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To the Oz haters who blast me mercilessly for supporting him ... this guy covers baseball for a living and wrote that sentence, so at least admit some people think the guy can manage!!! Thank you. To the Oz haters who blast me mercilessly for supporting him ... this guy covers baseball for a living and wrote that sentence, so at least admit some people think the guy can manage!!! Thank you. To the Oz haters who blast me mercilessly for supporting him ... this guy covers baseball for a living and wrote that sentence, so at least admit some people think the guy can manage!!! Thank you.

Kalapse, with all due respect, you and fathom sometimes act like Oz isn't watching the game. I was watching the game and sensed Bobby still had a chance to get out of it, though I wasn't sure, and Oz left him in. Sometimes I think you guys think Oz is some guy who has never seen a baseball game. Do you realize his experience??? Also just curious .. if Oz had yanked him and brought in a reliever who lost the game, me thinks fathom still woulda blamed Oz. Cause he wouldn't have brought in the reliever you wanted. Personally I'm glad I see in Oz a winner and can go by most of his decisions. You guys seem to want another manager and ifyou got one, believe me, you'd be all over that guy, too, cause they all get second guessed. It's too easy. s*** ... any defeat in sports and you can second guess the skipper. Don't you see that???

Good point, Krush. Hope your Illini fare well this season!

That my friend is the difference betweenyou and me and the Oz haters. They fail to realize IMO there is a reason we finally won a World Series, it is the intangibles Oz brings. They go by specific decisions that 90 percent of all managers would make the same move as Ozzie and if the move fails they blast him. They feel they are right and laugh at me and others who suggest Oz might be right. Folks ... Oz is not trying to reinvent the game. He makes the same decisions all managers make. You act like he is a fricking buffoon. He has been around the game 25 years. He is not a moron. What separates him is what this poster said. We can agree to disagree but I wish some of you guys would consider the intangibles and realize ALL managers can be second guessed on decisions. Frick, where do you think the term arm chair quarterback and second guessing came from????? Oz IMO is a genius. I love the guy.

It was?

I can understand your and fathom's position on wanting to cut the losses and have Thornton come in, but Jenks has had outings where he's been ineffective and still sucked it up and gotten the save before. My point is he's our closer and I wanted him to close and Oz did what all managers do. They let their closers either get the save or blow it. They don't yank em for matchups.

OK fathom, but why won't you address the situation of our medical staff obviously saying he was able to pitch. If he's deemed fit to pitch ... it now seems to me you want Ozzie to be a mindreader and decide, 'Wait, I've been told he can pitch and is able to close, but I truly feel he's hurt, so I better get him out of there.' That's what I don't understand about your position. It seems to me you wanted Ozzie to be a mindreader. This is a team for a reason. Doctors clear players to play. If he's not 100 percent he should not have been on tonight's available to perform list, like Crede was not on the available to perform list.

I don't think he should have been pulled until they tied it. He's our closer. He was deemed fit to pitch by our trainer. All managers have a list of personnel deemed either fit to pitch or not. What is so difficult to accept my position that we had a two run lead and we brought in our closer to start the inning. Our closer failed. To understand your position better ... if Bobby was healthy do you agree he should have been allowed to either get the save or blow the save, not be removed at any point just because he appeared to not have it? I think it's safe to say ALL managers put in their closers with a 2 run lead or one run lead and it is the closer's game. So if Bobby is healthy do you agree he should be allowed to either get the save or blow it? YES OR NO? If you are addressing the Jenks is hurt situation ... can't you accept my position that if he's deemed fit to pitch by the trainer then he is our closer and again, closers ALWAYS are allowed to finish the job. You don't yank a closer until the game is tied? Again ... what manager does that? I can understand you thinking Oz should pull him because he's hurt and ineffective. I disagree because he obviously was cleared to pitch by our doctors. That means he's Jenks and Jenks closes games for the White Sox.

He is? I would disagree with that. I love everything about the guy. His quotes are legendary.

It really was a great moment. Great call by Hawk. Those fans were going crazy. I wonder if any were dumb enough to leave early. I bet most stayed to watch the dramatics. Did AJ really toss the bat toward the Tribe dugout? Awesome.

That was amazing. Coming right back after the Tribe took the lead on us. Paulie base hit; AJ boom. We win. Nice.

A regular sacrifice bunt like all NL teams can execute, sure.

If you want to blame Ozzie, here's where I'll accept the criticism. This game was lost when with runners on first and second we can't ask AJ to bunt because we know he can't get the runners over. We need to bunt there with the 2 run lead to expand it. We can't bunt because our guys can't bunt. If that is Oz's fault then I can accept that if you blame him for having a team that can't f***ing bunt. But putting in Jenks ... my god.

Because guys, the way teams do it is the f***ing trainer deems if a guy if fit to play or not. That's why they call it a TEAM. If the f***ing trainer and GM deem the guy fit to play he is our CLOSER. He gets the call. He failed; but if you want to blame the manager every night, have at it. When are you going to blame our f***ing players????

It's easy to understand fathom. If he's cleared to play, then he's cleared to play. You ever played hurt in a sport???? What can't you understand about a closer being put in to close??? You don't yank him. You let him get the save or fail like EVERY f***ing manager in baseball does!!!!!

Kalapse name one situation in baseball, one manager who puts in the closer in a 2 run game and doesn't let him finish or blow it in the process. My god.

I wish I could live in your world where you just blame the manager. It was a cut and dried close situation. If he's hurt don't have him on the roster have him on the DL. Our team sucks. If you feel better blaming the manager every loss, have at it. I'm sick of our pathetic TEAM.

I'm sick of this manager crap. The closer was given a two run lead. You don't yank the closer even if he is pathetic like tonight. Our team is a joke all the way around.

Give me a break. The closer closes. He failed! Case closed. It's all on Jenks.

How can you possibly blame Ozzie for that?? It's ALL on Jenks

I'm still superstitious so I'm out. If I stay we'll lose for sure. Peace out.

Fathom called it. They are scoring this inning ... how many runs is the only question. I say three to five.

A broken bat triple!!!! Our Sox stink sooo bad.

He broke his bat and whacks it all the way to the wall! That's how bad el Freddie is and our Sox are!!! Yikes.

Is Hafner playing tonight? I missed it. If he is ... BOMB, home run. Adios. p.s. I love Sizemore. We must get him on our team.