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QUOTE(Kalapse @ Aug 6, 2007 -> 05:32 PM) Priority #1 LEADOFF HITTER That's not a position. This team need legitimate talent. Especially in the OF. Until they stop equating speed with talent and the top of the lineup, this team will be among the worst in the American League offensively.

QUOTE(BearSox @ Aug 6, 2007 -> 04:57 PM) I personally want no part of Joe Crede and his 4 million dollar salary next year. I wouldn't mind him getting traded for a A ball pitcher. Josh Fields is our future at 3B, might as well keep him there and spend the money we'd save from Crede on something else. I assume you're a big fan of Jerry Owens? We need three outfielders for next year. If Fields isn't one of them, Owens assuredly is. In fact, Owens is probably the CFer until Sweeney usurps him even if Fields is in the OF. A vote for Crede is a vote against punchless outfielders.

QUOTE(earthshiner @ Aug 6, 2007 -> 04:10 PM) thats why you need a solid plan B for left next year if Crede goes down. If he stays healthy I think that we will be solid at the corners at least. Fields is your plan B for 3B. For the corners, I suppose the best case scenario would have Owens being the plan B (He appears to be PLAN A in CF right now), with Sweeney and or Anderson being C/D. Though that would require re-signing Dye and making a Run at Rowand (You know they're gonna) as well.

QUOTE(striker62704 @ Aug 6, 2007 -> 04:00 PM) Crede batted .216 after 47 games this year with 4HR. He has a career batting average of .259. And he's a Boras client. If he can show he's healthy (either this year or in spring training) then deal him. I don't think he's worth keeping around. Oh yeah, he's an injury risk too. Summary: 3B is still a concern with Crede around. Let's think about this another way... What would it cost to get a .750 OPS outfielder with good defense (because Fields figures to be average and Crede is an above average defensive 3B) and an upside of 30 HR? A week ago it was going to cost you Jermaine Dye. This offseason, it's going to cost more than bringing back Crede. Simply because you're not going to be able to find that player 1) as cheap as Joe Crede is gonna come ( (Juan Rivera is another name who might come cheap, and provide much of the same, but I can't think of any others) Crede's done for the year. He's not going to be able to show he's healthy. And this spring he will have little to no trade value since only super s***ty teams go into spring training without 3B filled. The least risky option in terms of both long and short-term $ is going to re-signing Crede, and shifting Fields to the OF. You might be able to move Crede at the deadline for a pitching prospect (or something like that) then calling up a Sweeney/Anderson (whomever finally starts to prove their ready for the show).

According to Angels fans AJ = 2 Doug Eddings = 3

QUOTE(CanOfCorn @ Aug 5, 2007 -> 07:18 PM) I would think it would have been Danks. Or centered around Danks. I would love Tejada on this team, but it's not that important. As stated earlier in the thread, anyone else involved (who was on the 40-man roster) in the trade would have had to clear waivers. Danks would have been claimed by every team in baseball. The Sox have about 4 valuable non-protected players. Gio, Egbert, DLS, Carter

QUOTE(LosMediasBlancas @ Aug 5, 2007 -> 03:44 PM) Everyone in attendance who was booing him WHILE HIS WIFE AND KIDS WERE THERE, should be kicked in the face. I would criticize this post, but I'm pretty sure your wife and kids are reading over your shoulder.

QUOTE(Soxy @ Aug 4, 2007 -> 08:31 PM) I have seen the first two season and loved it, but still haven't seen the last 3. I love it though, so wonderfully dark and macabre--but really beautiful. The ending was great. I'm not ashamed to say it made me get choked up. That usually take a dog dying or something... watch the last 3 seasons.

I hit 10 HR in Wii Sports HR derby... 5437 feet. I rock!

QUOTE(sox4lifeinPA @ Aug 3, 2007 -> 03:42 PM) spuds mckenzie! Spuds was a Bull Terrier, I believe.

QUOTE(greasywheels121 @ Aug 3, 2007 -> 01:03 PM) Disagree there. It's not even being upset about losing Chris Young, I just thought the move was very unnecessary at the time. I just thought if anyone was going to go into the rotation, it should've been BMac. I just thought that move was really Yankee-esque and unneccessary. It'd be cool if someone ended up finding the original threads from this trade. I wasn't too upset, which is a bit surprising, considering at the '05 trade deadline I was leading the "Don't trade Chris Young" parade.

Kershaw's gotta be #1 Morales and McGee in the 2-4 range After that, I'm struggling. Elbert is done for a year. Did they include Manny Parra, whose stuff is off the charts, but is having his first healthy season in, well, forever? Can be Andrew Miller, can it? Lofgren? Gio's stuff and numbers easily eclipse his If I'm makin a list it goes Kershaw Gio McGee (I might put him ahead of Gio) Morales (whose K numbers don't quite match up to his heat)

The title of this post, when combined with a posting date 7 months after the signing, makes me laugh. I then went a step further and averaged 4 popular projection systems to give an idea of what the Sox were wasting resources on... .261/.317/.364 -- Erstad had a big day Thursday to push his '08 line to .274/.323/.349. Too bad nobody could see that coming... On the opening day of spring training, in response to a BRUTAL Phil Rogers article in which he lauded Erstad for his ability to play football and hockey 12 years ago, I posted this I took a full 2 months before Hawk breathlessly raced from the booth to the clubhouse to check on his little pet. At the time I could only imagine that Erstad would be Hawk's favorite player. Not a single game (even pre-season) had been broadcast yet. Today when Erstad went down for the 3rd time this season, and for the second time in his first start back from the DL, Hawk could only muster an almost sarcastic "Erstad goes down... again." Not even Hawk can muster concern about our little grinder anymore. It's time to put him down, Barbaro and whatever derisive nickname we have yet to give to Jerry Owens too. I think I'm just obligated to have particular disdain for any player who wears #7.

