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Lexi has so much talent. Hopefully this was just an off season. I'd be OK with keeping him in the infield while letting go Gillaspie, Becks and Paulie and of course making Phegs the backup to McCann or AJP or somebody.

If he's still under Sox control they'll trade him in a minor transaction before just releasing him, right? At this point, it will be a very very minor trade as Beckham is yet another failed hitting prospect.

Cmon Soxtalk, I'm doing a survey. Do you use Twitter and Facebook and please give me a few comments on what you think of each. Greg says re. Twitter: Hilarious to read all the second-guessing of coaches and quarterbacks on Twitter over the weekend. If you like negativity in your life, you embrace Twitter. My gosh. Greg says re Facebook: I have some family members scared to death of putting their "personal information" and pictures on there. They say they don't want people in their past knowing what they are doing. I say I LOVE letting people in my past know what I'm doing. Do you folks use Twitter and Facebook? Do you like them? I wish both would go away, but use both.

QUOTE (Marty34 @ Sep 16, 2013 -> 01:37 AM) I know, pretty lame after sweeping 3 four-game series from the Sox. That's almost impossible to do. I am pretty sure a AAA team could win one or two out of 12. It's impossible to go 0-12 against a team. Isn't it?

QUOTE (fathom @ Sep 16, 2013 -> 02:25 AM) Beckham now batting .202 since the ASB. It pains me to say this, but there's really no reason to bring him back next season. Arguably he's as bad a player as Chris Getz. Flame me all you want, but I'm pretty serious. Gordon Beckham is officially a bust. Unless his highlight film defensive plays take him out of the bust category.

QUOTE (caulfield12 @ Sep 16, 2013 -> 03:35 AM) It's ugly how many players we probably could make arguments not to come back or be the starter... 1) DeAza 2) Viciedo 3) Beckham 4) Ramirez 5) Flowers/Phegley or Phegley/Flowers (based on your perspective) 6) Gillaspie (unless platooning) and Keppinger That pretty much leaves Avisail Garcia, Dunn, Leury Garcia (utility) and Semien as the only "interesting" position players from any standpoint, although I'm still cautiously optimistic about Viciedo. With DeAza, he's getting more expensive and the defensive shortcomings and wear and tear sort of are weighing him down in my mind...he's gone from more of a leadoff guy to a bottom of the order hitter, IMO. Or the perfect 4th outfielder on a playoff caliber team. Maybe he's a starter for the Pirates or Reds, a couple of NL teams. Good post. I would agree with you. Most of our everyday players and subs aside from the new young guys we've added have presented the case that they are finished as White Sox. Given a choice, I'd rebuild the infield first before the outfield (I'm assuming they can't totally overhaul the roster). But for next year, new 3B, Lexi or new ss, definitely a new 2B and new 1B. So that could be four new infielders or three new ones minimum. Plus a new starting catcher. That's quite a bit of work for Hahn. Obviously Simien is the new 2B. I'd recommend dumping Viciedo No. 1 and DeAza No. 2 but if the Sox have to wait another offseason to rebuild the outfield, so be it. For now, new 3B, 2B, 1B and catcher, please!!!! Although I won't cuss if Paulie returns.

OMG we got swept again? Semien is hitting .346 though. If he keeps this up another 2 weeks, he's the ONE bright spot this season. Plus A. Garcia and a lot of pitchers.

QUOTE (Balta1701 @ Sep 15, 2013 -> 07:29 PM) That's not that harsh. If you wanted to really go after Leury you could compare him to your post. I can be pretty slow, I guess. I don't understand your post. I thought garbage was a pretty bad way to describe a player. I wouldn't call Dunn garbage. I wouldn't go that far. It seems a little too rude.

QUOTE (elrockinMT @ Sep 15, 2013 -> 05:20 PM) It wasn't too long ago we had folks complaining about Ozzie. Yeah, but it wasn't me. I loved Ozzie. So I'm making up for lost time. Robin may be a good manager. If he is, his players have really let him down with all the mental mistakes and physical mistakes. That dropped fly by Viciedo the other day really made me give up.

QUOTE (ron883 @ Sep 15, 2013 -> 06:29 PM) anybody putting dunn in the 2014 lineup must be under the assumption that he has a bodyguard. if not, his life is in serious danger. greg just might order a hit on him or take him out himself. Ugh. I already said I liked Dunn the person. Dunn the player is who angers me. I personally don't like jokes like this.

QUOTE (ron883 @ Sep 15, 2013 -> 07:20 PM) leury = piece of garbage That's not called for. The guy is a likeable fast little player. I'm negative myself, but geez.

