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"Someone else" isn't all that much better if better at all.

Don't say this on that other thread. I was buried for saying our bullpen sucks except for Bobby. Thornton costs us one game against the Twins last week; Mac Dougal the other, but they are great ya know.

I may be off base in all your minds but I can't believe the entire Sox fan base thinks our skipper is terrible. If I got to go to games at the Cell would everybody be grumbling and wanting Oz's head? I can't believe a majority of our fans think he sucks. I think he's a good manager. I think our talent is suspect in many areas. Call me a dumbass but that's my take.

Let me throw it back at you. You all think BA is fine? An everyday player? Tell me why.

As far as Mack in cf ... he obviously thinks BA is not ready for everyday duty and despite the love of BA on here the guy is hitting .233 with 32 rbis and 43 runs scored in 300 at bats. He does not deserve to be an everyday player right now. Who is the backup? The roster says it's mack. I agree he's horrible; I don't blame Oz. I blame the moving of Rowand. We shoulda found another way to get Thome. BA wasn't ready for prime time and yes I realize he's hitting .300 or whatever it is the last couple months. Well I'd say I've seen probably only 20 games the whole way through. Saw em play live in KC a couple times also. Parts of other games. I am not some moron. I know my team, have followed the Sox for many many years. I may disagree with you but I think I am well informed fan.

I follow em closely every day and watch as many as i can on TV. I know all our players skills very well. In other words, I'm educated on our team. I may not be able to rattle off all the "good" outings from Thornton and Mac but I have seen some bad ones on the telly and in game reports. You can't tell me Ozuna and Mack are better than Pods. No way.

OK you say Pods shoulda been benched in May. That means you think Ozuna and Mack are better options. I don't. Neither of those guys are better than Pods. No way.

I give Ozzie a free pass because he's going with the guys provided to him by KW. I think I don't have as high an opinion as a lot of our players as some of you do. I tend to blame players more than managers unless they are obviously in over their heads like Bevington.

Why do Thornton and Mac get a free pass when they were responsible for 2 key losses vs. the Twins and Oz is blamed for everything on here? I am just saying when those guys trot in there I am not confident. Can you honestly say you are happy when both come in??

Thornton got the loss in the loss, immediately getting shelled when he came in against the Twins last Sat. at the Cell which sucked since we'd battled back only to lose in the 11th cause of him. The day before it was Mac in the ninth who got shelled and cost us that game. I realize two games do not make a career, but in both cases they got shelled and got the loss and I think deserve blame for those s*** efforts. Maybe their stats are good, but I wouldn't call either totally reliable. If I'm wrong then I'm wrong. I don't get to see as many games as you all. You got to admit they sucked in both those outings which were not long ago.

Help me out here. You are saying McDougal, Thornton, Riske and Cotts have been good? If I am out of line, lemme know. I consider none of those four guys reliable.

Well both those guys you mentioned cost us games in the past week.

I also thought that'd be good bulletin board material if indeed big league teams use bulletin board material like college teams.

It really is demoralizing. They are folding. It is (was) there for the taking. Can you imagine if we swept the Royals like we should have and Tampa Bay? We'd be motoring. Now we have to face facts; we're not gonna sweep Boston and some of the good teams we have to still face. Demoralizing like you say.

You said it all, critic. Can we somehow get in?

You really believe this??

It's gonna be close. I think you lose the bet.

I think we'll lose 2 of 3 minimum and could get swept. Hope I'm wrong.

I said halfway reliable starters we have two (Jon and Mark). Yes all those things were evident in June and KW could have done something about it. How is that Oz's fault. Rather than blame Ozzie which is the easy way out IMO, I personally don't think our team is pennant caliber when our starters are average to below average. Face facts. Our bullpen sucks with the exception of Jenks. Our starters have been s*** with the exception of Jon; despite the BA love, he has not been a productive hitter; Pods has been terrible. Uribe hasn't hit s*** this season. AJ has been pretty good. That leaves us with the four studs Dye, Thome, Konerko, Crede. They have had powerful years with the bat, but unable to carry a team with no starting pitching and a weak bullpen. Pitching always has been the name of the game. We ain't got it this year and HOW IS THAT OZZIE'S FAULT???? I love Oz. Go Sox!

Screw the bad managing. We're an average team at best. Two halfway reliable starters. OK pretty reliable starters. Average to bad bullpen. Good closer. No team speed. Bad season from a key player (Pods, Uribe) We are what we are. Not very good right now.

Hey, Redman's an all star, how ya expect our lineup to beat him?

Our pitching scares nobody except when it's on a highlight video of last year's run to the title.

I hope Frank blasts the Sox all he wants if they go the distance. First of all he won't do that because he'll be too busy celebrating with his new teammates. Our organization thought Frank was done; he wasn't. Frank is only the best Sox player of all time. He can do whatever he wants. and to the comment about those of us who drink the Thomas koolaid I take offense to that. Just because I think Thomas is a f***ing stud and don't drink the KW koolaide doesn't mean I worship Hurt. I feel very happy for Hurt and hope he blasts the Sox all he wants if he wins it all.

Playing Sweeney is something that could spark us. Forget Ozuna and Mack. Try Sweeney over Pods.

If we need to replace Pods I'd rather roll the dice and play Sweeney and see if he can pull a miracle the last month. I don't wanna see Ozuna or Mack play much. Sorry I don't.