QUOTE(southsideirish71 @ Aug 2, 2007 -> 01:55 PM) Polanco is the exact opposite of the type of hitter the sox create. He hits to all fields, he puts the bat on the ball, and is a tough tough person to strikeout. I along with others wish we had picked him up. He is what a number 2 hitter should be. Our smaller guys should strive to hit like that. I seem to remember being the leader of the Polanco Pride Crew before we acquired Iguchi, with many others citing the Yankees signing of Tony Womack and Polanco's eventual return to Philly (without really testing the FA market) as a cue that he wasn't a very valuable piece to have on a championship club.

QUOTE(kapkomet @ Aug 1, 2007 -> 04:17 PM) No offense, but then you are a weak minded idiot. It was, is, and always will be that they NEVER said they were linked in any way to the attacks. It amazes me how much people want to distort things to pin particular "fact" on this administration. I don't give a s*** what poll said what, they NEVER EVER said that they were linked, yet everyone jumped to that conclusion, and they REPEATEDLY said that they knew there was ZERO evidence linking the two together. It is a fact, though that Al Queda and Iraq were linked. That's completely different then saying 9/11 and Iraq were linked. January 2003 SOTU speech... IMAGINE!

QUOTE(Kalapse @ Jul 31, 2007 -> 10:00 AM) Yeah, I'm sure they just f***ed up the counter they've had up on their site for the past 5 days or so. From MLB: July 31, 2007: Non-waiver trade deadline (4 p.m. ET) Their countdown on TV was 3 hours fast yesterday for about 20 minutes.

QUOTE(JDsDirtySox @ Jul 30, 2007 -> 11:03 PM) I think Jermaine has 3-4 years left... do you disagree? No. And that's kinda the point. He's got about 3-4 more years before he's out of baseball. And if he closes out his career in a White Sox uniform, and that time only encompasses another 2-3 years, those years are gonna be pretty lean and not fun to watch.

QUOTE(JDsDirtySox @ Jul 30, 2007 -> 10:58 PM) I'm telling you... Dye and KW are talking. I am not opposed to resigning JD. I think we will come to know in the morning that JD will finish his career with the White Sox. If Dye "finishes his career with the White Sox" and only signs "a 2-3 year deal," those are going to be some really painful years.

QUOTE(BearSox @ Jul 29, 2007 -> 10:23 PM) I did this really quick in my head and wrote it down... I'm still working on the details of the trades. LINEUP: 1.) Owens, LF{It pains me to do this, but are there any better realistic options?} A sharp stick in the eye? How about a player you put on the bench, Matt Murton?

QUOTE(Calderon @ Jul 29, 2007 -> 05:26 PM) Maybe this is a naive question, but how high a ceiling do you expect from a relief pitcher? Furthermore, how much more can Perez do to raise his ceiling, considering he's dominated every level since entering the organization? To me, he seems like a guy that could be helping in Chicago very shortly. well he's a small righty who gets by on breaking stuff who doesn't top 90MPH. His numbers this season have been good but not otherworldly until July, and only last season was great. I can see a future for him in the big leagues, but not as much more than back of the bullpen filler. Similarly, I see Russell as back of the bullpen material with potential.

1. Gio 2. DLS 3. Sweeney (still) 4. Carter 5. Egbert 6. Richar Big drop off to guys like McCulloch, Broadway, Poreda, and Griffin. Plus interesting but injured players like Harrell and Cassel. Add in the disappointing Russell, the low-ceilinged Oneli, the still raw Shelby, and a few rookie leaguers like Martinez, Morales, and Lin to round out the top 20, and you still don't have much.

http://sports.yahoo.com/mlb/news?slug=ap-m...p&type=lgns They were already kicking the tires on Iguchi. You have to imagine this increases the Sox bargaining position, as it makes the Mets more desperate to fill what is now a hole filled by Ruben Gotay, who has played well in limited action.

QUOTE(vandy125 @ Jul 20, 2007 -> 09:09 AM) I actually like what I see out of Owens this year. I love seeing someone with the ability to bunt for a base hit and cause some problems for pitchers on the base paths. Fact. I turned 28 on Thursday. Fact. Jerry Owens hasn't had an extra-base hit in 29 straight games. Fact. During my lifetime only two White Sox players have had more consecutive at-bats without an extra-base hit (Mike Caruso 110, and Scott Fletcher 123) than Jerry Owens, who currently is sporting a sweet .224/.276/.224 line over his last 107 at-bats. Fact. You have to go back to 1972, when the seldom used Jay Johnstone went extra-base hitless in 122 straight at-bats (over 3 months), to find a longer streak of punchlessness from a White Sox outfielder.