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I'd keep him and make him a starter.

Isn't Kopech a home run machine? Great fastball no movement ... boom!

I agree. However to be fair I think the board was aghast at hiring him after the DUI in which he appeared pretty messed up on video. That was case closed for most fans. Furious that he got hired after the DUI. I think he got hired a few months after the arrest and JR acknowledged he knew about it. La Russa has a pretty big ego. I doubt he'd want all these losses to go on his all time record. Surprised Popovich is hanging on for the same reason. Loss after loss piled onto the all time record. Tony's ego wouldn't like 20-60 records.

Man I don't see why anybody would trade good players for Kopech. He's not that dandy.

Hope they were good seats and u got free parking too.

Nice sentence. Worded nicely. Will be interesting to see how different the roster will be in August.

Five hits? What's up with the bats during the raging hot month of June? Crochet goes 5 innings? Not sure why anyone would trade for him when he's about reached his innings limit on the season. They want him for ... next season. Oh, OK. Makes sense lol. Says a lot that the Sox best pitcher is about done for the season apparently or the reduced workload is comin.' Robert is up to .198. What a sensational talent. Peace out.

Sellout tonight? I mean this is an elite team visiting the Cell.

You'd have to be heartless to blast Eloy. His body just won't play sports without constant injury. Now can you be mad at the trainers and doctors? I think so unless they've told him how to prevent these things and he doesn't listen. One of the biggest busts in Chicago sports history. At least one of the saddest stories in Chicago history.

I wonder who next year's DeJong's, Mandy's and Lopez's will be. Madrigal will prolly find his way back.

I'll never criticize a post that criticizes JR cause he is despicable in a sports owner sense. I guess my problem is it pains me to see the team trade its only MLB caliber players for some reason. The idea of Crochet, Robert, Lee, Eloy turning into Tatises with other franchises kind of pains me. Also I'm old school to think players like that can help turn a moribund team like the Sox around.

And if we make the moves that are likely to happen it'll be a 7-23 start next April.

At least u are consistent. You demand new ownership before u take anything the Sox do noteworthy. JR somehow got that magical title in 2005. Otherwise he'd be known as the worst BASEBALL owner in history. He won all those titles in basketball.

This is another one of those "Sox should not be in MLB" type game. Trot a guy name Cannon out there to get hammered. Not even competitive again. I wish they'd just contract the Sox. Mabe we could get an expansion team.

Did they leave him in the game? Poor guy needs a body makeover. All he does is tweak stuff.

Very true. But to have an historically bad record you need to be rotten in all phases. And with my scenario the starting pitching would be mediocre to B- grade scale. Add two non pathetic bullpen arms (Jerry won't pay for them however which would be a problem) and maybe we creeping toward .500.

Hmmm ... Think of Sox rotation had they kept Cease and Lopez to go with our two good starters now. Yikes. And some want to tank?

Funny you mention a funeral. To show you how crazed a Sox family I'm from in case you ever think I'm lying or trolling about my Sox fandom ... My dad died about 5 years ago in his 70s. I went back home of course and being the only remaining practicing Catholic in the family (my dad was big Catholic; a Eucharistic minister and all that) I stacked the Mass with the most touching, emotional songs and readings in our Mass repertoire cause I wanted to respect my dad that way. We still have some impactful songs and readings if you look for them. Anyhow ... I'm in my mom's living room looking through old pictures for the funeral home montage and I see a White Sox sweatshirt and pants draped on a chair. At some point after looking at that for several hours, I said to my mom, 'What is all this Sox stuff?' My mom said, "We have to take that to the funeral home. It's what your dad will wear (in casket and forevermore). I said, 'What?? He doesn't work for the White Sox!! He had a great career at the Board of Trade as a zillionaire broker and was a great dresser, proud of his suits, ties, etc. There is no way you are burying him in Sox gear!" To my mom's credit, she calmly said "You are right I don't know what I was thinking," and went to get a suit and tie out of his closet to bring to the funeral home to bury him in. I apologized for raising my voice but I said, "No way he is being buried in gear of a franchise that drove him crazy as much as gave him a bit of enjoyment. He wasn't an employee of the team or anything." Geez. Just thought I'd add that to point out my background in fandom which is intense regarding the inept Sox.

Probably true and this is why I should just dump finally being a Sox fan. It infuriates me. There's no reason to play Beni or keep Beni. Write it off as a misplaced expense, fire whoever wanted the guy in the first place. Finally ... I think your position is nothing matters til Jerry sells the team. So go ahead and complete another tank/rebuild. My position in a nutshell is the division we are in sucks. It doesn't take much to contend. With the pitching staff looking average now (you said it's a small sample size so I do realize that) and the everyday lineup two proven solid hitters away from being average to a little below average and the bullpen 2 solid guys from being average, there is hope if you do it my way. Yes the Sox are the worst team in baseball by far but not many moves from being a .440 team and with a good manager maybe a .480 team.

Geez Joe Joe: Fedde might bring a fair prospect; Pham and DeJong will bring nothing of future value. I wouldn't mind trading any one of those 3 but they aren't going to bring squat. You could DFA Fedde and DeJong and there's be marginal interest. So you are saying they aren't making any controversial trades: Crochet, Eloy, Robert, Vaughn, Lee. Fine by me.

Lip I respect you but even u have to admit the pitching has been good to excellent the last two weeks. Hitting still reeks to high heaven but I'm not making it up that Sheets and Lee and Vaughn have hit a bit better. Robert and Eloy will be in there together soon to provide (on paper) a respectable 1-2 punch at 3 and 4 however Eloy is close to being finished in my mind. I may be too optimistic, Lip, but I don't understand why you don't agree with me on the pitching part of it. Not sure why Jerry minds dumping Beni. Anybody with 1/3 of a brain knows he provides zero value. Would be nice to get rid of the zero value guys like Beni and Maldy for starters. And I'd put DeJong in that group. Dump him.

Man ... I'm not the BEST business person but to write off 2025, 26 and 27, how can that business stay open? And our division is cleveland, detroit, kc, minnie; one big LOL. And we can't compete til 27 or 28? Geez. I think with my plan (which only requires adding 4 players) Sox have a chance at .500 which means contention. I could be wrong.

Not sure what that will accomplish especially with the team close in terms of being strong in one area instead of abysmal in three areas.

As long as I have disposable income and am not close to being broke I will remain a big tipper. HOWEVER I can see not tipping on this can issue. Out of principle. Beer prices at sporting events are evil. Case closed.

True dat but entering the season we had nothing. Now we have excellent starting pitching. I'm telling u guys ... the Sox have to revolutionize pitching to ever win it again. Sox pitchers have to bring in Buehrle to teach the guys to attack and throw strikes. Our starters have to go 7 1/3 nightly cause the Sox are incapable of building a bullpen that would have say, 4 reliable relievers on a given night. We have the starting pitching now. Let's shut down Kopech the rest of the year and work on his mechanics/mental mechanics and decide which young stud pitchers in the system could switch to relief. Sox have great starting pitching. Now all it'll take is 2 hitters in free agency and 2 relievers in free agency to go with system development.