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Terrible ending to the season for the Indians. They were so hot in that one stretch this has to be considered a very classic fail. Even with their great skipper he has to feel really really low at this point.

QUOTE (TheFutureIsNear @ Oct 12, 2017 -> 01:11 AM) I'll start it off with my suggestion...Maikel Franco from the Phillies. They need pitching and have some infield depth. Wouldn't mind throwing a couple of our pitching prospects at the Phillies if they want to unload Franco. Wouldn't include any of Gio, Lopez, Kopech, Cease, or Hanson though. Who are some young names you'd like to see us acquire for relatively cheap this off season? I hope we're not at the point where we want to trade the guys we got for the next WS team for other prospects. This madness has to stop. You take the guys we got and for better or worse they are the core of our next WS team. The trading is done unless you want to trade Avi and Abreu which I think is dumb. But the young guys we got in trades?? Geez we can't be talking about trading them. This is madness. At some point soon we need to win again. How many years in a row do you want to go sub .500?? 20-30 years in a perpetual rebuild? I repeat .. we do not trade the guys we've already traded for!!

QUOTE (Dick Allen @ Oct 11, 2017 -> 07:36 PM) People in power abuse people in all different ways. Sexually is probably worse, but I would imagine almost everyone has had some sort of "boss" at some point in their life who treated them like crap because they could. Affleck is more than likely a phony with his outrage. Weinstein is far from the only one in Hollywood. They are all over the place, and it has nothing to do with political party affiliation. The fact that Trump who grabs them by the p**** because he is a "star", and his buddies Ailes and O'Reilly , very fine people, wants to make this poitical is pretty hysterical. Democrats do it. Republicans do it. Independents do it. Interesting post. I just hope those who do this wind up in jail if they are guilty of crimes.

QUOTE (Quin @ Oct 11, 2017 -> 06:10 PM) Those legitimately are the acts of a petulant child, not a competitor. Cmon. We don't agree Chris Sale is a competitor? QUOTE (southsider2k5 @ Oct 11, 2017 -> 06:15 PM) He got thrown out of a game for fighting, went over the opposing teams lockerroom and offered to fight the whole team while pounding on the door like a madman. IIRC, it was only an ex-teammate who talked him into going back to his own lockerroom before he did something that would have really gotten him in trouble. Yeah I wasn't trying to condone his behavior here. Like I said Sale probably could have gotten arrested if he hit somebody in that Royals incident. I think people are being way too hard on Sale. He had to pay for the uniform incident by getting suspended and paying for the jerseys. The Royals incident thankfully for him proved to be nothing of substance except him embarrassing himself and the team. And the LaRoche thing is basically nothing. He sided with his buddy, not management. I mean the incidents are regrettable, but lots of players screw up, like the ones who beefed up using steroids and got suspended for it but were allowed to return to the game. I still think with a proper manager and front office people we could have contended with Sale and Q as the top two pieces of our rotation. I wonder if some of the Sale hate on here is simply people wanting to again back the front office for not trying to win divisions with Sale and Q leading the way instead choosing to rebuild. I am a big Sale fan, though I was disturbed whenever he refused to come out of games, giving Robin the stare.

Rose McGowan is being heroic in all this on Twitter. Ben Affleck tweeted some expression of horror at Weinstein and McGowan lashed out at Affleck saying he knew what Harvey was doing. This story is very sad and horrible; just like the Cosby story.

QUOTE (Quin @ Oct 11, 2017 -> 05:02 AM) - Cutting up jerseys to get his way - Tried to fight opposing teams - DrakeGate And there's more. I like Sale and appreciate what he did on the South Side, but it's easy to dislike him. Meanwhile Quintana pitches for the damn Cubs and you've got people pulling for him because he was essentially the heir to Mark Buehrle Since it's off season and I like Sale I'll respond further. ... - Cutting up jerseys to get his way (I like it. He warned the team he didn't want to pitch in those jerseys. It's been revealed he had concern for his health pitching in them. Maybe he should have just boxed them up and hid them rather than take the scissors to them though; He got punished for it. Many players have screwed up before and will again). - Tried to fight opposing teams (Geez that's nitpicking. He's a fierce competitor. Probably is his undoing but it's still not a bad trait; I guess he could have got arrested in KC for looking for a fight after the game in the KC locker room but whatever). - DrakeGate (Drake Gate forced playes to take sides. He took the LaRoche side of it; I like guys who will go against the front office once in a while). Kind of silly to make one of our best pitchers ever a total enemy on here.

