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QUOTE(White Sox Josh @ Nov 1, 2005 -> 01:37 PM) is it really lowballing because he would get his money. What if he were to earn around the same as this year. And than the contract escalates for the next three years. It's simple economics as to why backloaded or deferred contracts are lowballing. Inflation, time value of money, etc. You know, common sense

QUOTE(White Sox Josh @ Nov 1, 2005 -> 12:37 PM) Why does everybody think that Konerko all he cares about is money. I think if the offers are pretty close he would accept the Sox offer. He may take slightly less money. Not some backloaded, incentive laden deal, with a buyout option. :rolly I think you are confusing the two...But when it comes down to it you will have to pay him to stay. If you match his best offer he will choose Chicago, if not wave bye bye to Paulie.

QUOTE(Texsox @ Nov 1, 2005 -> 10:56 AM) If only the Brewers kept Pods, then they would have won the WS Amazing the ex-player bashing that goes on. I figured since Lee didn't leave via free agency, there would have been less venom :headshake I can't wait to find out what a greedy bastard Konerko is and how it will suck for him in LA, NY, or elsewhere If Konerko leaves for more money who am I to judge that. Anaheim would make a lot of sense for him. Its closer to home and they have a solid team around him...not sure why I feel like I have to explain myself, but I don't appreciate assumptions like this directed near my proximity.

QUOTE(BlackBetsy @ Nov 1, 2005 -> 10:33 AM) You've got to get more than a lefty reliever for Rowand. I wouldn't mind the Sox packaging Rowand and El Duque to pick up Aubrey Huff + a reliever from Tampa. Is this the same Tampa Bay that can never make a trade during the Trade Deadline because they overvalue all of their players? Yet they are going to trade Huff and a reliever for Rowand and El Duque...funny stuff

QUOTE(Steff @ Nov 1, 2005 -> 10:40 AM) It's really not a question of his talent. John is/was getting paid a LOT of $$. Sadly, it all boils down to the bottom line. If the $$ isn't there (advertising $$ mainly) they can't pay him. Hopefully the Sox are able to come to some terms with both the Score and John and he sticks around. Thats what makes it difficult. The score is competing with national outlets like ESPN as well as a few TV outlets that may pay him to do their Television broadcasts. John Rooney is such a highly respected announcer he is hands down the #1 free agent in the world of MLB broadcasters. It will be near impossible for the score to find the money to keep him. Unless he takes less money than he can get elsewhere there will be someone else joining Farmio in the booth in '06.

QUOTE(aboz56 @ Nov 1, 2005 -> 10:34 AM) By the way, how'd that trade work out for you Milwaukee? We got a ring, you're stuck with a jackass!!!!!!!!!!!! I'll take that kind of output anyday. I think were due for another noob to start a thread on who got the better of the Carlos Lee and Scott Podsednik trade. Haven't had one of those since, oh thats right, we starting winning games in the postseason

QUOTE(aboz56 @ Nov 1, 2005 -> 10:28 AM) They both deserved it. PK and Frank do not. And never will. The media has long painted an incorrect picture of Frank to the general public. It's gone on for such a long time no one even notices anymore. The casual sox fan has no idea who the real Frank Thomas is because of some of the garbage that has been written about him in the past 10 plus years. Carlos Lee did nothing to help the team when he was hear from what I've heard. Ordonez handled his contract situation in one of the shadiest and non-ethical displays I have ever seen. They both had it coming to them.

QUOTE(fathom @ Nov 1, 2005 -> 10:22 AM) With Lee's fly ball tendencies, the Red Sox should be all over him when he becomes a FA. The short porch would also improve his defense (even though he's just as good as Pods is in the field if you ask me). Pods takes bad angles in the outfield but he still gets to way more balls than Carlos Lee would ever imagine getting to.

QUOTE(Punch and Judy Garland @ Nov 1, 2005 -> 09:47 AM) Well he had zero errors in 04 and we are gonna back Damaso Marte now? Seems that there are a million people in Lee's camp as far as making fun of Marte goes Having zero errors in a season hardly indicates that you can play defense. He is a slightly below average left fielder defensively, we all know that.

QUOTE(Mercy! @ Oct 31, 2005 -> 11:16 PM) Why is my name in this thread's title? I don't believe in gasoline. I have no idea what this means ^^ Saw 2.38 on my way to work this morning.

QUOTE(DrunkBomber @ Oct 31, 2005 -> 04:26 PM) i wanted ideas on what the TATTOO should get like. Not your opinion on if I should get one or a spelling lesson. Well rule 1 is understanding that you must expect the unexpected....rule 2 is that you do not tell anyone about fight club. Ok, I'll play nice..as for real tattoo ideas - you could go with the dont stop believin theme, perhaps a grinder ball rule, or simply an old fashioned 2005 WS champions logo...

QUOTE(Felix @ Oct 31, 2005 -> 04:18 PM) Is Casey Rogowski close to being ready for the majors? Casey Rogowski comparison = Ross Gload with slightly better speed. He's a solid hitter, good OBP...not sure if he will ever be a everyday player in the majors. I would say he will start in AAA this coming year and will be evaluated from there. He didnt have a very good second half of last season...

QUOTE(Milkman delivers @ Oct 31, 2005 -> 04:05 PM) Doesn't Cincinnati love over-paid, under-achieving pitchers? El Duque for Adam Dunn. You forgot to add in, aging and 'part-time'. There is no way you will ever get a full season out of el duque at this point of his career.

QUOTE(DrunkBomber @ Oct 31, 2005 -> 04:01 PM) Im gonna get a sox tatoo on my arm so I can always remember 05. I want to incorporate something with this year and this specific team. any ideas? Heres mine: Don't get a tattoo...and learn how to spell it before you make any rash decisions.

