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QUOTE (LittleHurt05 @ Aug 27, 2013 -> 04:50 PM) Good for Jake that it worked out. With the Sox, it seemed like he would give the "look", go back out on the mound and get hit hard. I think I got in fights on the board saying Peavy "refused to come out." People would get mad but it's tough for a manager to take out a bulldog who has a history of being a stud pitcher, I'd think. If you leave him in a few times and he gets rocked it gives the manager some leverage in future similar situations, but that doesn't help the team much. Overall I like the quality in Peavy/Sale, though. Like one of the posters said, shows they care. QUOTE (BigEdWalsh @ Aug 27, 2013 -> 06:06 PM) For everyone saying how stupid it was that he could have hurt his hand, I'm sure he knows that. His emotions got to him and he lost it. It's obvious he wasn't thinking clearly, but I love the emotion. This is no big deal as long as it doesn't continue to happen which I don't think it will. It's fortunate that he didn't hurt his hand. Time to move on. Well said. We're just worried he was banging that left hand.

QUOTE (Rowand44 @ Aug 27, 2013 -> 05:07 AM) He's more Jake Peavy than Carlos Zambrano. If he does it again, though, he needs to be fined. You can't be banging your left hand like that on the hard surface. Insane.

QUOTE (Reddy @ Aug 26, 2013 -> 11:27 PM) what are the odds that those quotes are accurate? have you read the snopes article debunking them? probably not. and here's the kicker with Ozzie - none of us cared that he was foul-mouthed, just like none of us should care if Hillary is foul mouthed. I disliked Ozzie for his managing, not his personality. greg, how do you feel about Hillary's track record? How do you feel about her tenure as First Lady, then Senator, then Secretary of State? What are your views of her accomplishments? Well, I want to talk to some Washington insider about the quotes. I'm sure somebody out there knows if she is a foul-mouth b**** or not?? I read the snopes thing and it disputes some of the quotes. So who is correct?? I read her Wikipedia and you are right, she did some good things. I am probably being unfair in regard to my stance on Hillary. I need to know whether those quotes are accurate or not. If they are true, she is evil. If they are not true, then the verdict apparently is still out. I am concerned about this wikipedia passage, however. ... On January 23, Clinton finally gave more than five hours of testimony on the Benghazi matter before hearings of the Senate Foreign Relations Committee and the House Foreign Affairs Committee.[253] She said with a choking voice, "For me, this is not just a matter of policy, it's personal. I stood next to President Obama as the Marines carried those flag-draped caskets off the plane at Andrews. I put my arms around the mothers and fathers, sisters and brothers, sons and daughters."[254] She again accepted formal responsibility for the departmental security lapses that led to the attack and deaths, but in explanation did not accept personal blame for them.[255] She said, "I feel responsible for the nearly 70,000 people who work for the State Department. But the specific security requests pertaining to Benghazi, you know, were handled by the security professionals in the department. I didn't see those requests. They didn't come to me. I didn't approve them. I didn't deny them."[255] She did acknowledge that had supported keeping the Benghazi consulate open after an earlier debate about its deteriorating security, but said she had assumed the security personnel involved would address any issues with it.[255]

QUOTE (BigSqwert @ Aug 26, 2013 -> 10:50 PM) Oh my! Why isn't she in the kitchen cooking and cleaning like she's supposed to? I'm not offended by bad language and I have said I thought Ozzie was funny with his use of F bombs. And I am well aware, amazingly, how crude former Presidents have acted in being bullies and using the F bomb. I will say I have known some women to cuss, but I must be really sheltered cause I've never known anybody to cuss like Hillary if those quotes are accurate. If she really said that to Bill when he was around the hot chick, wow. And if she told the Secret Service guy to f*** off just saying 'good morning' I really don't approve of that b****like behavior. Wow. Even if Ozzie did that I'd say he's just flat off wrong. Just because you have power doesn't mean you need to tell a government official who is PROTECTING you to f*** off. I really don't care that much, but a lot of people would say it doesn't reflect well on Hilly. I'm a littls surprised all of you who think Ozzie is such a foul-mouthed evil man would shrug it off, though. I guess we've come so far a lot of people don't see rude behavior as a problem as long as you have money/power. And the fact she cusses like a sailor would not make me not vote for her. I do think she comes across as a huge b---h however. If I'm wrong and she is a whale of a woman, fine, my bad. I'd have a hard time stifling if she said that s*** to me for doing my job. Hell, maybe you get thrown in jail if you say 'f*** you' back to the First Lady when she tells you to f*** off for doing your job. Is that a crime? Maybe is.