QUOTE (fathom @ Oct 9, 2017 -> 11:33 PM) Makes me happy to know he lost two games. Must not have liked the playoff patch on his arm Somebody needs to make a list of players who are actually liked on this board besides prospects. Why the Sale venom?

Do you realize the Cubs are about to win 2 straight WS? After all those years of futility? If this happens, Theo and Maddon should be immediately inducted into the Hall. These are the Cubs glory years. Can you imagine if the Sox take over after the little Cub dynasty years? Chicago is the king of the sports world (not that I am embracing the Cubs). But with all these Blackhawks titles and the Jordan era not so long ago, the Cubs, Blackhawks, Bulls and White Sox will have a lot of world championships for this city.

QUOTE (hi8is @ Oct 7, 2017 -> 03:31 AM) 300k vs. 2 - 8 mm Thanks. Then we have no chance at all.

QUOTE (ptatc @ Oct 7, 2017 -> 02:14 AM) It's pretty much the whole neighborhood. We have Friday night get togethers every other week with a group of about 5-6 families. I did buy refreshments that week. Now that's what the good ol USA is all about. I love it. I toast your neighborhood.

QUOTE (Dam8610 @ Oct 6, 2017 -> 10:45 PM) Otani doesn't appear to be in this for the money. If he was, he'd play in Japan for 2 more years and not be restricted by the international amateur free agent rules. Even if someone maxed out their pool and hadn't spent any money on international free agents to that point, Otani is still likely giving up close to $200 million to get here 2 years earlier. I hope the White Sox get in on him, figure out what it is that he's looking for, and offer it to him. He fits the rebuild timeline very well, and it would be interesting to see if he can succeed as a two-way player, and what the White Sox might do with that. But how much can the Sox offer him compared to others? I mean he will want to leave only so much $$ on the table to sign with the Sox. Getting this guy would be awesome.

QUOTE (hi8is @ Oct 6, 2017 -> 09:56 PM) I really should introduce you to my ex-wife... are you in the market for romance? Is that cause I don't give up easily in arguments?

QUOTE (ptatc @ Oct 6, 2017 -> 08:29 PM) Wow. I rarely lock my doors. I've actually gone to work and forgot to close my door. A neighbor called me at work and called me a dumbf**k and because he had to close my door. My wife wasn't too happy that day. Luckily, i had locked the dogs up that day. That's cool you have a neighbor looking out for you. I assume he was kidding with the "dumbf***" line. You must be good pals. Did u buy him a beer or cup of java for his protection?

QUOTE (hi8is @ Oct 6, 2017 -> 06:00 AM) Young players are gonna take their licks and have various issues to overcome. They do call it "development" for a reason and 99% of the time player progression is not linear. What's the gripe with Burger? He had a respectful debut. The only real disappointing season was Rutherford's lack of power. Even his season wasn't a total bomb. I'm confident that both of them will see vast improvements next year... and add Collins to the "likely to improve next year" crowd. Lopez and Giolito both excelled late in the season so much that they forced their ways onto the major league roster. Urg... I don't even know why I continue to speak logically to you about anything related to the rebuild. Here, let's try something new: Juda kopa leekey tradun zabetduc za, za!!! Smooch smooch wink wink honk honk smack smack. It wasn't me who questioned the guys I mentioned. I was talking about posts on Soxtalk. I've already read some 'concern' about Rutherford, Collins, Lopez and Burger. And of course Fulmer. And Rodon bless his soul is a ? mark now cause of injury. I'm not the one expressing the concern. I'm feeling concern after reading the post or two wondering about those guys.

