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Ron also was outmanaged (or more accurately, made more blunders than Tony preceding Tony's OG retirement. Nice guy, would be a good bench or 3B coach, but hoping (though not expecting) a better final manager. Hoping they are going to conduct an actual interview process and vet solid candidates. I fear Tony continuing to be Jerry's primary guy as he appeared to be the past two seasons, regardless of what role they formally announce.

Read the fucking fine print in Bob’s article: Fucking shitshow.

The bigger priority was signing outfielders who can field the position. The next priority was overall hitting. The third priority was signing a LH hitter. Hahn failed at step number one.

You don’t need to be a doctor to be able to read James Fegan’s tweet my comments were based on. Sadly, it appears Hahn and Tony do have control over players availability and have the same mindset.

Jerry created a monster.

Perhaps our resident Trainer can weigh in on this. The linked article addresses three treatment options for a torn meniscus - https://www.forbes.com/sites/lucasseehafer/2020/02/14/cleveland-starting-pitcher-mike-clevinger-to-have-surgery-on-injured-meniscus/amp/ Seems like the Sox went a fourth route, the same they choose with Robert and likely others - continue to run the injured player out there and waive your hands in the air like you just don’t care. Kopech didn’t miss a start, let alone rest for 4-6 weeks. https://www.baseball-reference.com/players/gl.fcgi?id=kopecmi01&t=p&year=2022

What in the hell are the Padres wearing?

You can't have a bracket of 68 teams, or whatever the current format is, and also have tiebreaker games. Playoffs go three weeks too long already. The World Series will soon resemble the NHL Winter Classic games.

Give Michael Lewis two years and access to everyone in the Sox organization the past three years, and he'd have a book and movie that would make Moneyball seem like a dull I Love Lucy episode (or The Last Dance, for that matter).

Eddie Gaedel was 3' 7', 60 pounds.

Again, the lineup card was made by La Russa. Also said the Sox bid against themselves, but Hahn did the same with Grandal, Keuchel, Parrot, Eaton 2.0, Lynn's rushed extension and others. It's par for the White Sox. All that said, Leury wasn't even in the Top Dozen things which went wrong that mattered this season. Even if Leury played as expected (.700 OPS, 60-75 games) it would have made negligible difference in the standings. He's not playing now because he is injured. He'd still be playing nearly everyday injured if Tony was here, because Tony is hands down the most stubborn and worthless manager in MLB, and I'd argue the worst manager in a White Sox uniform (minimum 3 games - FU Don Cooper) during my lifetime. And I still remember the Jim Fergosi, Terry Bevington and Robin Ventura regimes.

The Sox would have had the owner who brought five Super Bowls and Joe Montana, Jerry Rice, Steve Young and Bill Walsh to the 49ers; and brought Mario Lemieux and two Stanley Cups to Pittsburgh. However, the American League owners blocked the sale, in part because they hated Bill Veeck and in part because penny pinching owners like Bud Selig and several other teams didn't want a competent ownership group owning the Sox, so they plotted to install Jerry instead.

Think the criticism of Leury is overboard like Ricky's here in 2020. The primary issue with Leury has been reported permanently gone (Tony La Russa). When you are carrying three hitters plus a back up catcher, a player who can adequately cover the entire field is valuable. Also, God only knows how hurt he when Tony demanded he play nearly every single day. Like the ongoing Robert / Kopech injury situations, it's hard to tell how many games he played when he was injured and shouldn't have been playing. Not saying the Sox should have bid against themselves and give him three years, but he will be valuable as a reserve once he is healthy and limited to 50-60 by a sane manager. His OPS over the prior five years are .739, .679, .688, .758 and .711. This works for a reserve player.

Agreed. Poor scouting, Jerry's meddling and the FO are responsible for bringing in old guys on their last deals, not the Senior Circuit. I can think of three hitters who did well here after arriving from the National League after Adam Dunn's signing. Adam Eaton (2014-2016) .769 OPS, 5.3 bWAR average per season before being flipped. This signing and trade is Rick Hahn's "One Shining Moment" with the White Sox (Kenny's was actually delivering a Championship the the South Side of Chicago). Todd Frazier (2016-2017) .765 OPS, 5.3 bWAR over ten months before he was traded. Yasmani Grandal (2020-2022) .752 OPS, had a solid two months in 2020, and a very solid 2021 (4.6 bWAR over the eight months 2020 + 2021), before age and health issues took their toll.

