SoxBlanco

If the Sox are very confident that Thompson will never amount to anything, the time to trade him is right now. However, you aren’t going to get a young prospect for him straight up. So you make this trade, hope Horn pitches well enough, and then you flip him for a young prospect. It would basically be flipping Thompson for said prospect, but the only way to get there is this indirect route. I have no idea if that’s the actual plan here, but that’s what I’m going to tell myself to feel better about the trade.

Totally agree. You can never know that for certain. You can feel strongly that somebody might never become a major league player, but you can never know for sure. However, the job of the front office is to make moves like this if you feel strongly. The person I quoted says it makes zero sense to make a trade like this. I was simply pointing out that the trade DOES make sense IF you feel strongly that Mena will never amount to anything.

Unless you are confident the pitcher traded will never amount to anything.

I think what he was trying to say is that you claimed Mena falls into the category of pitching prospects that we have quite a few of. So in that regard, we do have a surplus of those types of guys. So why not turn one of them into an outfielder when we have very few OF prospects?

Pretty crazy that about half of our opening day 26-man roster has been acquired in the last three months. I like it.

Hypothetical (unlikely, I know): Sox are at .500 record wise and hold a 3 game lead in the horrible division in July. What do they do with Cease? I'm not asking what YOU would do. I'm asking what you think Getz will do.

Grizzly Adams DID have a beard!

Do “inside the box” ideas go in the regular Cease Trade thread and “outside the box” ideas go in this thread? Just wondering in case I have a trade idea in the future.

I saw that and thought, "This has to be caulfield." Sure enough, it was.

Are you trying to claim you don’t play against your own division more than the other AL teams?

Luery is the utility man.

Just out of curiosity, if Cease was a free agent this offseason, what do you think his contract would look like? Just looking for your best guess.

Agreed. He’s not good. But I don’t think we are trying to sign good players.

The utility role is not good for young prospects because we would want them getting as much playing time as possible. I have no problem paying Whit to be that guy, even if it’s a slight overpay. Veteran guy, leadership, good clubhouse presence, and can play multiple positions.

Is it possible we get an actual outfielder to play RF (sign or Cease trade) and then sign Whit for the “Leury” role?

I expected to open this thread and see a single sentence saying, “It still sucks.”

I agree, but is this Cease related? Or just more of a general thought in the most active thread right now?

This whole argument reminds me of Matthew Berry’s fantasy football draft manifesto every year where he talks about how you can take stats and make any single player look good or bad. In the end, all that matters is what your gut is telling you about how the player will do this upcoming season. Or in this case, how do other GMs think Cease will perform over the next couple of years? Balta, out of curiosity, how do you think Cease will do over the course of the next two seasons?

Definitely. We should try that.

If we had to play a game tomorrow, what would our lineup look like?

I’ll go out on a limb and say this lane does better than the shít we witnessed last year. I’ll go with 64-98.

If we're going to get somebody to come back to play RF, might as well snag Dye. Actually, we should just see if Dye, Iguchi, and AJ want to come out of retirement. Three positions of need, and even at an old age, they would still probably outperform what we've been getting at those positions lately.

Yeah, we our going to be bad.

I didn’t really follow the prospects we got in the trades last year. How did Quero look?

I think the trade is made at the winter meetings.