QUOTE (Alpha Dog @ Aug 26, 2013 -> 12:06 PM) Eight quotes from eight different books about HIllary….These are her actual words. What a sweet -lady? (1) "Where is the G*damn flag? I want the G*damn f**king flag up every morning at f**king sunrise." From the book "Inside the White House" by Ronald Kessler, p. 244; Hillary to staff at the Arkansas Governor's mansion on Labor Day 1991. (2) "F**k off! It's enough I have to see you s***-kickers every day! I'm not going to talk to you, too!! Just do your G*damn job and keep your mouth shut." From the book " America Evita" by Christopher Anderson, p. 90; Hillary to her State Trooper bodyguards after one of them greeted her with "Good Morning." (3) "If you want to remain on this detail, get your f**king ass over here and grab those bags!" From the book "The First Partner" p. 259; Hillary to a Secret Service Agent who was reluctant to carry her luggage because he wanted to keep his hands free in case of an incident. (4) "Stay the f**k back, stay the f**k back away from me! Don't come within ten yards of me, or else! Just f**king do as I say, Okay!!?" From the book "Unlimited Access" by Clinton 's FBI Agent-in-Charge, Gary Aldrige, p. 139; Hillary is screaming at her Secret Service detail. (5 )"Where's the miserable c**k sucker?" (otherwise known as "Bill Clinton." From the book "The Truth about Hillary" by Edward Klein, p.5; Hillary shouting at a Secret Service officer. (6 )"You f**king idiot" From the book "Crossfire" ~ p. 84; Hillary to a State Trooper who was driving her to an event. (7) "Put this on the ground! I left my sunglasses in the limo. I need those f**king sunglasses! We need to go back! From the book "Dereliction of Duty" p. 71-72; Hillary to Marine One helicopter pilot to turn back while en route to Air Force One. (8) "Come on Bill, put your d**k up! You can't f**k her here!!" From the book "Inside the White House" by Ronald Kessler, p. 243; Hillary to Gov. Bill Clinton when she spots him talking with an attractive female Man. I don't know what to say. Those quotes are wild. QUOTE (pettie4sox @ Aug 26, 2013 -> 07:17 PM) QFT. I think it's hilarious how people argue that one party is better than the other. It's like the special olympics. Republicans and Democrats are all one breed, politicians! Don't forget the media's role in all this. I don't know how a Republican ever wins with the bias. The media are all Democrats. Now before you say, what about Limbaugh and these other TV and radio guys. They HURT the Republicans actually because they are seen as nutjobs. Limbaugh doesn't help any Repub. get elected. No way. People think the guy is a windbag moron. Although I may become a Limbaugh listener if Hillary runs. Certainly he hates Hillary and his attacks will be interesting to listen to.

QUOTE (Reddy @ Aug 26, 2013 -> 04:52 AM) get a lot of good, unbiased sources from that search that allow you to make up your own mind? nah... thought not. that's too much work. Thing is, I don't like her. I love Bill, however.

QUOTE (Reddy @ Aug 26, 2013 -> 03:53 AM) I honestly don't think you know anything about Hillary Clinton. At the very, very least go read wikipedia. This honestly seems like a post out of some twilight zone version of America where Hillary Clinton became Sarah Palin... I'm so completely baffled by this. I did a google search "Hillary Clinton is a b****" and a lot of stuff popped up. I shouldn't ever share an opinion with Glenn Beck but if I have to be totally honest on soxtalk, I'd have to say I kind of agree with this. I guess it makes me a bad person. http://mediamatters.org/research/2007/03/1...eotypica/138303

QUOTE (StrangeSox @ Aug 25, 2013 -> 08:28 PM) just curious greg, what do you imagine Hillary doing that would be so terrible? I picture there being a ton of international crisis in her 8 years and for some reason I envision her mishandling each and every crisis. I could see her offending China and Russia and maybe even causing some severe problems re. security. I just get the feeling after hearing her speak a lot and reading about how people dislike her (I believe she is a b---h; you may all disagree) that she wants to be Prez just to fulfil her great ego. She wants to prove she's as smart as Bill and as popular as Bill. Now I'd be all for Hillary winning and having a hotline to Bill at all times and let him make all the decisions. Or if she ran on a Clinton-Clinton ticket. Make Bill the VEEP. Being Prez is a lot of work. Dealing with the press on a daily basis; dealing with so much stuff on a daily basis. Why the hell would Hillary want to be Prez from the age of 68 to 76 when she could be just enjoying life? My guess is EGO pure and simple. I can't see her handling the job. As far as being sexist, not really. I just truly dislike Hillary. It's the polar opposite of how much I like Bill. Bill Clinton for Prez? Yes. Change the rules. Bring it on again. Hillary? Please. No. To the Hillary lovers out there: Have you ever heard her speak from the heart where you truly felt she wants to serve? Or do you sense a mean woman who feels it's her God-given right to be president, just like ol' Bill?

