Look at Ray Ray Run

Yeah, but durability in the context of the era and game. Wasn't he the first pitching in MLB history to have 200+ IP in their firsr 14 seasons? Can't remember if he came up short of the record.

Buehrle was unique, and accomplished unique things. He had memorable moments and highlights. Truth is, if he was on the Yankees he'd be in. People ask what his stand out stat or quality was and it was durability and availability. Hes the Craig biggio of pitchers.

Vargas was traded for Kopech imo. The Sox got Albertus for Fedde. TBD.

The guy who played through multiple injuries, beat recovery times for all IL stints, and is in incredible shape doesnt work hard? I certainly haven't heard that. If anything, Robert over tinkers.

I think hes locked in. Gonna go on a run.

I noted in another thread, but nearly 19% of the Sox first half games were played against 3 of the 4 worst offenses in baseball. Its why the raw pitching numbers dont look horrible while the advanced metrics do. Its going to be a bloodbath in the 2nd half.

But can you tell me who has done a better job between Getz and David Stearns?

Always be weird to me that people report and attempt to censor those online who disagree with them. Couldn't be me.

I haven't watched more than 3 games this year. I post about them because I follow the team still and have been a fan my entire life.

I'm happy that you like watching the worst sox teams in history back to back years but some of us dont actually enjoy that at all. Hope that helps.

The one quote i saw from the kid, although the article also cites his strong core strength, was I'm a greyhound and not a pitbull (talking about his stature) and teams that drafted him should let him be. Can still be baseball strong without bulking but was interesting.

Only thing I dont like is he's 19.

The guards have only scored 16 more runs than the sox. Their offense is horrendous. The Sox have benefited from facing the Royals and guards 14 times so far on the season. Add the Rockies and 18% of their games this half have been vs 3 of the bottom 4 offenses in baseball.

People who work with statistics and modeling look for the stat that is the most predictive and "forecast-able." fWAR has a stronger correlation to future success/outcomes than bWAR by quite a bit, and is by far a better stat for assessing true-talent performance. We want to know how good the pitching staff has been and how good they'll be going forward, not how lucky they've been. The Sox have no where near the 9th best staff in baseball no matter how you look at it, which should further support the above perspective.

I have no idea what this means. Crochet is 26 years old. If the Sox wont be good on his contract period they should just fold up. Signing crochet would obviously make a ton of sense to anyone who hasn't lost their mind being a white sox fan.

At the midway point, Crochet puts an exclamation point on his half with a CGSO 3 hitter. He's now tied for second most fWAR behind only Skubal, and clearly one of the four horseman that exist today: Wheeler, Skenes, Skubal, Crochet. The clear cut best arms in the game. Meidroth has regressed quite a bit, but Teel has looked solid. The outcome of this trade is going to come down to Montgomery who has been toolsy and successful for level and age but hes regressed a bit. For me, it's still a significant loser given the age and status of Crochet. He is a rare talent that does not come around often.

Should of clarified fWAR but this is exactly why many don't consider bWAR to be a very good gage of pitching performance. To be fair though, I'll say they should be considered probably more in the 21-23 range than 25th, but think theyll continue to fall. If you think they're the 9th best pitching staff in baseball though I can't really help. Entire staff has the 4th worst fip and the worst xfip in baseball.

And to think, the brewers don't even have ryan fuller.

Typically this would only be granted/used for personal reasons/emergencies (non injury/baseball).

Beyond Teel, I haven't seen any player that I'd feel confident saying they'll be in the big leagues in five years. Doesn't mean there aren't any, but it doesn't give me confidence. Quero has shown something of late, but I'm still not sold there. Grant Taylor will be around but if it's in the pen, that's not doing us much.

The white sox are 25th in baseball in pitching WAR.

Had mono my senior year and didn't miss a game. Im also about 10 inches shorter and wasnt a first round talent. Maybe that played a role lol. All jokes aside, Command is actually a pretty normal challenge for pitchers 6'7+ as they develop. Hard to command all those levers consistently. It's one reason I would have taken Schultz over Painter entering this year. Because he was 6'10 with ++ command at 20 years old. Almost unheard of. To see it regress isnt great, but its even less great when it feels like the outcome was based on white sox tweaking. Hopefully he returns to form sooner than later and hes not forced to stick to some timeline they created before this season.

You keep saying this, but it's very obvious his pure stuff is not there and no where close to where it was last year. He's struggled pretty much all year; he had a 1.69 WHIP the first month of the season. He walked 28 guys in his first 45 innings, but even more alarming he gave up 27 hits in 22 innings. It's just hard for me to say fatigue is the only factor when it's been a year-long and inning-wide issue for Schultz. It hasn't really been tied solely to work load increases, and while he has gotten "worse" since the first month, he was also much worse during that period than he had been historically.

Don't disagree with anything you've said, but I just want them to stop pretending his stuff has not taken a considerate step back this year and if it's because of fatigue, OK I guess... but they're talking about him being in the MLB next year and he can't maintain his stuff in the minors. Also, maintaining stuff through the innings/pitch count they've asked of him is honestly high school and college level stuff (if you play year round) so it's honestly tough to excuse his complete failure based on that. I also don't see much difference in his numbers based on pitches thrown this year, but I admittedly have not dug in too deeply. His 2nd inning ERA is his second worst preceded by the 4th inning (which would make sense). The flag for me is his command to start games has been the challenge, and it has basically improved every inning after the 1st. So fatigue isn't driving the command challenges - at least not primarily - and a lack of command has been his biggest challenge and the most alarming YoY change. Everyone already knows how I feel about innings and pitch count management in the pros today. Trash trash trash.

I've been talking about this for about 36 months now, but loved to see a chart showing it in an article today at FG: What a damn shame Luis isn't hitting, because he'd be the most valuable commodity in baseball at this deadline by far if he were. Center Field is the weakest offensive position in the game. Having a + bat and defender there is a huge advantage for a team versus the league.