QUOTE (Quinarvy @ Sep 15, 2013 -> 07:30 AM) But the Royals are the best one, so it doesn't matter right? I'm sick of getting owned by teams in this division. Sox lineup has to be totally rebuilt. I can't imagine Hahn wanting to keep any of these guys except A. Garcia and maybe Lexi. Maybe keep Jordan Danks as a backup and of course Phegs and Semien.

QUOTE (LittleHurt05 @ Sep 15, 2013 -> 02:29 AM) Why would anybody boo today? The season was over 3 months ago, who cares? Cause they might have paid 80 bucks for a gawddarn ticket and tons more for beer? Booooooooo. QUOTE (fathom @ Sep 15, 2013 -> 02:55 AM) It's a joke that Ventura is being brought back next season. Amen, brother. He has done one of the worst jobs in baseball history this season. Teams in our division are NOT that good. They are AVERAGE. And we lose to all of them daily except one, the Royals. QUOTE (Soxfest @ Sep 15, 2013 -> 02:57 AM) If he has any self respect he will walk away. Please quit, Robin. You are not cut out for this job. Loved you as a player, but just quit. QUOTE (Soxfest @ Sep 15, 2013 -> 03:53 AM) That's fine but Sox better not expect fans to care and come to games either. It is a two way street. Best post of the month!

QUOTE (Soxfest @ Sep 15, 2013 -> 03:20 AM) Someone should be canned just on that BS alone! Don't we have equally horrendous figures against everybody else in our division 'cept the Royals?

Sox are losing 8-1? Hope the fans are booing them out of the stadium tonight. Wonder if Robin will pat the boys on the back and give them participation trophies after the game/season. He's done such a good job with this team.

QUOTE (lasttriptotulsa @ Sep 14, 2013 -> 09:56 PM) Only in Greg's world is Dunn's .754 OPS so bad that he should retire, but Konerko's .685 is so good he is deserving of a 3 year contract. At this point you have to be trolling right? The wall I punched a hole in regarding Dunn's at bat the other day in which he fouled off a meatball on the first pitch on the outside part of the plate, one he should have drilled to left to score the runner from second, proves I'm not trolling. Also, once again, incorrect. I never said Paulie should get a 3 year deal. WTF? I said I want him back. He's at the stage he gets no more than the one year Thome type deals when Thome was at the end. I also have said I can understand if the Sox don't want him back. But I think Mr. White Sox deserves a fair sendoff. Plus he might bounce back. The man has been excellent until this season. Why do some Sox fans discount the possibility of a Paulie comeback? You could reduce his bats and he'll still connect vs. lefties I'd bet you. QUOTE (scs787 @ Sep 14, 2013 -> 10:21 PM) Greg, since you like google things like "Hilary Clinton is a b****" and they sway your opinion, how about you google "Strikeouts are overrated".....There's A TON of articles so it must be true right? (Thats right, I peep the filibuster from time to time) My gosh you guys are so inaccurate. I googled Hillary Clinton is a b**** to try to find things that might support my supposition that she treats "commoners" poorly. I posted stats how badly Dunn has been in April and May and how he has 10 homers the last 2 1/2 months. But to each his own. If you like Dunn the hitter, fine. I only like Dunn the person; I despise Dunn the hitter.I stand by my statement that I am like the Pied Piper to newbies on here. They seem to have greg's positions on everything memorized. I can't utter anybody's positions on anything except Caufield used to like to talk about attendance (he hasn't since he returned from traveling the globe for a month) and fathom likes to point out technical things in people's swings and pitching deliveries.

QUOTE (scs787 @ Sep 14, 2013 -> 09:50 PM) He's been bad the last few weeks, this is true, do I expect him to produce that little next year? not at all. I'm not gonna "pray" he's off the team because he's had a bad few weeks to end the season. Do I think he'll be the hitter he was from June-August? No probably not. Do I think he's still a valuable player even if he hits .210 with 30+ HRs 90+ HRs and Ks 200+ times? Absolutely. If Dunn didn't K so much he'd be a superstar, instead he's merely a good productive player. He leads the team in HRs, RBIs, OPS, and he's 2nd in runs. Oh well. You must not have read my stats I posted. I can't blame you for not listening; I often times don't listen in regards to my favorite players, but seriously, what do you see in Dunn that I don't? He angers me beyond belief if "angers" is the right word.

QUOTE (flavum @ Sep 14, 2013 -> 08:09 PM) Rienzo vs Jimenez Dunn sits. Gillaspie DH. Semien 3B. A's beat the Rangers again. Yankees lost. Rick Hahn taking calls on WSW at 5pm. Somebody please call and ask Hahn about Adam Dunn in a respectful manner. "Q - Rick, Adam Dunn received a lot of positive publicity for his new approach in going the other way with pitches. I may be mistaken, but it appears as of late that's not the case and he's also hit just one home run all month and four the previous month. Has the approach of pulling everything returned and are you concerned about this? Also a general comment on Dunn's future with the Sox and I'll hang up and listen off the air."