QUOTE (Chilihead90 @ Aug 26, 2013 -> 01:44 AM) God damnit I hate this f***ing team. They can't do anything right. You can't expect a team with this pitching staff to suck all season long. Finally some things are going right. This is a .500 team that went south fast and furious and Robin and his players were not tough or smart enough to fight through it and remain .500ish. Hope it's a better story next year.

QUOTE (LittleHurt05 @ Aug 26, 2013 -> 01:05 AM) The Cardinals aren't where they are because of Tony LaRussa. They are always good because their front office finds talent out of nowhere low in the draft and develops those guys, while making smart free agent decisions. And when LaRussa was around, his pitching coach was even better than Cooper at turning garbage arms into good pitchers. So I take it you aren't a LaRussa fan for some reason? His resume screams "winner" to me. I say if Robin wants out, beg him to return to the South Side.

QUOTE (Chet Kincaid @ Aug 25, 2013 -> 08:55 PM) Is Keppinger going to be on the team next year? I heard on the score once that he's not good for the clubhouse. He's bad for my blood pressure. I don't like him. He seems to be Teahen-esque. Nice win by the team today, though. The Associated Press wrote the "surging White Sox." Phegley is an easy guy to root for.

QUOTE (elrockinMT @ Aug 25, 2013 -> 08:43 PM) Hate tpo see that. The kid does bring hustle to the ball club for sure That sucks. No way he'll play for a full week with the new rules on concussions. Sucks.

QUOTE (Reddy @ Aug 25, 2013 -> 06:24 PM) i find it funny that Republicans rip on the two people in our political landscape with the best credentials and experience to run this country for being either 1) at b**** or 2) crazy. well... if that's crazy, then I'd hate to hear how you describe your candidates... I'm a Republican but I guess I've changed quite a bit. I did vote for Obama believe it or not this last time. I just couldn't vote in good conscience for the Republican ticket. I also like the idea of Obamacare, though like everything else in America, it's impossible to understand it. I have no fricking idea how it works for me if I get laid off and lose my insurance, no fricking clue. I'm sure I'd have to read 50 pages of legalese to find out. I just truly think Hillary is "bad, bad, bad", to copy a George Bush line. I think my Republican party is pretty much obsolete, except catering to the rich assholes who are ruining American business by laying off so many people chasing every nickle while exploiting their workers. I'd suspect the next Demo candidate will win, I just hope it's not Hillary getting the nomination which she probably will. I think she might ruin our great country single-handedly.

QUOTE (MAX @ Aug 25, 2013 -> 08:59 AM) I never got that impression. I wonder if there are stats to back that up. I wish I have seen more games this year. To me it seems like Gillispie is doing a mediocre job. That's what I'm thinking, Max, mediocre. He is still young and I wouldn't be against him being on the roster next year. I'm not sure he's a big-league regular, though.

QUOTE (fathom @ Aug 25, 2013 -> 06:57 AM) So PK is a good defender in your book and Gillaspie is an average defender? PK seems to have good hands. Gillispie bobbles alot of grounders. He reminds me of an ordinary college infielder who is not reliable. I could be mistaken. I haven't seen the lack of range everybody's talking about with Paulie. Maybe on pop ups to the outfield or in foul ground since he can't run. It seems to me Paulie gloves everything and Gillaspie does not. If I'm mistaken, fine. I haven't seen as many games this year as last.

QUOTE (scs787 @ Aug 25, 2013 -> 06:05 AM) Ah yes, excellent answer to my question...Since you randomly brought up that play, ya know who probably would have been out on that 4-6-3? PK...or AJ for that matter. Why was I shocked Gillaspie went yard? Not a big fan as of the home run at bat. Average defender and .250ish hitter. Hope he improves. The homer was nice.

QUOTE (Jake @ Aug 25, 2013 -> 04:35 AM) Hillary has a very high approval rating (as seen in someone's link posted earlier) and beats all potential Republican challengers in polls right now. She is VERY popular - though that by no means guarantees a win as much can change. There is a huge luck factor in the nominating/electing game. I don't mind Obama, even though he's done nothing of note except orchestrate a horrific economy, but Hillary really truly scares me. I think the USA may be in big trouble if she wins. I mean Obama at least is capable. He's a run of the mill, normal politician. He's not going to do things so stupid they'll crush our country completely. I mean I trust Obama to basically do the right thing, except regarding the economy where IMO he is overmatched. Hillary ... I mean I may be off base here, but doesn't she seem mighty power hungry? At least Bill has a lighter side. Remember it was HIS SPEECH, not Hillary's that was so amazing at the last convention. Hillary just comes across as a mean bitter lady and she's going to be an elderly lady in her 2 terms, most definitely her second term. Can somebody make me feel better that we're going to be OK if she wins? I really, truly sense trouble. I'd rather have Al Gore come back and win than Hillary. I will say this ... I'd rather have Hillary than Sarah Palin. That's all I can say good about Hillary. How educated people could think Sarah Palin was a suitable Veep candidate (one breath from the button) is beyond comprehension.

