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South Side Hit Men

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  1. I was too busy to follow the Sox closely then. Did he start with a 2-3 year deal Hahn extended after 2013? Probably had to to stop Ventura from giving Hahn the keys and walking away, and or having him serve as a lame duck in 2014, not that he wasn't his entire tenure. Ricky has been their second best manager this millennium, beyond Ozzie's 2004-2008. My three favorites were Tanner, Torborg and Ricky, though thought Ozzie did a great job managing the pitching staff / going with starters longer than most in games. Bob Lemon did a good job as well, won a World Series a few months after leaving here mid-season in 1978. Leyland and Espada turned down managerial spots here with no other managerial gig the following season. Can't blame either, nor the other quality baseball people who also rejected working for Mr. Loyalty over the decades.
  2. Couldn't find a single local report in corporate or NFP (Sun-Times, WTTW, WBEZ) media. NY Post was the only article I could find. They didn't add to the CWB Chicago report beyond this picture and CWB's video of two Chicago Hockey Player cars pre 2022 NYE. https://nypost.com/2023/08/17/white-sox-stars-girlfriend-has-car-stolen-on-way-to-cubs-game/ I recommend manual transition cars. Most here won't get too far without automatic transition, though they may strip your gears trying.
  3. MLB won't succeed in Vegas the same was as the Golden Knights and Raiders. I have family there and spend 2-3 + weeks there each year. it cannot make up for lack of TV money with tourist money. Revenue sharing will continue to be their primary source of income. The Golden Knights are their first professional team, had an epic first season. Many Canadian snowbirds attend games as do domestic tourists come in for their one/two games a year. They only have to sell 717,500 tickets a season for 100% capacity. The NFL is widely popular, out of town fans can plan a Vegas weekend to visit their team. They only have to sell 520,000 (8 X 65,000) tickets a year, piece of cake. MLB has 81 home dates a year. Even with a limited capacity of 30,000 or less, you are talking 2,400,000 tickets, or over 3 times what the Golden Knights sell. Also, Summer weather Memorial Day through mid September is 100 F - 110 F every day, so a closed roof nearly every game which sucks for fans. Also, TV revenue will be among the lowest in MLB, between the small base and the fact their existing TV broadcast ATT sucks. Vegas is a three shift town, so you're not going to get the same interest watching 162 games as you do 16 NFL or even 82 for the Stanley Cup champs. The A's owner is even more of a piece of s%*# than Jerry Reinsdorf, has ZERO intent on building a championship team. He's only interested in the grift, maximizing revenue sharing and taxpayer handouts and minimizing payroll.
  4. 15,275 paid, hopefully far less in person.
  5. I don't agree with this. When a man's lifelong wife dies, in many instances they join her within six-twelve months. If not, they typically live as long as they would have before becoming a widower. Wouldn't be surprised if Jerry lives into his 100s, longer than a number of SoxTalk posters born well after 1936.
  6. Eleven cities, thirteen instances. Five more in planning stages, twenty five in pre planning stage. And the beat goes on MLB Betrayal Tour 1901-2023: AL = American League; NL = National League Rest in Peace Milwaukee AL 1901 (a) Baltimore AL 1901-1902 (b) Boston NL 1876-1952 (c) Saint Louis AL 1902-1953 (a) Philadelphia AL 1901-1954 (d) New York NL 1883-1957 (e) Brooklyn NL 1884-1957 (f) Washington AL 1901-1960 (g) Milwaukee NL 1953-1965 (c) Kansas City AL 1955-1967 (d) Seattle AL 1969 (h) Washington AL 1961-1971 (i) Montreal NL 1969-2004 (j) To Be Determined Oakland Athletics (d) Tampa Bay Rays Milwaukee Brewers (h) Baltimore Orioles (b) Chicago White Sox Notes: a = Currently the Baltimore Orioles b = Franchise folded, New York Highlanders/Yankees added as an expansion team c = Currently the Atlanta Baseball Team d = Currently the Oakland Athletics e = Currently the San Francisco Giants f = Currently the Los Angeles Dodgers g = Currently the Minnesota Twins h = Currently the Milwaukee Brewers i = Currently the Texas Rangers j = Currently the Washington Nationals
  7. .577 Charlotte OPS across 50 ABs. Might need some more work if you don't want him overmatched like Sosa and Colas, also promoted before they were ready.
