Look at Ray Ray Run

i found that part hilarious. the guys driving the literal clown car over the cliff would supposedly be claiming that someone else has worn out their welcome.

Pal and Green-Konerko venturing into the same Gyro shop for their inside scoops.

I'd take under 20 total WAR throughout the tenure of this deal.

This is basically 40 million a year for 7 years. Xander isn't gonna be productive with his profile at 37-38 years old. This is one deal I look at and am happy the sox wouldn't make. Interested to see what Swanson gets, wouldn't be shocked to see him outperform Xander next 5 years.

This will be by far the worst deal of the offseason.

Nothing more throw-up worthy than the new found Mets stans at Soxtalk. Might be worse than Caufields borderline-illegal infatuation with the Padres.

don't forget... "A lot of our guys were very popular throughout the meetings. We fielded and were open to all inquiries. Fortunately we're in a position of having a lot of highly sought after individuals who we'd be more than happy to go into the season with giving us an opportunity to compete for a championship."

Welp, This became a reality.... again. Who knew. Rick Hahn never has any idea what anything is worth so he's always shocked when he doesn't get what he asks for.

You know, there was a lot of conversations. We thought we had gotten to the finish line on one or two big things, but things fissled at the last minute. It doesn't mean the off-season was lost for us, but I'm definitely feeling like the fans tonight.

wow, imagine how ugly that would be. hahn trying to get proper value for three very good players from the best team and smartest organization in baseball.

Baseball will never learn. They should have some kind of soft signing deadline at the winter meetings. Their elongated off-season is so bad for the sport.

it was poking fun as a joke, nothing serious. hope that's ok with you!

Turner is a very good defensive SS, an elite baserunner beyond just speed, in addition to being a ++ offensive player. He's not 35 years old. His bat could regress slightly and he'd still be a well above average player. The risk with Trea is injury related; if he stays healthy, he's probably the safest bet of any FA in this class. Swanson being probably the 2nd least risky given expected contract size.

wow, got half the board pushing for a TA trade. sad!

You can't make that up; just saw it after I posted it.

casuals always shout it so loud online, it's weird.

One day... this will be us as fans. Maybe in 10 years, maybe in 5, maybe when I'm 80... but I know one day we'll land a big fish. I'm sure there are plenty of weirdo's out there in white sox fandom gasping a sigh of relief as they laugh at those owners who spend.... "Duhhhh, a lot of big contracts end up bad. That would set us back a decade." Meanwhile the White Sox strategy has set them back a century.

They're grown men. Leadership in professional sports is most often shown by example. Abreu busted his ass, never stopped working, and improved multiple areas of his game over the course of a great career with the Sox. What has been so dysfunctional before LaRussa? The rebuild teams and Renteria teams played their asses off. There were stories of guys like Eloy and Yoan riding with Abreu to the facility at like 5am to train with him. Blaming one grown man (who is a peer) for the underperformance of other grown men is beyond odd. There was no question how hard Jose worked, and that's the best leadership anyone can show around their peers.

Yes, the people involved in the game and the process intimately don't get it but Jack Parkman on Soxtalk does.

Good riddance. Scherzer was practically working for Steve Cohen over the MLBPA during the last talks.

Why is Harold acting shocked that the Sox didn't bring back Abreu? Everyone who has watched 10 minutes of baseball in the last 5 years in Chicago knew that Abreu was gone. This wasn't a question.

He isn't flashy, but Q had a FIP under 3 last year. He also really only had one bad year. Q is steady eddy. I'd prefer Q from a reliability standpoint compared to Clevinger. Not sure what Q will get though. Coming off a 4 fWAR season.

Never doubt the team that had to "jump the market" on a washed up Adam Eaton. If you're a s%*#, washed, player... the Sox should be your agents first call and just let 'em know that others are interested. Sox will toss twice as much as anyone else at you and you can sign and then ride off into the sunset in June when you're released.

I'd be shocked if Cueto got 12 million or more.

I think we could see about 80 XBH's in Houston more than anything.