I went off the 40 man roster. I would have had Colas up in late July / early August. Unfortunately, I don't expect Colas to start the season with the White Sox, perhaps they will keep him down until May/June 2024, because Jerry is worried about his 2029 money more so than winning ballgames.

Would be ok, though not thrilled, with a six team format (Division winners only, best of 3 or 5 # 2 vs. #3, winner plays #1 in best of 7 LCS). 2020 was the only “wild card” appearance in White Sox history. The ten others (no 1901 World Series) were proper division or league title appearances. American League Pennants (8 team league): (1901, 1906, 1917, 1919, 1959). American League Western Division Titles (7 team division): (1983, 1993) American League Central Division Titles (5 team division): (2000, 2005, 2008, 2021). Wild Card Appearance: (2020) I oppose the wild cards in general, and additional wild cards additionally, because it cheapens the 162 “champion season” to merely a seeding exercise, lowering The MLB’s stature to the other three NA major sport leagues. A champion should emerge from a postseason between division or league champions. However, for purely selfish White Sox fandom reasons, one should also oppose additional wild cards and round of playoffs, at least under the current divisional alignment and return to a balanced schedule, because the AL Central will likely produce few if any wild cards, and division winners also have a good probability to be slated as a number three seed, thus requiring an additional fourth playoff round win vs. the previous one (1903-1968), two (1969-1993) or three (1995-2021) rounds previous White Sox teams faced. The White Sox have only advanced more than one round of playoffs one time in the over 50 years of expanded playoffs. A fourth round is another gauntlet, and we don’t have Clint Eastwood to navigate.

Yes, but the 12 team playoff is even worse. Seven or eight team divisions, four team playoff, no wild card BS.

He will be back in LF, only allowing the team to DH him because he is crippled.

Tankathon indeed. They are the nut low in sports fandom.

They wrote a song to honour Jerry.

Well, the googles have plenty of articles about it, but you can start with this one: https://www.espn.co.uk/chicago/mlb/story/_/id/7117883/ozzie-guillen-fires-back-chicago-white-sox-pitching-coach-don-cooper Always loved this quote: https://mlb.nbcsports.com/2011/10/18/ozzie-guillen-angry-at-white-sox-pitching-coach-don-cooper/ That said, Ozzie should have taken the high road and finished the season before telling Kenny and Cooper to GFY. PS - Don Cooper called Joe Cowley and your buddy Darryl Van Schouwen liars, but when asked directly what was inaccurate going over the details in an interview with the Score, Cooper couldn't refute anything in the articles. https://chicago.cbslocal.com/2011/10/07/cooper-everything-cowley-wrote-is-a-bunch-of-lies/

If Jerry is still chairman, he turns 90 for Cease's post FA Spring Training season. Keith Richards remains seven years younger in the race to immortality.

The Sox finished 9 games out of first in 1990, or three games further back than Jerry's infamous White Flag trade year (1997). Larry Himes was correct to not mortgage the future for Mike Scott. He was due $0.7M for 1/3 of 1990 and $2.1M in 1991 ($2.8M total). He did pitch well down the stretch, but only managed two starts (12.86 ERA - worse than Dallas Keuchel) before a career ending injury in 1991 (Age 36). Willie McGee was a free agent in 1991, and would have helped. The Sox dodged a bullet by passing on Harold Baines, as Jerry would have kept him around for up to 12 years averaging about 1.2 bWAR a year at a significant salary.

Don’t kid yourself, Jerry knows perfectly well Hahn doesn’t know his ass from a hole in the ground when it comes to being a GM, same as he knew Gar Pax were incompetent boobs. Jerry doesn’t give a s%*# were the White Sox finish, although it is known second place is his preference. Jerry likes Hahn personally and thus Hahn will be here fucking things up for as long as Hahn kneels to kiss Jerry’s pinky ring and wants to stay.

The White Sox five includes Shelley Duncan heading up the operation. His job qualification? Being born Dave Duncan’s son. Similar to Tony La Russia’s crony veterinarian Head of Analytics in Arizona. Nearly everyone in the White Sox front office and television broadcasts are nothing but absolutely worthless cronies and paid Jerry Reinsdorf shills. They only need stay forever loyal to Jerry and they will literally never leave until after Jerry passes away.