  8. Wilbur Wood will be 82 next season. I wonder how his knee is holding up these days. Dylan Cease German Marquez Michael Kopech Brad Keller Jesse Scholtens
  9. As long as Jerry is alive, he is the one who currently will decide. Fans derision of him and his actions have no baring. Jerry's anger and desire for retribution is legion, be it against the players fans want to see, broadcasters fans want to hear, or peers trying to win fans want as their owner.
  10. I'm done with the sport at that stage, they already killed the other team I cared about (Expos). Hope World Series ratings drop under 1 million over the next decade and loses to Real Housewives of Salt Lake City or whatever other trash is on TV these days.
  11. Not to mention cancelling 1994, the White Sox' best World Series chance since 1917, and then the White Flag trade, the 2020 lockout, the 2021 lockout, hiring DUI guy, etc.
  12. Officials have zero reason to do the responsible thing, they aren't paying for it personally, get benefits politically if they "save the team". Paying for street improvements and other infrastructure is acceptable, I believe they do the same for other businesses but honestly I'm not certain. In turn, the Sox should pay property taxes like every other business for the first time since 1990. Handouts to Jerry, or companies like Boeing are not acceptable in 2023, shouldn't have been acceptable in the past. All it does is saddle remaining businesses and individual taxpayers, and future generations (servicing the $420 million debt and growing) with the tab.
  13. If Hahn is back, then Pedro must be back. Hahn can't be given a fourth / fifth chance at this. Hahn Robin says no to Hahn's 2016 extension. Hahn hires Ricky Renteria the next day with zero job search. Hahn Ricky given an extension after 2019. Hahn fires Ricky 63 games later after the Sox' best Hahn record. Jerry Hahn firing Ricky led to the Tony La Russa debacle, arguable a far worse manager. FY also to Jerry. Hahn Hahn signed his guy, Pedro Grifol, after Joe Espada interviewed and then after said he had zero interest working for Jerry and Hahn. Hahn gawn.
  14. Don't give him another penny. Not a penny. Cable, parking, tickets, concessions, merchandise. I have little faith the various worthless city, county and state leaders will do the responsible thing and tell him FY if he asks for yet more money. https://www.dailyherald.com/sports/20230821/report-reinsdorf-considering-moving-or-selling-the-white-sox https://www.nbcchicago.com/news/sports/report-white-sox-are-weighing-stadium-options-with-team-saying-discussions-havent-begun/3212014/
  15. The City wanted either a dual stadium (Sox and Bears) or stand alone Sox stadium at that location, but did not want to pledge any money toward it. https://www.chicagotribune.com/news/ct-xpm-1986-04-20-8601280690-story.html The city turned to the current location to avoid the infrastructure costs at the OG proposed site, and after Addison and DuPage County to Jerry to GFY. https://www.chicagotribune.com/news/ct-xpm-1986-12-02-8603310161-story.html Jerry dicked around until he got another $60M thrown into the 2016 deal July 1, 1988, avoiding state law by unplugging the clock before the end of June 30 and avoiding a supermajority vote. Too bad there weren't six more John Dunn's in the state capitol. https://www.washingtonpost.com/archive/sports/1988/07/01/illinois-legislators-pass-white-sox-incentive-plan/a5930fa6-ed51-4bbe-9506-01269d6c80d2/ Taxpayers owed $430 million between the stadium, and renovations for the f'ing Bears and Sox, debt that will be paid off until at least 2032, if not forever. https://www.chicagotribune.com/news/ct-sox-cell-funding-isfa-met-20160521-story.html
