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You ask me a question. I tell you the factual answer. You then disagree. Weird stuff.

Yes, it's totally the players call.

Surgery Is the players call. A lot to blame the Sox for, and thorpe stinks anyway, but this isnt one of them.

Hard to blame the team much for off season injury news. That's usually coming from the players camp given.

This trade looked good at the start?

Yes, some of us have done everything we can to pretend last year didn't happen altogether.

Do you have any statistical reason as to why the projections are wrong? The projections aren't assuming anything, you are. I know how bad the rotation is projected to be, and even though I made a prediction that Burke and Smith will be average MLB starters, it's very unlikely that this rotation outperforms last years. Where the Sox should be better, I'd hope, is on the position player side.

The top four starters for the White Sox this year are projected for 4.6 total fWAR (and that's with all with > 120 IP projected!) Garrett Crochet was worth 4.7 fWAR last year. Fedde and Crochet were worth 8.1 fWAR combined.

That said: Bold prediction: West Eddy will say something critical of Getz and WSox and ss2k will not derail the thread in which west eddy does so.

This message board is so toxic, that I remember someone posting articles from Eaton or some other bum ripping Hermie and saying he was the worst in baseball. The guy had basically 2 decades as, by far, the goat for maintaining health, but his routines were bad or archaic or some nonsense. I'll still stand on the reason Chris Sale is still around today was because of how the Sox and Herm managed his shoulder and arm. I don't care if you thought Schneiders programs were from the stone age, results are undeniable. Since he's left too, we've been a dumpster fire.

Sosa can't play shortstop. That would be unfair to him and the pitching staff.

I already said Drury will net 3 WAR this year in another thread so didn't post it here, but I certainly think it's very possible. I do think Robert is going to have a monster year, even though I was light on his projected WAR, so I think the nod probably goes to Luis.

I like Wolkow quite a bit as well, and considered something similar! Would like to see some progress in the swing and miss category before I'm all-in. 46 digit, a 2 WAR position player would be twice as good as last year! Progress! That said, your bold predictions add up to a new loss-record which I do think is very bold as the likelihood of that is very small.

Let's face it, this team sucks so there's a lot of opportunities to be bold in 2025. The difference between this year and last year for me is that last year, there was only one guy I got bold about and that was Crochet. I thought I was bold, and it turned out he was even better than I thought. This year, there are a few more opportunities. I'll start with a few, and open up the floor for Caufield to copy and paste-spam 97 bold-prediction blog posts. 1. Sean Burke and Shane Smith combined for 5+ fWAR: With Burke, it's going to come down to command. If he can't command his fastball, this is toast, but I think both arms have the upside to surprise. I figure I have a shot of hitting on one and slightly missing on the other and still netting 5+. 2. Lenyn Sosa is a top 12 2B: I really wanted to go with top 7 here, but I was a coward. 2B is a weak position, and this puts him right in the 2.2 fWAR range, but more importantly it puts him in the wRC+ class of 105+. Sosa has shown a propensity to adjust and improve in his professional career. He lacks athleticism, but has a strong hitters acumen. 3. Miguel Vargas will not suck: The title says it all. This place is pretty down on Vargas, but there's a lot of failure left in that body before I'll say he's washed. He'll solidify himself as a MLB regular. 4. Grant Taylor will be a top 25 prospect by season's end. Dare I say, he'll out-pitch Hagen Smith. 5. Drew Thorpe will still suck Sell. Auction. Foreclose. Adding one: Garrett Crochet wins the 2025 Cy Young and leads the AL in IP.

He's got 0% chance of being as good as Crochet, but he could be a young Freddy Garcia with a better k/9. Good 4 pitch mix, plus velo, big body and extension.

I'm definitely on team Burke. He's got a shot.

I like our jerseys but they certainly are made more for players. The avg fan wearing one is a tough look!

The amount of false equivalences you've mentioned in this thread is impressive. I've watched tons of bad baseball in my life. That's not the issue here. When the Sox tried to supply a quality product I'd watch all ups and downs. If my favorite musician started releasing albums of them simply humming I wouldn't keep listening out of loyalty.

My original comment? I responded to someone who said they did not understand the "not watching" crowd. I do find it to be an interesting choice to support a product that does not want your support. @Texsox I know the ownership group and, in turn, the front office is not trying. Do you think they are? They're going to have the lowest payroll they've had in 21 years this year. The game's revenue in the past 21 years has more than tripled. Meaning the payroll this year is more than 3 times less than it was 21 years ago, despite being roughly the same gross amount.

Has nothing to do with anger and I'm not sure where I mocked anyone. If the owner of a business doesn't care about the quality of their product, to the point that they are actively hostile towards its quality, why would i continue to support that product? I like movies but that doesn't mean i watch gigli to show support for all movies.

My rule of thumb is generally that I will put time and effort into things of which others are putting time and effort into. Which is why I'd have no problem watching a bunch of kids who aren't professionals play a sport at a lesser level, but won't waste a minute watching a team put together by a bunch of people who don't care.

You comparing an individual game outcome to a team doing everything in their power to put garbage on the field night after night is an interesting choice.

I love baseball, which is exactly why the Sox weren't worth a minute of my time last year.

We all like the White Sox --- we're on a fan forum. You said you didn't understand the never-watches crowd and went on to say you love baseball so you watch every game. The Sox last year were an embarrassment to baseball. As I've gotten older, the value of my time becomes more important and wasting 3+ hours a day on an entertainment product that has spent zero effort in actually entertaining me is not ideal. I'm still incredibly active in my baseball viewing, but I'll watch teams who take the point of providing an entertaining product more seriously; and who have more respect for the game in general.

If you love professional baseball I have no idea how you watch every white sox game right now. They're offensive to the game. I watch games of teams that put an MLB product on the field. You love pain, not baseball.