QUOTE (southsideirish71 @ Oct 6, 2017 -> 07:00 PM) Sample size is amazing. This is one start. His slider was flat, his velocity was still good and he was missing his spots a bit. Thats the difference in missing bats and looking like Cy Young. Lets give him a few starts before we declare him to be a bust in the playoffs. Exactly. If Red Sox fans are blasting him they are idiots. He got lit up. It happens. Like you said let's see what happens next time.

QUOTE (chitownsportsfan @ Oct 6, 2017 -> 05:43 PM) Yea with Sale it was a cumulative thing. Breaking his foot in spring training stupidly horsing around. Helping to escalate the La Roche situation by taking the side of La Roche and publicly spatting with the GM. Cutting up the jerseys. And all that is separate from the very real phenomenon, which we all saw, of him getting too amped up on the mound when he doesn't have his best stuff, over throwing, and making his stuff even worse because he's missing his spots by a good foot or more. He's a red ass. I played the same way and although Sale has more talent in his left toe than I do in my whole body I can tell you I rarely played well angry. That's a cool perspective on playing angry. The 'only' thing I didn't like about Sale here was he's one of those Verlander (in his prime) types who won't take coaching. He'd be mad as hell if Robin dare take him out of a game early. In Chris' mind early sometimes was the 8th or 9th. The rest of your post however shows how different I am from this board. I didn't mind the LaRoche kid being in the clubhouse. Not at all. And I didn't mind Sale cutting up the jerseys. I mean who cares? Those jerseys were hideous. Read this story. Sale didn't think he could physically pitch in that monstrocity jersey. He expressed his concern beforehand. Did you all want him to get hurt pitching in the jersey? He knew he was going to pay for the jerseys. Did he inconvenience any of the players? Not at all. he saved them from wearing those ridiculous jerseys. Not saying you, chitownsportsfan, but I tire of the majority on here backing our questionable front office all the time. Sale gave the front office a chance to reverse its decision on using those jerseys OR they could have worn them on a day Sale didn't pitch. http://ftw.usatoday.com/2016/07/chris-sale...ss-first-jersey

I haven't read the stories. Can somebody summarize this for us? Sox have little to no chance of signing this guy because "............." I am 'assuming' it's cause we just spent all that dough on Robert and aren't allowed to bid much and we can't even compete in the ballpark $$ wise. Is that correct? If this is the case ... wouldn't it have been smarter to go for this guy instead of Robert? Isn't this guy pretty much a can't miss pitching/hitting star?

QUOTE (South Sider @ Oct 6, 2017 -> 05:43 AM) Helps make the Sox look a little smarter in dealing him, as bittersweet as it is to say. I'd be very disappointed in a performance like that from Sale had our Sox actually made the postseason with him. It was one game. On the road. Against a good lineup. Sale's been off for six weeks. That's more concerning than one game. QUOTE (ron883 @ Oct 6, 2017 -> 05:57 AM) It's a shame we decided to trade Chris Sale and rebuild. Some of us fans hate losing this much and would rather see a fringe playoff team that may get to the wild card game and then get beaten down when Sale starts it Tough crowd here. The sample size isn't that great on Sale. If he's washed up, fine. Moncada could be a superstar who plays every day. I will be happy cause I want to win.

QUOTE (ron883 @ Oct 6, 2017 -> 05:52 AM) Ready to eat some crow greg? Cmon, give the guy a break. Read this as a matter of fact. The author here says he's been in a 6-week funk. Maybe he is another guy who can't last a long season and sucks at the end. I wouldn't write him off though. He got lit up by a good lineup on the road. Let's see how he does next time. But as of now I can't really defend Sale's performance. He was rotten but I don't think we can write him off as some kind of bum. Now am I to eat crow about the trade? I said I like Moncada a lot already. But I still say Sale and Q provided a nice 1-2 punch and in my world we build a team around that not the rebuild. https://www.cbssports.com/mlb/news/red-sox-...a-choker-takes/

The underhedline on this post is kind of classless. Sale is still a great pitcher. He did get hammered today. Anybody watch it? What was the problem? We saw some rare bad Sale starts with the Sox as well. Stuff happens.

