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Honestly guys, this has been so bad it's hilarious. I have no idea how someone could be angry. Tony was so bad it wasn't even rage inducing; it was fucking hysterical.

OMG, I didn't see that. This guy has flat out lost his mind. That has to be the only time in MLB history that has ever happened.

Bennett Sousa being brought into a one run game was pretty funny.

Them signing Leury prevented them from signing a 2B. It was not insignificant in the grand scheme of things. He also plays a lot even when people are healthy. This narrative that he's a utility guy is nonsense. That's never been his role and never will be with TLR in charge. Also, most all of Leury's values has come from his defense and baserunning - two things that age more quickly than ones bat. He's had one season in his entire time with the Sox in which he was an above league average hitter (and that was in a 17 GAME sample). In 2019 Leury generated 1.7 fWAR in 618 PA's; he did that with a 82 wRC+; meaning all his value derived from base running and defense which is not something you want to rely on into your mid-30's. There's no defending extending Garcia for three years. This team had plenty of guys who could slide into that roll. This team wastes 5-10 million here and there over and over again which adds up to being a significant player. you can't keep excusing everyone of these braindead moves.

It's inarguable that Hahn has been a net winner in his trades. No one will win them all. They even saved hundreds of millions by trading tatis for shields!

The Sox never use the same lineup. There's no consistency with this team. It's patented La Russa. He does nothing to maximize the play of his players.

HIs trades are the only thing that have kept him afloat. What are you talking about? Also this is just speculatory BS. Hahn could have signed people for the some time and $ commitment as he committed this off-season and it would have been much more intelligent.

No, Leury Garcia is a bad baseball player that can be replaced by countless minor league players and isn't decent at anything.

Anyone who thinks being a baseball manager is somehow a chess match and not checkers is simply lost. People like Harold and Tray are old geezers who shun data and analytics, and are stuck in there ways. Data could literally make most decisions for you without injecting ones pointless gut. Playing the numbers and the odds is better than anyone who plays their gut. I couldn't care less if the old geezers like Tray and Harold don't agree with that; their thought process is archaic and being grinded out of the game for a reason. People like TLR have seen the game pass them by.

Tony La Russa loves Leury Garcia; don't kid yourself. There's not some ulterior motive. This board constantly speculates that La Russa and Hahn are somehow intentionally harming the other. It's just nonsense. Everyone in this organization is on the same page, stroking the same billionaires ego to maintain job security. I used to give Hahn excuses like everyone else, but his track record at this point is deafening. Hahn is the worst big league scout as a GM in the entire league. It's not close.

Grandal is hurt, and he's been great the past two years. I can deal with Yaz struggling. Should Yaz likely sit it down for a while and see if his legs can bounce back? Sure, the Sox have a good catcher in AAA which is what makes it odd that they don't. Yaz isn't helping anyone playing through this injury. Sheets has no business on this roster. I remember reading posters and Hahn talking about how the Sox had a DH because Sheets was on the roster. I said on this board a few times that I would guess the best year of Sheet's career from an OPS standpoint would be last year. The Sox weren't in on Schwarber or Castellanos because they had Gavin freaking Sheets. You honestly can't make that shit up. Sheets needs to go too, I just don't know who you're bringing up for him. Leury and Josh have two guys in the minors that would outplay them - I am incredibly confident in that. Grandal and Yoyo are here to stay - both are likely hurt and not playing through it well. I can deal with very good/talented players struggling. They have track records, they have a chance. Leury and Harrison have terrible track records and don't deserve time.

I may not be able to manage the personalities in a MLB clubhouse as well as TLR, but I absolutely would make better strategic decisions within the game. It's not even a question. So strategically, I'm absolutely without a doubt smarter than Tony La Russa.

The best deal available? Leury Garcia was one of the FIRST players to sign of the entire off-season. What are you talking about?

Rick Hahn is the GM of this baseball team. HE signed Harrison and Leury - NO ONE ELSE DID IT. Why do we as Sox fans continue to make excuses for Rick Hahn's absurd MLB scouting and decision making in free agency?

Anyone but the worst fucking hitter in MLB.

