler talking about taking less money from the Phillies. Then 3 or 4 of you guys just keep posting deflecting drive bys that have nothing to do with anything. I look forward to this exact argument happening again in two weeks when the same people will dig in and try to qualify their wrong statements. And really, Dick. I'm pretty quick to admit to being wrong when shown.

These guys will do or say anything just to not admit their inane narrative is BS.

Why do you think he didn't? He wanted to play in Philadelphia. Throwing extra money and years at players to make them come here is how we have Benintendi with his great contract. How's that working out for you?

Here's Zach Wheeler talking about it with AJ Pierzynski. You guys keep talking about threads being ruined with the same argument over and over. Stop ruining them. Accept reality, and move on.

There is no ambiguity. The White Sox offered Wheeler more money. He went to the Phillies, instead. Report: Zack Wheeler turned down more money from White Sox to sign with Phillies

And Wheeler and Wheeler's agent also verified.

rotation" Cannon, Burke, Martin, Perez, Iriarte bullpen Karinchak, Anderson, B. Wilson, S. Smith, Booser*, Varland, Ellard*, Murfee c - Thaiss/Lee 1B - Vaughn 2B - Drury 3B - Vargas SS - Baldwin OF - Benintendi, Taylor, Tauchman/Slater DH - Sosa bench - Rojas, Colas Anderson loses the closer spot to Karinchak after a few weeks. Thorpe starts the year rehabbing in AAA. Perez, B. Wilson, and S. Smith can't be optioned. Oh, and Robert gets traded. Edit: whoops, had one too many bullpenners. Took out Shuster.

The Tigers started 7 of their playoff starters in the final game of the season. Dude, you're just making s%*# up at this point.

You know what...nevermind.

When asked, hypothetically, if he would ever move into a front office (no, he's not a manager of a staff), if a team like the White Sox came calling, would he be tempted by the challenge? (Great opportunity to propose and implement new ideas.) Gave an emphatic "no" to a question of whether candidates were crazy to take a job in the organization. He said there were worse situations (Wilpon Mets, Angelos family, The Angels). He doesn't know exactly how involved Reinsdorf is right now, but.... KL: At least right now, I don't get the sense that Reinsdorf is doing anything that is going to actively prevent them from getting better. Whereas I think that's happening with the Angels right now. JM: Until it comes time to sign a hundred million dollar player, and then... KL: Yes. They've got a minute until they actually get back there, and we'll see who's actually running the club at that point.

Dubious of Colson Montgomery. Likes Noah Schultz. Podcast: Keith Law stops by to talk 2025 White Sox farm system