Look at Ray Ray Run

As for the topic, Seattle would be my odds-on favorite. Quicker flight home. Big Japanese population and history. Him not wanting the NY/LA spot light but still wanting endorsements might as well say Seattle imo.

It's honestly incredible how delusional you are. People crack the joke a lot on this board, but dead serious you may be Chris Getz.

Why is he being judged for not developing consensus high draft picks? Because that was his job. Everything i stated was a fact. I'm sorry that bothers you.

What does anyone of this have to do with what I typed?

Since 1990 the Sox have drafted in the top 10, 7 times. Chris Getz was here for 3 of those times. Please tell me how he lacked all this top level talent that the prior regimes had. He had more top level talent handed to him via just the draft itself than anyone had prior to 1990. Additionally he had tons of talent added via trades.

Dead pull homer hitter who led the world in wall scrappers. Wrigley deep in left. He'd have like 78% of his current career Homers if he played all his game in Wrigley if you trust statcast. He's going to absolutely mash with those crawford boxes.

I never called Mike Elias the best GM in the sport, for the record. He's fine, nothing special but certainly better than Getz.

It means that it won't be major leaguers wives, like Wheelers, that cause players to sign elsewhere for less money. It'll be their own peers experiences and commentary. It means minor leaguers will dread being drafted by your organization and seek outside help to better their careers: https://www.nytimes.com/athletic/3404269/2022/07/13/white-sox-minor-league-housing/ It means a city will laugh at your request for any accommodation because you saw a viewer-base decline so much that the number one cable provider in the city doesn't blink an eye over losing your 162 telecasts during a slow tv period. It means people might even start chattering about the team being moved from it's current hopeless location. If you don't know what losing credibility looks like, I'd ask what you've been watching happen over the past three years.

Now do the 100 other stretches like this in baseball history and their next 3+ year outcomes. Also add that the Orioles haven't won anything... but you're right they were terrible and so they hired, you said it, one of the best GM's in the sport to turn it around. Do you see all the challenges there? The White Sox missed the last part.

9 months in? Give it time? The White Sox are 102-222 in the last two years. This isn't a video game simulation, the White Sox are destroying their credibility throughout all of baseball.

I never said it would never work. I'm saying don't lie about what you're selling. This rebuild is not in a better position than the last one was. Does that mean this one can't turn out better? Of course not; I understand the laws of probability. That said, don't try and tell people who are rightfully hesitant and reluctant that it's different. The average MLB tenure for a pitcher, since 2005, is 2.85 years. A starter is slightly higher. I'd take the under on both of them easily.

How do Cannon and Thorpe have high floors? There's a good chance both those guys are out of baseball in under 4 years. The difference between this "rebuild" and the last one is that the last one wasn't starting from zero. They had players that the young players were supplementing. Anderson, Abreu, Giolito, Rodon and Reylo were already a part of the major league club. The White Sox have to find an entire roster! They also have far fewer top 10 prospects which have a much higher success rate comparatively. He's comparing Grant Taylor? to Giolito/Cease/Rodon? He isn't even as big a prospect as Reylo. One similarity between this rebuild and the last one is all the white sox bloggers and insiders are telling us how "this time, these guys are smart.... these guys are doing it differently!" Kenny Williams still catching strays in this thread when I'd give anything for a GM to have Kenny Williams level of success again.

LOL the sad thing is you weren't sure if this was parody or not because it felt so real!

A lot of risk with Montgomery imo because he was already a mediocre athlete for the outfield prior to the injury, and he's not going to get anymore athletic. Wouldn't be surprised if he's a subpar runner as a big leaguer as well. That bat needs to be great, but it wasn't a guarantee. You should give a bit more grace to someone who is switch hitting as their general bat-to-ball skills are better but I agree with you that I think Montgomery is a lot more risky that many here think and it's a profile the Sox have not had great success with.

Wouldn't hate this. I'll guess 1 year 10 million.

If he qualified, he'd have ranked third from the bottom in k-rate among starters. I wouldn't get too carried away on cannon being a reliable innings eater yet.

Certainly. The reason they're undervalued is because the skill set produces a lot of situations where the set doesn't play up at all. That said, it's a good skill to gamble on for the same reason.

What's funny is I do think the most undervalued ability by scouts and analysts alike - the ability where we've seen superstars come from borderline prospects - is bat to ball skills BUT only if they can grow into a little more power/authority. Jose Ramirez the easiest example. Mookie, Altuve and Pedroia another example although Mookie younger. A lot of time spent off top 100 lists despite good production. Kwan is kind of doing it right now with very little power.

Interesting. I'd probably prefer the SS/CF combo with both still being only 20 too.

He was awful when he pitched but he sure was lucky. I doubt that latter part will continue. If he throws 90-91 at his youthful peak his career is toast.

Development isn't linear and Zavala is 20 years old. Iriarte will be a big leaguer in some capacity, barring injury. It's way too early to judge either of those guys. Thorpe stinks.

From a raw value perspective, Getz did better than he did last year. I'm not a huge fan of trading for catching prospects in general - teams rarely-to-never trade the truly generational catching prospects. Montgomery some big tools, but I worry about his general athleticism as a defender and how he'll age in that area. If he hits, who cares, but I think he's possibly a negative defender and runner. I also think most here are undervaluing Crochet because of personally living through his injury ups and downs.

They drafted him as a starter and then dicked him around to rush him to the big leagues. They were the ones who derailed him in the first place.

No, crochet created his value. You'd have to be delusional to believe otherwise.

Some teams stock up on short stops because of athleticism and position flexibility. Sox stock up on catchers so they can create logjams at 1B and DH with guys who can't hit.