QUOTE (southsider2k5 @ Aug 25, 2013 -> 04:02 AM) Their SS was getting a 50 game suspension and they were desperate. Yes but that would be like KC trading Wil Myers. Oh wait, they did.

QUOTE (scs787 @ Aug 25, 2013 -> 02:59 AM) Well he's got 12 RBIs, 2 bombs and 11 hits in his last 8 games soooo ya...He might not have turned the corner yet but it's certainly an odd time for that statement. Why were you shocked he went yard? He's got 2 more HRs in 30 less ABs than Paul Konerko. The Royals fans I was with were laughing at my dismay that Konerko wasn't playing. I didn't know he felt dizzy and wasn't able to go. Dunn had a lousy game. But it would have been worse had he not barely beat the 4-6-3 with the 4 starting in right field.

QUOTE (Heads22 @ Aug 24, 2013 -> 05:07 AM) Avisail has been extremely fun to watch. There's no doubt that if he continues to grow, we could have a monster on our hands. How could Detroit trade that guy? They must have given up on him like some of us have wanted to give up on Tank. Garcia just looks like a monster, like you say. He's so fast it's amazing. I mean, he actually may have scored from first base had they sent him on the hit and run single. Kudos to Hahn if he held out for Garcia in that trade. I mean that's one of our rebuilding holes filled apparently. 1/9 of the everyday lineup is fixed. Now we just have to fix 3B, 1B, C, LF (unless this is the real Dayan), CF (DeAza is rapidly falling near .250 again) and DH (unless this is the real Dunn).

Did the Sox hit AJP with a pitch tonight? Was it controversial? Didn't see much of the game til late.

I want LaRussa if Robin decides to retire. Can't the Sox talk LaRussa into coming back? He should be refreshed by now. Just think if he signs for five-years with the plan winning a WS in years three, four and five. He'd be an all-time Chicago icon if he can turn us into the Cardinals.

QUOTE (Jose Paniagua @ Aug 25, 2013 -> 03:46 AM) http://deadspin.com/chris-sale-goes-berser...ting-1194262002 Not to sound like a p****, but man, Sale was hitting that hard with his left hand. Maybe not so wise a move, even if you are pissed. Love his Peavy-like emotion, but that's a pretty valuable left hand he's whacking a hard object with. Oh well, got to love Sale's competitive spirit.

QUOTE (fathom @ Aug 25, 2013 -> 03:33 AM) If they're going to win, that's a pretty sweet way Props this week to some of my least favorite Sox. Gillaspie hits the homer to make me happy in the 12th inning of the Royals game. I was shocked he elevated it out of there. My 3 Royals fans friends were pissed and I was elated. Tonight, Phegs gets the crucial single on a night Rios homered. Nice job, Phegley. I'll admit I've wondered if he has being a starter in him. And Dunn hits the 2-run bomb. Also, Lindstrom did the job at KC and in this game and I've hated on him. Sox starting pitching certainly seems better than a team 25 under .500 or 20 under. Weird season.And before I get ripped, I haven't given up on Phegley. I don't despise him or anything.

QUOTE (scs787 @ Aug 24, 2013 -> 04:31 AM) No, I'm fine with you having an opinion, in fact they are highly entertaining in a frustrating 2013 White Sox kinda way. I just think they are often times outlandish and most of the times the common denominator too your foolishness seems to be your love for the 05 team. Which is great man, I love that team as much as you do but it's just not 2005 anymore. If they wanna continue to suck and rack up another high draft pick, which you are so adamantly against, then sure bring back PK. Chances are you don't compete with him at 1B/DH because once his back, wrist, or whatever flames back up you're not going to get proper production from a position that is supposed to produce. First base isn't SS or CF where you can get by on having a defense first player thrown out there, and at this point PK isn't even that....You bring up the fact that the Sox suck at home a lot and the fact that it puzzles you... PK is batting .202/.284/.294 at home this year...there's your reason why we're losing at home. Yeah, I won't sob if he doesn't come back. He's been a lousy hitter the last year and a half. But if he's truly finished, then no team will want to pick him up (except maybe the Sox for sentimental reasons, giving him one last chance to get it back). My guess is somebody decides he still has some pop in his bat and will give him a one-year deal. Maybe not. His power numbers are so far down his career may not continue a year or two more as Thome's did. QUOTE (LittleHurt05 @ Aug 24, 2013 -> 04:37 AM) If AJP was so important in the clubhouse why did the 2012 Sox collapse? Why did the 2009-2010 Sox get embarrassed by the Twins. Why did the 2008 Sox get swept with the season on the line? Why didn't AJ nip that bad play? You could be right. It might not have made a difference. He's portrayed as a guy who cares deeply about winning, thus I figured he might have been a reason for the team not to tank so early in the season.