Look at Ray Ray Run

No matter how you splice it, Getz is terrible at his job and this is an awful baseball team. They've dropped the bar so low that people are "excited" because they actually have a few MLB caliber players. Colson and Teel look like dudes. Smith a nice arm imo. The rest don't belong as full time MLB starters. After that, it's a bunch of having to dream on a guy... or someone that needs to do things they haven't done prior. They should have traded Grant Taylor at deadline with those prices for young controlled relivers or this off season if they're not going to start him. I'd move Cannon to the bullpen. I can't believe people think this team isn't favored to lose 100 games next year without major investment in talent which we all know isn't happening.

When theyre actively selling their shares in the company, it's absolutely a part of the equation.

Yeah, and 2022 while they stated they lost 53 million, the investors themselves saw a 13% gain YoY in valuation (after operating loss) which came in north of 240ish million in total gains.

I think you've been pushing this narrative way too hard. TV deal issue past 18+ months been tough, but theres no chance this team lost money in playoff years. Jerry wouldnt continue to increase payroll if he was losing money badly. It also makes zero sense that the team would be bleeding money badly yet Jerry has no interest in getting out from under it. Has this team taken on debt the past few years? Absolutely. Does that mean they're bleeding cash and have to act like the cheapest org in professional baseball? Obviously not in my opinion.

You know it's bad when they're bragging about hot stretches of .440 baseball.

Tax data and cost of labor data provided by comp surveys from sources like mercer and bls outputs are more accurate predictors of COL which correlates directly to household income. They're also much more recent.

I said $4000 higher too pal, not 4x higher. Very big difference.

Census data is old. Not sure if you understand..chicago metro has had a higher income growth rate over the past 5 years which is how I got my numbers. Because it turns out the cost of labor on chicago is higher than the cost of labor in Nashville. I know this as a fact, hence how I knew your median income number was complete nonsense. Just like your population numbers were estimates and wrong, so were your median income numbers. You seem to have a hard time understanding that the goal is to have more people so you need less of them to attend to fill the stadium Nashville is not a serious market for the White Sox, and your trend assessments are comical. Nashville would have to grow at 500% the rate chicago has been growing each year for 20 years to even match half the population. Obviously that isnt happening and no one thinks it will.

You think Nashville has more money than Chicago? Nashville is 20% the size of Chicago. The estimated value of a Nashville start up franchise is 1 billion..the Sox are worth twice that much. What you are saying is simply not feasible from a business perspective. Ive explained this before, but ishbia wouldnt buy in at a franchise valuation around 2 billion and cut his investment value in half by moving the team. Also, why are you posting aged estimates for population? Glad to see you admitted its grown after proclaiming its shrinking. Chicagos metro median income is 4k higher than nashville's too so no idea what youre talking about with nashville being 1.7× higher.

Yup, which for a baseball team doesnt really matter. What matters is population that is around the team. TV markets dont care if youre in city limits or metro limit.

.500 prior to what? Yes, im watching the second worst team in baseball and you appear to be watching replays of major league and jack parkman to assess the White sox.

How can i say that? Because there are 100 chase meidroths in baseball and he's the opposite of a rare commodity.

Name the ways. I just presented facts that the Chicago metro area is continuing to grow and expand. Please show me one statistic that says Chicago is shrinking. Ive heard a lot of this bs narrative that doesnt align with actual population growth. I dont think you understand how large Chicago is relative to other markets. You compared it to Nashville which is laughable.

I guess you justgottabelieve. The Sox three of those guys now and 1 of them is 36. Meidroth amazingly is not one of those guys.

This isnt how statistics work.

The Brewers have 9 guys who have 200+ PA's who have a wRC+ of 110 or better (Range is 110-144 Vaughn ha). If you can fill an entire lineup with guys who are 10%+ better than league average, you'll have a really good offense.

Meidroth is a long way from being a top 5 second baseman and the problem with him is it's very possible he's already a maxed out player.

There haven't been more than 2 5WAR catchers in a season since 2013. Only 3 catchers have averaged 5+ WAR per year over a 4+ year stretch in the past 30 years -- they'll all be hall of famers. If the Sox get a Hall of Fame catcher for Crochet, I would agree it's a reasonable deal as I said earlier. I have high hopes for Teel, but I'm not sure I'm ready to call him Buster Posey Jr. yet. Meidroth being a league average or below league average infielder doesn't really move the needle. Him being a consistent 3 WAR player is quite the reach from the skill's he's shown now, but hopefully he'll surprise me!

How is Chicago declining? Cities are measured by the size of their metropolitan area population. Last year it went up .65%, which was up from .53 the year before and .4 the year after that. Name a single "large media market" without a team. The top 14 markets in the country have baseball teams - it's one reason Tampa/St Pete have a team at all. The top 3 markets, of which Chicago is a part of, all have two teams at this point too.

I've said this 100 times before but I won't change what I believe to be the right and optimal way to build a team just because the White Sox are cheap as s%*#. It doesn't change how I evaluate trades or what I expect of them as an organization. Montgomery being a 4 WAR player is a monster IF at this point. His career projected WAR is barely 4. I think he's got the tools, but that doesn't promise anything. If they net a starting catcher and below average infielder for a generational talent, then they lose the trade. It's simply in my opinion. Garrett is going to end up looking like a bargain at his contract too if he stays healthy.

The red sox are 20-9 in games started by crochet. They're 62-60 in games not started by crochet. The red sox are legit not a playoff team without garrett crochet. That's how valuable he is.

A huge win? I don't think most people here understand how valuable a 6 WAR arm is. Rarity alone means chase meidroth isnt really adding much in my opinion. Getting league average to below average players for an elite talent isnt a win. Thankfully it looks like Teel is going to be a guy so thats a plus! If meidroth and Teel were all they had to show for a top 3 arm, unless Teel becomes a HOF catcher, that certainly wouldnt be a huge win.

Well crochet is going to finish top 2 in Cy Young voting. So far, Teel has been the only guy that I can say confidently is a guy. Monty might be one too, but needs to prove it. Garrett is a unicorn.

Is he playing in AFL still? Will he be back from the foot injury in time?

Lol