  16. Jake was in Los Angeles, home of In-n-Out. Also the best fast food burger, IMO. Song = Will fans still love Burger tomorrow / next season & beyond. February 10, 1971 Music Carole King, Lyrics Gerry Goffin (Carole's husband at the time)
  17. Touki Toussaint has one career appearance against Seattle, a start last season yielding a 13.50 ERA across 2 2/3 innings. Seattle is shifting to a 6 man rotation. Luis Castillo has two career starts against the Sox including one last season, with a 2.92 ERA and under 1.000 WHIP across 12 1/3 innings. The White Sox are a +150 or more underdog tonight, with money moving on Seattle since the opening line (Fan Dual Open -164 Seattle +138 Sox, Current -188 Seattle +158 Sox)
  18. He's also among the worst across MLB power categories with a significant drop off from merely bottom 1/4th - 1/3rd: https://baseballsavant.mlb.com/savant-player/andrew-benintendi-643217?stats=statcast-r-hitting-mlb Hard Hit & OAA 3rd percentile (97% are better) Brl % 4th xISO 5th EV 9th The Sox have had such bad fielders in LF, that he seems to be OK compared to an Eloy or Vaughn. Dayan Viciedo led the 2012 LF defense to the Top 10. Rick Hahn has not had a Top 10 defensive LF during his tenure. Top Ten MLB Team Defense (1st-10th) in a full season (2020 excluded): (Overall Rank - Primary Player) 2022 Catcher (4th overall - Yasmani Grandal 64 starts) 2017 First Base (6th overall - Jose Abreu 138 starts) 2023 Second Base (9th overall YTD - Elvis Andrus 46 starts) 2019 Third Base (5th overall - Yoan Moncada 128 starts) 2018 Shortstop (9th overall - Tim Anderson 151 starts) 2012 Left Field (10th overall - Dayan Viciedo 129 starts) 2023 Center Field (10th overall YTD - Luis Robert Jr. 115 starts) 2017 Right Field (9th overall - Avisail Garcia 131 starts) Last season for 2B and CF if Sox drop out of Top 10 before YE: 2017 Second Base (6th overall - Yolmer Sanchez 69 starts) 2019 Center Field (5th overall - Leury Garcia 71 starts *) Note * - Adam Engel played more total innings (608 1/3 vs. 573)
  19. Both Fangraphs and Baseball Reference indicate Benintendi is a below average left fielder this season, and having his worst season defensively in his career. Worst defensive season fWAR = 2023 (-10.5 YTD) https://www.fangraphs.com/players/andrew-benintendi/17901/stats?position=OF Worst defensive season bWAR = 2023 (-0.8 YTD) https://www.baseball-reference.com/players/b/beninan01.shtml
  20. SoxTalk Burgerettes can reap max profits by capitalizing on Burger prop bets on Draft Kings and elsewhere. https://www.playpicks.com/1060665/jake-burger-mlb-player-props-insights-marlins-padres-8-21-2023/ PLAYER PROP ODDS FOR BURGER Prop O/U Over Odds Hits 0.5 -145 Runs 0.5 -116 RBI 0.5 -123 Strikeouts 1.5 -104 In-n-Out Double Double Animal Style 1961 May 31, 1998
  21. They need to be expunged, both on campus and 35th & Shields. "Pride goeth before destruction, and an haughty spirit before a fall." - Proverbs 16:18 KJV North Shore gonna North Shore. Go Cats! Go Blow!
  22. The Yankees, Cubs and Dodgers claiming the top three spots makes me want to puke as well. There is hope, but it's going to take time, a whole lot of precious time. It's going to take patience and time, to do it right, child. It's also going to take money, a whole lot of spending money. It;s gonna take plenty of money, to do it right, child.
  23. That would make the Chicago Cubs the "South Side Team" comparatively. 3600 North Chicago Cubs 12000 North Arlington Heights White Sox

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