I don't want to call out any posters specifically, but I am so tired of reading that Leury Garcia is a "good" utility player. He's not. He's one of the worst players in MLB (this year he has been the 2nd worst player in baseball). Leury Garcia has never been good. He's never been a player you have to lock up - he's always been replaceable (look at how Mendick is playing in limited time this year). The White Sox currently have two players in the minor leagues that would absolutely outproduced Leury Garcia for a minimum wage (Lenyn Sosa and Yolbert). After last night, Leury Garcia now has a 24 wRC+. The worst in baseball for anyone with over 100 PA's. Since Leury Garcia entered the league, of players with at least 2000 PA's in that span, Leury Garcia has been the 17th worst player in MLB via fWAR. By that same demographic, he's been the 9th worst hitter with a 76 wRC+. By every measure, Leury Garcia is one of the worst players who has been given any sort of consistent playing time in the past decade. While Leury Garcia leading off is inexplicable - Leury Garcia had the lowest wRC+ for a leadoff hitter this late in a season (with greater than 100 AB's) in at least the past 50 years - the onus can't lie solely on the shoulders of Tony La Russa. That said, the decisions of La Russa have just been inexplicable. La Russa's decision making has gotten so bad that other teams announcers are calling them out publicly: Rick Hahn was supposedly serious about winning, but he gave one of the worst players in baseball a three year contract which limited funds to allocate (apparently). Not only did he give him a three year contract, but he was one of the Sox first moves. Rick Hahn viewed Leury Garcia as a must lock up. Beyond that, this has happened multiple off-seasons now; Rick Hahn feels the need to "beat the market" for players who would likely have no market. No one in baseball was going to give Leury Garcia three years at 16+ million dollars, because as I laid out above, Leury Garcia is awful at baseball. This team made fans sit through a rebuild for years under the guise of spending and supporting the group once they came into their contention window. I guess Rick Hahn meant supporting them with dollars spent on replaceable utility players who are on the wrong side of 30. Eduardo Escobar, who cost the same yearly as Josh Harrison/Leury Garcia has been worth 1.1 fWAR. That's 2.2 more fWAR than Garcia/Harrison combined despite having similar total PA's. If Rick Hahn was serious about winning, he would release Leury Garcia and Josh Harrison today. He would call up Yolbert and Sosa. There was no excuse for Hahn to spend 10+ million dollars on two players who were easily two of the worst players in MLB. I'm tired of watching Leury Garcia and Josh Harrison. How Rick Hahn executed this off-season is baffling. And LEURY GARCIA IS NOT A GOOD UTILITY PLAYER. Please stop saying that.

Sheets running into robert. Jfc. Why does sheets keep starting in rf

Hes been the worst hitter in baseball. He's not a good anything

Nice. Biggest at bat of the game and the leadoff guy is up. That's gotta be a good thing, right??

Sox have two guys in the minors that would absolutely be better than Harrison a and leury (hard not to be) but rick hann isn't actually serious about winning,

I explain pretty thoroughly that I stated in my first post that they enforce offensive/defensive positions limits (not just defense), and also explained that I found it pretty arbitrary whether it's on offense or defense - the purpose is the same. Also that I found it odd that you are willing to accept it on offense in some sports, and offense and defense in basketball, but defense in baseball is for some reason off limits. Also, lineman are restricted once a ball is snapped as well.

Hockey you can't even enter a zone of the ice without the puck being there first. Soccer you can never be in front of the last line of defense as an offensive player and receive the ball. Basketball you cannot stand in the lane without an offensive player around you for longer than 3 seconds. In football, you cannot line up more than a certain amount of players on the line of scrimmage and only a certain kind of player is allowed to run past the line of scrimmage on pass plays. As I noted in my post, other leagues enforce defensive/offensive positioning to limit exploitative practices. I don't really think there's much difference between doing it on offense or defense. You're just choosing to accept those sports restrictions on player locations or movements, while being critical of MLB's proposal and pretending they're not at all similar. I'd argue they're all predicated around the same thing.

Leury Garcia has a 464 OPS and the WORST wRC+ in baseball (29!!!) of anyone with over 130 PA's. Yet here he is, leading off for the White Sox.

Why is Tony La Russa the way he is?

kind of like painting blue lines under ice, white lines on grass, and white lines on wood