I realize my fellow Republicans are mostly to blame for this, but there should be a law that forbids Americans for having assault weapons. It's common sense, people. It should be very very difficult to obtain weapons of mass destruction at the very least. I know there's the argument, "he would have found a way to get weapons." Maybe, but cmon. It's not that difficult. Ordinary citizens can't acquire these weapons legally. Let's use common sense and change some things.

QUOTE (Balta1701 @ Oct 5, 2017 -> 01:45 PM) BUT DON'T KNEEL FOR THE NATIONAL ANTHEM. So you won't accept the fact I consider that a "team" issue? Wrong for one guy to be on an island in a team sport. QUOTE (StrangeSox @ Oct 5, 2017 -> 02:14 PM) greg just doesn't really "get" civil disobedience I get that they had to spend 16 hours in jail, get booked, post bail, now have court dates to get sentenced to jail or probation and now can't find a job that pays squat the rest of their lives. I watched the 45 minute Reb Z video of their protest on the highway and subsequent arrests. Chanting s*** that nobody hears cept a couple hundred youtubers and ultimately getting arrested does not seem so smart to me.

I was wrong. Big time protests Tuesday in St. Looie. The protestors shut down a highway and 143 people paid for it by getting arrested. So because these people blocked a highway which is very dangerous, their lives are basically ruined. The protestors will never be able to find jobs as they all will have serious charges on their records. All because the are unwilling to protest legally. They've got to go block a highway even though it's been documented time and again they are preventing people from taking loved ones to hospitals on said highway. More power to those arrested I guess. In standing up for what they believe (as dumb as it is to march on a highway; I pray no people who needed to get to the hospital died on the highway) they've sacrificed future paychecks for this half-assed protest. Now if they protested LEGALLY, in front of city hall during the day or something, they might have actually gotten some publicity. Instead they protest at night, shut down a highway, get kettled, arrested, need to pay for bail, a lawyer. And the only publicity they get is from youtubers on the scene. So to all the dads out there, if your son or daughter marched on a highway illegally for this cause and got arrested, would you approve? Would you be happy? Would you be willing to support them the rest of their lives, cause they won't be working any high paying jobs with this on their records? Look ... it's f***ing stupid to break the law in protest of issues. It's fine to protest LEGALLY. It's great to protest legally. But tell me, if your relatives were arrested for this, you'd be proud? Or furious?

QUOTE (iamshack @ Oct 4, 2017 -> 07:25 PM) It is truly amazing how much heroism human beings can show in the face of immense danger. And yet, many of us treat one another like complete s*** on a daily basis, under normal circumstances. Really an interesting juxtaposition of human nature. I was thinking about this the other day. You are right. After hurricanes, people drive 200 miles with their boats and rescue strangers. In an incident like this, heroes galore. Strangers helping strangers. But like you said, on a daily basis, what's with all the terrorism so to speak in the workplace. People grabbing power and terrorizing people, stepping on people at work, backstabbing. Road rage for no reason. People screaming at fastfood workers, basically a caste system in which people with money s*** on the little guy all the time. It's crazy. Yet in crisis time after time, people help people. You said it best in your last sentence. Perfect words written by you to express the sentiment. That said, thank you on behalf of humanity to the heroes in Las Vegas. Thank you. And screw you to all the morons who do the other things I mentioned in this post. Shame on you people in America who do not embrace the golden rule.

QUOTE (Jose Paniagua @ Oct 4, 2017 -> 05:02 PM) Bill James Online‏ @billjamesonline 1m1 minute ago More Tim Anderson of the White Sox had an official At Bat in 97% of his plate appearances, highest in the majors. Bill James Handbook 2018. I wonder if Tim's .257 batting average is one of the best all time of anybody with as many as 587 at bats and an official at bat in 97 percent of plate appearances. You draw 13 walks all season, it's very unlikely you are going to hit much higher than .257 just because of the laws of probability I'd think.