Look at Ray Ray Run

I think an AH shared sports complex and entertainment area would actually be pretty awesome..

Rizzo can run and build an org. He would be a great add.

I will never stop being amazed at all the excuses made for Rick Hahn.

Cali, I'm telling you that it doesn't matter what Jerry wants or thinks, he's a business man. If I can model and project an roi based on these investments that exceeds the roi under the current structure, Jerry would buy in. The job of management is to push and sell these ideas to make them viable and feasible in ownerships eyes. I deal with this daily. C-suit and BOD's are hesitant to make overhauls or change. My job is to assess exposure/liability, identify gaps, and overhaul systematic structures to realign a business or process in a way that is beneficial for the organization. The most common thing I hear is we tried this a few years ago or etc and it was shot down so we stopped/gave up. This breeds complacency which is what we saw with the Sox. It's not that people like Jerry refuse to change, it's that the people around them accept the status quo and that permeates onto anyone who comes in below those leaders.

Agreed. Problem is he learned from two crappy systems but maybe he has fresh ideas and can overhaul things. Better than Rick or Dayton in charge.

I'm right there with you. Rooting for better but will literally take scraps. I hate "experience" generally speaking in a space like baseball. Too much experience in that space almost guarantees you're a dinosaur. And you need to be a trend setter not a follower in that type of industry and too much experience hampers that imo. I'd rather give a new set of eyes a shot than some retread with a inconsistent history. I'd probably draw that line somewhere around rizzo.

I never said you had to play, I was merely asking what qualifications were in herbs mind.

Yeah, very unsure as to what herb makes one qualified for these roles. Getz worked his way up through the system same as others. You can argue with his results and etc and think he's not deserving, but not sure how a lawyer with no baseball knowledge or background beyond contracts is more deserving or qualified than a former big leaguer who worked in the scouting space. The WORST thing about chris Getz, ironically enough, is he's tied to Rick Hahn.

One thing you notice as you rise the corporate and financial ladders is a lot of people you've gone past are a hell of a lot smarter than the people you are joining and bumping shoulders with closer to the top

Rick Hahn has been here for literal decades. The Sox cut their old school scouting budget but then turned out they spent nothing on analytics, tech or new school techniques. Hahn was a bot, which makes all the Hahnbots that much more understandable.

Yeah, I see that everyday in my job. Nature of what I do, and it's bad management. Guiding ownership and executives is a part of managing and how you present ideas and budgets and etc are a big component of that job. Ownership can remain as archaic as they want, and management needs to present the change in a relatable fashion.

No business man cares about where it's spent as long as the return is there. This notion that reinsdorf wouldn't trade 5 million in payroll for 2 million in an analytics department is such nonsense and classic Hahn excuse making.

Ding ding ding.

Rick Hahn sure is a good pr manager is what I've learned.

Hahn has set the bar so low that almost anyone is an upgrade.

Yeah, I'm holding out hope that moore is joining as an advisor in the search - not as the pres of ops. That said, him and tlr leading a search would likely need a lot of luck to result in a positive outcome.

I tend to think this report is true, but it is really odd. It would imply that Jerry has been having these conversations prior to the termination eith someone like Moore. It also just feels like a weird fit. That said, who knows. Maybe Jerry is his buddy

Yeah, why say interim and name candidates. The concerning part is tlr is and always was going to be involved which doesn't bode well. He needed to hire someone outside to manage a search.

The diamondbacks of 5 years ago and the 2020 royals, who wouldn't want to replicate that structure???

Dayton Moore is a weirdo but he's certainly had more success than Hahn. The problem with Getz is Hahn likes him. No idea what Getz would do if in charge, and the president hire is more important imo. Getz could be fine in the right spot, hard to say. People say sox have no developmental stories and that's not really true.

If Dayton moore is pres of baseball ops, that would be fucking hilarious.

They could promote him up to President of Ops mid-season. It's not unheard of.

Yup and we can say what we will of AK, I liked the process and still like him in his role. Lonzo really changed everything from that plan design. If sox go full external and hire someone of similar ilk in baseball I'd be ecstatic.

Someone needs to stay on and keep the lights on during a search.

It actually makes perfect sense for Jerry to invest in a top of the line organization top to bottom now that he's planning on selling. Milk the last bit out of the organization before he moves on/passes.