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The irony of this is you liked the post that literally set jimmy off on the "go fuck yourself" tantrum and now somehow I'm disgruntled for asking why he overreacted. Jack, you crack me up.

I'll note that a part of the amazing privilege of having speculatory contract offerings leaked on soxtalk is that no one can question your overall point or call into question the purpose of that information reaching you. I'm sorry it was so hard for you to read someone on a forum disagree with you or question the purpose of the information. I hope you can recover from that hardship. Edit: looks like you got the overwhelming attention you were seeking with this post so I hope that makes up for your pain and suffering.

Being used as a mouth piece does not mean what you are implying at all. It means you're being used to push a narrative (knowingly or not.) Most everyone who leaks baseball free agent rumors are by definition being used as a mouthpiece for something or someone. Don't like it? Then don't leak supposed contract offers during free agency.

When have I ever told anyone what to post, or attacked them for it? I get it, the old boys club gets offended at sox talk when any "insider" is questioned. I can say something is BS if I chose to. The concept of insider in professional sports has always made me laugh honestly. Break one story in 10 years and then speculate on 1000 that never come true and somehow that authority should never be questioned, and certainly shouldn't be disagreed with at soxtalk. Otherwise everyone gets very defensive. I have my opinions same as you. Difference between me and you is I won't run to gang up on people because they disagree with me. I couldn't care less who posts what. I have my thoughts and opinions and I'm not here to beg someone to sprinkle some very pointless speculation for me to consume. I look at what's happened, not the fake what could have happened stories. Unlike you I don't delete posts that disagree with me or deem rude, and I don't threaten posters to post how I want or else.

If the guy is asking for 6/150 and you offer 4/76 then hear no and apparently decide to go in a different direction and sign a bunch of utility guys and relievers instead thats not only not a fair offer, but its not a serious one.

What do you consider seriously pursued? Sox haven't been legit linked to conforto, so would you say they didn't seriously pursue him if they lose out on him? Most of your point is pretty subjective imo.

Again, I never said the information wasn't true. Never said you didn't vet information. It's literally impossible for you to know the reason for why said contract you posted was leaked to anyone in order for it to make its way to you. I have my opinions as to why these values have been leaked and made their way to journalists with some White Sox affiliation (however direct or indrect), and you have your opinions. Neither of us can speak authoritatively as to the purpose of that contract making it's way to someone like you, but we can both speculate and agree to disagree as to that purpose. Based on the way most off-seasons have gone over the past 4 years, I like to think the outcomes tend to agree with what I believe but most people look for confirmation bias to support their opinions so who knows how right or wrong those thoughts are.

The reason hitting in Colorado is easier actually has to do with their being so much more square footage in the outfield. The ball carrying further can often be negated by the far fences, but there's so much more real estate to drop the ball in which leads to higher BABIPs, averages and more doubles, singles and triples. The difficulty for playing in COlorado as your home park is that balls break differently there (less). You are practicing and playing half your games there so your eyes and body get more used to that break. This means when you travel, the movement on pitches becomes more difficult to adjust to which is why you see even more stark home/road splits. As players move out of Colorado permantly they adjust again to the break and movement of the pitches which is why they may be better hitters in Colorado but it's not as signficant as you'll see by viewing their Home/Road splits when they're in Colorado.

And to clarify, I simply named James because he leaked the most recent offer yesterday and insinuated it was a competitive offer; I joked at the time that the White Sox off-season cycle is now complete as soon as Conforto goes somewhere else. Given that Conforto turned down 110 million or whatever it was 16 months ago, obviously the White Sox reported opening offer wasn't competitive regardless of how much someone may thought Conforto hurt his value last year.

1. Who/when did I say that was your intent? 2. How could you possibly be certain about a White Sox offer if the information didn't initially leak from within the White Sox somehow? Even if it came down to you through another source, that would actually justify what I laid out even more. 3. Everyone who signs late in an off-season isn't "asking for too much money." Either way, no idea why you got so offended in the first place.

Woh... Sorry that you can't see through the process. Really no need to start swearing at people and get angry pal. Hilarious how offended you get for pointing out that a supposed non-competitive offer made months ago didn't signify a serious push by the Sox, and that it was not in fact Conforto's fault that he was asking for "too much money" as you have been pushing for the past week. Release your thoughts and your position and expect people to give there thoughts. Difference is I won't stoop so low as to start swearing and getting angry at you for your opinions or thoughts.

