Chick Mercedes

Almost sounds as if he is Marcus Semien. Hope so.

Well that requires a bit of Rodrigues and Ramos education, help a brother out. I would expect a guy that is bandied about as a number one organizational prospect to bring a lot of tools and game to the table. What are we talking about here? I

Its an innocent uninformed inquiry. Relax Kemosabe

The Sox are built like a train to last. We were all pretty hopeful on a theoretical basis based on prospects etc, but you never know. This fanbase was pretty conditioned to be paranoid about anything working out because we aren’t used to nice things and have a lot of baggage lol. The change is probably a combination of commitment to winning which was more or less there to an extent already, but with a nod to finally ditching Kenny Williamsism for a more traditional approach all the other kids were doing. The Sox still have pioneered some things along the way, like these early long term contracts.

It would be hard to argue the Sox wouldn’t be in better shape in the present and future if Machado was here though. An unfathomable pile of assets that Hahn would have an easy time flipping forward indefinitely. They can still do that if they want, just not as extreme of an embarrassment of riches as it would have been. But we happy. I don’t think the Sox really put themselves in a situation to compete for him realistically with the deal they offered. The Sox approach was runninh a Jedi mind trick on Machado’s agent…..take this deal, we think it is better, even if it is not the deal you want. So you know, we could not have it our way like Burger King, he was never gonna be ours. Losing out on Manny wasn’t a loss because we were never a good match for his market.

The situation at the time was that the Sox desperately wanted to step up in class as a team, and Machado was a way to get it done. There’s a hella lot to be said for an infield of Machado, Anderson, and Moncada. That was the way to look at it. Replacing Tatis Jr as best as humanly possible is kind of the cleansing move fans were thinking about in the back of their minds imo. It would have been very expensive to wash away the original sin, sure. But the Sox have maintained and progressed somewhat anyway, which is nice. When you look at the money it is going to take to pay some of our guys on their next deals, Machado’s deal would have likely necessitated a trade or two down the line, rolling some assets forward. Depends on how you view it, it is probably not a forgone conclusion either way which is preferable. But adding an extra asset like Machado was always going to be a huge move forward, again simply as an additional asset to the mix rapidly growing the team. Or something that would have made the organization whole again (almost)

I keep seeing (Rodriguez) name mentioned. So what is his claim to talent? Defense? His hitting seems a little above league average, but nothing special. And Ramos. Ramos DHs half the time and hits about league average. I assume league average is about .250.

Cool. Gotta say, I love Shirley’s bulldog approach on these upside highschoolers. The Kanny kids are having problems and he’s like fuck that. I am going back in. If he fails it won’t be because he didn’t dare to take risks. Glad to be a team that is aggressive.

Lets hope the Sox are able to land this Butler kid https://www.southsidesox.com/2021/7/13/22575866/white-sox-take-outfielder-cameron-butler-in-the-15th-round-455th-overall

I think what is actually missing is that he doesn’t feature his speed in any real way. If he did, this is probably a different conversation, even without the homers. He is solid of course . Just that he is one of those guys that leaves you wanting more. You would like to see him retire here, but he’ll need to step it up for that to be a forgone conclusion. I don’t believe the team will overpay for him when the time comes in the current form.

The rest of it is, he can be an underslot signing to save money so they can take another flyer if the right player is there to overpay. I don’t know about the players taken after, but they all had one or two scouting questions just like Montgomery does. So little to none sacrifices in the talent department for the value.

Is this a good draft? His physical specimen profile at short seems like the type that goes in the top 15 usually.

I don’t know, I have read Corey Seager upside. All you can ask for lol

Colson Montgomey, nice

Watson fell to 16.

Does Kopech have 6Ks in a row? Anyway, he’s already a high leverage closer guarantee. Pretty pretty pretty yyy good.

The most overlooked area is the lack of production from international free agency. (Non Cuban mega contract variety players) Lots of work to do there, and then stop trading them away when you have them. Surprising success with the draft picks lately picking up steam. The Sox can finish the job and maintain success. Will they?

I don’t want to belabor this, but by ising the logic given, Rodon is rested and ready more than anything. Prior seasons dont tend to be involved in the calculus. Rodon built gimself up for a full season and he should be ready for it. Its a fair point or theory if you will, but there is no demonstrable proof behind it. The more load management becomes implemented in sports, the more injuries we seem to see imo.. As long as we are putting unproven ideas into the ether, I would guess that everyone throwing 97 mph and bulking up has done more damage than playing a gosh darn full season.

I tun marathons all the time. Chicago matathon upcoming. Anyway, Kind of not the same thing

Right? And Lebron Kawahi and all the rest of them whining about their minutes and too many games waaa waaa and still getting hurt. Bunch of new age malarkey

People still buy into this load management crap smdh.

In retrospect I will grant that Mercedes did not achieve yet the status to expect more careful respect and a defense from his own manager. But wrong is wrong so no apology there.

If healthy. Well that sounds like an upset if it ever lasts a month. And not that much if any really.

Nm. Just noticed the date. But those kind of longer term upside prospects for a rental, not too keen on. The Sox are kind of in a rough spot. Thompson sucking right now makes it conceivable, but still. Id rather do pitchers like Stiever/Lambert types. As the franchise that dumped a precocious 17 year old once

Well I am looking at keeping guys that can still pitch in the normal spin rate era. Rodon and Lynn yes. Probably Kopech.Not so sure about Gio. Don’t really know about Cease either, but he’s cheap atm on the back burner. Thats the way to build a staff right now. If anyone is a suspect under pressure it is Gio.