Look at Ray Ray Run

Because we're not talking about distance, we're talking about the actual states and their make ups and demographics and politics etc. Moving an Illinois/Chicago team to Indiana is a much bigger change than moving to the suburbs or a NY team moving to NJ. At least in my opinion.

New York and New Jersey are a little different than Illinois and Indiana. Those other examples aren't really the same.

The Bears would be committing brand suicide by moving the team out of state.

Honestly, this post basically says: The bad things you don't believe are actually bad, and the things that are OK are actually good. I'm not sure if it's because we're 3+ months removed from the season or what, but the scenarios being drawn up here are basically... everyone gets better, no one gets worse, and those who were not good surprise and are actually good. As of right now, the Sox have the 4th lowest projected WAR in baseball (NOT BY STEAMER, since STEAMER is not a way to project actual team WAR). This idea that they're some good-luck away from competing just doesn't add up to me. They might/should be more entertaining next year, but this is still one of the worst teams in MLB. Could they make some more adds and maybe get out of the bottom 5? I guess it's possible, but seems unlikely. Additionally, unlike some here I don't trust Getz to make any quality moves since his history is that of not making many quality moves. The only quality players he's acquired came from trading a top 3 pitcher in the game below his peak value (IMO), and someone he picked up in a Rule 5 draft. Almost every other move he has made has been a nothing burger and/or a failure.

During their best extended stretch last year they were at about 94... if you shrink it down a little more you can get to 98. The problem with that group is they were terrible defenders (4th worst in baseball) and base runners (3rd worse in baseball), so even if they get that number to 100, you'd be looking at a position group in the top 14 in wRC+ but the bottom 10 of overall value. That said, the position group has much more reason for some optimism than the pitching group, which is bottom 5 in baseball.

He's had one OK year in his career but wouldnt be shocking if this was his last big league contract. Probably low cost and maybe he can eat some innings. But do want to say he's on my "this guy stinks" list.

Especially since Baz stinks.

Love that deal for them. Cabrera always been a stud, just some injury issues. If he stays healthy, I wouldnt be shocked if he was a top 10 pitcher in baseball over next 5 years.

Whatever that means... If youre happy with the Sox payroll and think it signals an investment in winning then i can't help.

Yeah, now that the Sox have the *checks notes* 4th lowest payroll in baseball after the Murakami signing, they must really be all-in!

Luis Robert has been in the rumor mill for 1 1/2 years and all but about 6 months of Chris Getz tenure. Your big picture is the Sox never intended to trade him, and not that the Sox have misread the market for 18 months, which is why they're still holding a bag in the return line years after being dissatisfied with the product. Dec 2024 " Chris Getz told the Chicago Sun-Times’ Daryl Van Schouwen (multiple links) and other reporters that his team has “gotten a lot of interest” in Robert’s services during the Winter Meetings." June 4 2024 "Yes, the White Sox are willing to deal center fielder Luis Robert Jr., who is expected to return from a hip injury this week and is signed through 2027." The last time Robert was "untouchable" was July of 2023 in a hilarious report (looking back on it): "Jon Heyman of the New York Post reports the Sox are prepared to seriously consider offers on all but four players: center fielder Luis Robert Jr., ace Dylan Cease, first baseman Andrew Vaughn and left fielder Eloy Jiménez." Although the above was Hahn. The only time Getz expressed interest in Robert was the off-season after 2023 into 2024. All of the above was actually because Getz wanted to keep Robert motivated by dangling his future by a thread? Or it was Getz trying to make other GM's waste their time calling him?

I, for one, am shocked to hear WestEddy is coming around to the idea that Getz didn't misplay his hand and was actually right and in control all along.

Love is overrated. Malik adds an element the Bears have struggled with because they have a brutal line. Love getting hurt gave packers a better chance vs bears.

Malik > Love

Should move him to the pen, switch him to a 4 seam/cutter pitcher (should be hitting 97 with 92/93 on the cutter out of the bullpen) and have him kill righties. He's always been a good bit better against righties than lefties.

One thing I don't understand in this thread is people talking like "give Kelenic a chance," as if he hasn't gotten 1500 PA's over the past 4+ years. Why should he be treated differently than any other minor league add? A starters job? Guy should be lucky to be a 4th outfielder at this point. Fuller will fix him is becoming a pretty fun MEME though.

I think this guy is going to struggle here, but even still id have no problem signing him. Our payroll is laughable.

Heard sox had the best offer, but the oompa loompa jokes here pushed him to the stros.

Or... hear me out. He's as good as his contract. This place runs as follows. "OH we should sign this guy!" "Oh we NEED this guy." *signs with another team to completely reasonable contract* "Phew, we really dodged a bullet boys. Glad Jerry didnt spend his money on this guy. Gotta save it for the next guy" Rinse and repeat year after year.

Yeah, gotta make sure we save that money for Jerry's kids.

Pedro was small too, but those guys are outliers. Yamamoto was also better at a younger age.

Just realized this guy is likely 5'10.

Signing Mune was a good signing given this team ans where they are. I said as much. It's also very possible he can't make enough contact in the MLB to be viable. It's unlikely that he carries a bad team to the playoffs either way, and unlikely is me being polite. Not sure what you're rambling about with Capra. Shane Smith was the Brewers 41st guy whether that hurts your feelings or not.

Yes, when I was watching the Sox last year lose 100 games again I thought to myself, all this team needs is Anthony Kay, Sean Necomb and Murakami to make up the additional 20 wins+ they need.