And no one said the information is fake, the point is the Sox made an offer early in the off-season, according to our great source, that had zero chance of being accepted and then moved on to other assets. They can claim they gave it the ole college try and the insiders will eat it up, they'll even say it's Conforto's fault for asking for too much money. Conforto will go on to sign for some amount of money the insiders deemed to be too much and the world will go on.

Fake information? Soxtalk? The Sox give information to their insiders who pass information around amongst each other and it reaches the Sox fanbase. Do you think that anyone with the Sox leaking the 4/75 offer to Conforto is doing it out of the kindness of their heart to keep the insiders "in the loop?" What do you think would be the purpose of leaking a years and dollar value to anyone is? Especially when the offer is likely short of what would be needed? lol, how many off-seasons do you need to watch this dog and pony show before you realize it's a process we have gone through pretty much every off-season since the rebuild began? Sox been sitting at the table so long without ordering anything that they're close to being charged with loitering.

I agree with you 100% here, and I think that's actually the scariest part of it all. They geniunely think that the way they spend money is effective, efficient and intelligent.

It's literally how pretty much every off-season has gone since I joined Soxtalk. You can pretend it doesn't happen, but I could go back and bump all the corresponding points to support each point. Sox won't sign Conforto. If there offer was good, the team themselves will leak it to someone to show that they tried (most embarrassing thing about the SOx by far is that they're the only team that constantly leaks their offers post-acceptance to claim they offered more or similar). If their offer wasn't competitive, which it won't be if there is one at all, there will be some leak from Sox "connected" people claiming Conforto was way overpaid and the Sox were smart for not upping their competitive offer.

No offense to James, but at this point he's likely being used as a mouth piece by the organization to claim they made a competitive offer and Conforto is asking for too much money. It's called the cycle of the White Sox offseasons on Soxtalk and the internet in general. It always goes this way. Off-season starts and Sox appear to be aware of their needs Sox fans tie them to marquee free agents at said positions of need Speculation grows without any hard evidence James or some other insider claims the Sox made a competitive offer, they then applaud the offer, and blame the player for asking for too much money Player signs elsehwere for said "too much money." Insiders and etc spread message that no one could expect the Sox to spend at that level, it's "too much money" Off-season over

Players who hit in Colorado have a large disadvantage on the road. It's far more than a home field advantage.

This is a really creative structure, I like it. Lot of money for a guy who has been declining but maybe he was just banged up

The cycle of soxtalk offseasons will now be complete when conforto signs elsewhere.

It's Soxtalk that has this idea the Sox want Conforto; honestly, they've never leaked any interest. Machado was frustrating because they were talking about being all-in with him. With Conforto they've been trying to tell you the exact opposite but everyone refuses to listen.

Villar got 4.5 million, 6 million guaranteed. Lol

@Chicago White Sox's guy with another brilliant take. 5 year contract with 4 opt outs lol

Yeah, I wasn't speaking for you. I remember your thoughts on them not having space. Also, I doubt Sanchez is DH'ing everyday, and the Twins probably would have no problem moving Kiriloff to 1st base. Larnach is far from a sure thing and wouldn't be shocked to see him moved in a deal for an arm. The Twins aren't exactly stacked in the OF. I doubt they sign Conforto after this, that said I don't think there are people "blocking him" given that none of the guys sans Buxton are better than Conforto. All in all, probably a pointless conversation as they chose Correa and would be shocking if they signed two. just a frustrating morning. Have a good one.

How do the twins have 5 outfielders? Thinking Brent rooker would/should block conforto is like thinking Engel should. Engel probably better, honestly.

What stopping the twins from trading kiriloff, or even more likely moving him to first base? Twins have showed more drive to improve their team than the Sox. Seems unlikely they sign conforto now but honestly who knows. No offense pal but you were chirping off about how the narrative had changed and sox have record payroll so everyone should stop being critical before the lockout. Cheerleading the Harrison signing. Sorry, im not a fan of a million dollar home furnished by the dollar store. Sox spent 47 million this off-season and are arguably worse. Amazing