QUOTE(Chisoxfn @ Oct 31, 2005 -> 03:55 PM) I think a lot of people haven't look at his stats. Well over .400 OBP, high average, tons of xtra base hits and all that in Petco park with what is a rather meager offense. Giles would put up a near 1.000 OPS if he were playing half his games at the cell. That said if the Pads offer him 3yr/30 he's gonna be staying in San Diego. I agree with you, but San Diego is kind of in a position where they almost HAVE to keep him. They don't exactly have a wealth of offensive talent on that club right now, especially with some of their can't miss offensive prospects kinda struggling. Giles may not be going anywhere...

QUOTE(iWiN4PreP @ Oct 31, 2005 -> 03:40 PM) It would be great for furcal to sing with the cubs for 11 million, then have a flat-out s*** year. lol. that'd fit perfect for the cubbies. I for one could care less if the cubs sign Furcal...why do we continue to focus with things over there?? What have they won lately?

QUOTE(Balta1701 @ Oct 31, 2005 -> 03:18 PM) It depends on which portion of the season you're talking about. April/May...not a chance. Trading deadline time...on the other hand.... You guys are all acting like KW has traded for Carl Everett at the trade deadline on multiple occasions or something :rolly Definitely no suprises with these two moves. Both things had to be done...

QUOTE(Randar68 @ Oct 31, 2005 -> 11:23 AM) How many times have you seen Anderson play in his career? How many at-bats? The handful of major-league at-bats? Nobody has said anywhere that he's anything close to Pujols or Cabrera, and even saying that kind of stuff just furthers your lunatic apologist stance with regard to Rowand. His ceiling is far greater than Rowand's. He has never repeated a level. Hell, this summer was the first one he even spent entirely at a single level (and he didn't technically do that bouncing to Chicago)... He has hit everywhere he has been. He has taken walks, wherever he has been. He has risen quickly, without set-back, while playing CF and battling 2 injuries along the way. Anderson is a far superior baseball player to Aaron Rowand and the method you use to argue the point is beyond ridiculous. Please tell me what about Aaron Rowand makes him irreplaceable by a higher-ceiling prospect who plays Equivalent-at-worst defensive CF. Rowand is a freaking #7/8/9 hitter! This is how you develop the organization. Thank God Kenny has balls, because some of you are just afraid to make changes just for the sake of being afraid. This has nothing to do anymore about what would Zoom or Rock do if they were GM. 1) Kenny loves Brian Anderson 2) Kenny has Brian Anderson on big board 3) Rowand has disappointing year. 4) Kenny has several OF'ers who could be ready to break in for 2007, meaning you'd prefer to have Anderson established and knowing what you'll be able to get from him for 2007 instead of breaking in multiple OF'ers. 5) Rowand makes 3.25 million and Anderson makes 350k. It's simple deductive reasoning. Anderson could be included in a trade if KW has to do so to get a #3 or #4 hitter, but aside from that, Anderson will be your starting CF'er in 2006. It's time for some people to come to grips with reality. Very good post Randar. I agree with you completely that Anderson will most likely be our starting CF next year. Rowand's value is relatively high considering the down year he had offensively. If anyone is to be moved this offseason (besides Marte) he has to be at the top of that short list. Anderson oozes potential...I haven't had the opportunity to see him besides his spring training AB's and his short stint up here last season, but I'm extremely impressed by everything he does. No one needs to look further than his two homeruns off of Felix Hernandez to see what this kid brings to the table. Time will tell...but I would not at all be suprised to see Anderson as our everyday CF in 2006.

QUOTE(southsider2k5 @ Oct 31, 2005 -> 10:53 AM) Taste of Chicago fireworks usually bring in about a million people, as does the air and water show. Just an observation...there are WAYYYYY more people downtown on July 3rd than there was last friday...not even close. The reason the numbers are skewed is because that 1.75 million number was the total number of people who watched the parade and caravan. So they are including all the people on the side of road in bridgeport, etc. The turn out was amazing but there is no way it even compares with how many people are downtown on the 3rd of July.

I went to Cedar Point about two months ago...we went on every roller coaster. But in typical fashion, the dragstrip ride was 'closed for repair'...this would upset some people, but much like Charlie Brown, I have become unaffected by these small misfortunes along my way.

QUOTE(maki @ Oct 31, 2005 -> 09:08 AM) what are they gonna do about the refunds? probably just put the money back on the card i imagine. i just wanna make sure i can keep the ticket and do a nice frame job w/ a good pic. According to my calculations, check your credit card balance on thursday of this week. It will be refunded by then.... P.S. I am often wrong, but if you make enough mindless predictions enough come true where people forget the errors. Anyways...the refunds that I recieved never were accompanied by an email. They just refund your account about 1 to 2 weeks after the cancelled event...no worries.

QUOTE(knightni @ Oct 29, 2005 -> 01:46 PM) I added two more owner spots if anyone is still interested. Thanx...just joined up

I don't care what this guy thinks, b/c I don't even know who he is. It's a moot point and you have to be a moron or just a typical homer to find this series 'boring'. I'll give him irritating, because the Fox broadcast was terrible this year, but boring? Does he even watch baseball? The thing that sickens me is that ESPN finds a place on their website for this trash. I used to never buy into the East Coast Bias, but after seeing this on garbage on their site, the writing is on the wall. Now back to the celebration

QUOTE(southsideirish71 @ Oct 27, 2005 -> 10:23 PM) I still have your shirt if you want it. How about you take the high road here SSI... See everyone down there tomorrow. I'll be the sox fan standing around the stage at the rally... :rolly

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