QUOTE (scs787 @ Sep 14, 2013 -> 07:31 PM) He had an OPS of .881 and .976 last April and May. I'm not totally against a platoon but I think you play him everyday and get what you get out of him. He's had the most HRs and RBIs vs LHP on our team the last 2 years. As long as he's producing I can care less what he bats and how many Ks he gets. You said "as long as he's producing." My post was meant to point out how little he's producing. QUOTE (ron883 @ Sep 14, 2013 -> 07:45 PM) wait- you want to platoon a guy who will be making 15 million a year, but you defended ozzie to death when he played highly paid guys JUST because they were highly paid, even when they were playing like crap? agenda! hypocrite! Yes, that's how sick I am of Adam Dunn. I want a platoon. As far as Ozzie, I'm glad you remember my posts, it makes me feel good that I'm verbose enough that people remember my position on matters, but you actually got it wrong. I actually said that is why Ozzie was trotting Dunn out there every day, because he had no choice in the matter. Because the Sox had acquired him and you couldn't just sit a guy making that kind of money. It would be a direct slap to the GM who had made the huge offseason move. Now a few years and zillions of strikeouts later, could you sit a guy and his 15 million? Probably not. But I can pray. Your reaction that I have an agenda and am hypocrite in this matter is wrong, though. Yes, you have to play the high paid acquisitions, but that was right after KW got Dunn. It's still true to a certain extent but yes I hope they platoon Dunn or at least cut his at bats in half. Bless those people who have gone to a ton of games the past few years despite the presence of all those Ks.

Adam Dunn has one home run this month after hitting four in August and five in July. That's still pretty pedestrian slugger numbers for a LONG stretch of games. He's 4 for 38 this month with 21 Ks. He hit .148 and .165 in April and May respectively. So basically 2 1/2 months of the year he's been totally and utterly pathetic. He's hitting .197 vs. lefties this season with six homers in 117 at bats with .294 OBP. If we're going to keep him I would get somebody he can platoon with at DH. Play him only vs. righties where he still strikes out at an alarming rate and I would truly spot his playing time in April and May. Who cares if we anger him. He'll be finally gone after next year anyway. Platoon him. In August he did hit .267 with 13 RBIs. At one point he was 8 for 15 against Detroit and Minnie in games where he was supposedly hitting to all fields more. The bulk of that damage was in 3 games vs. Minnie.

QUOTE (bbilek1 @ Sep 14, 2013 -> 05:50 PM) I think we should move Beckham at this point. At this point, I don't believe there is anything Semien can't do there except maybe the defense and that's considering the learning curve Semien would have. We need to get younger so Semien at 2B and picking up a young position player for CF/LF/3B could really help along with Avisail Garcia in RF. I'd be more than willing to substitute Semien for Beckham at second. I doubt the Sox are ready to give up on Beckham yet, though. He's had a long leash on his mediocre hitting career.

QUOTE (LittleHurt05 @ Sep 14, 2013 -> 03:52 AM) In 2005, the lineup from 3 to 9 swung from their heels too. There's nothing wrong with that, as long as the players hit. I dont think Paulie has ever swung from his heels. It's a super easy home run stroke. Ditto AJP and Dye.These current Sox swing hard.

QUOTE (SoxPride18 @ Sep 14, 2013 -> 02:15 AM) How's everyone feel about Saltalamacchia as a potential signing next year? How bout sending a Class AA pitcher to the Royals for their backup catcher, Kottaris, if we aren't going to sign AJ. He could platoon with Phegs. Kottaris will take a walk.

QUOTE (LittleHurt05 @ Sep 14, 2013 -> 03:10 AM) Only five players in all of MLB have more homers than Dunn this year, but let's call out his last three weeks. Pedro Alvarez is basically putting up the exact same numbers for Pittsburgh, they seem to be doing OK I respect your support of Dunn. We all have our favorite players. ... I've just seen way too much of him. If he's still on the team I can't see renewing my mlb.com. I just know what kind of offensive team we are going to have if he's still around. We already have too many guys who swing from their heels. Maybe if we get a real hitting coach and real manager (no offense, Robin, I loved you as a player) I'll give Dunn another chance, but ugh. Haven't most of you seen enough of Big Adam to last 3 lifetimes?

QUOTE (LittleHurt05 @ Sep 14, 2013 -> 02:01 AM) He's one of the most prolific home run hitters of this era and can hit a 450 foot home run at any moment. That's fun to watch, what else is there to see with this awful team? To tell you the truth, I'd rather see any young guy (even if he's not ready) from our AA team take Dunn's at bats. I've just seen enough of Adam Dunn. I'm too lazy to look it up. How many home runs does he have the last 3 weeks? I could be mistaken I'm guessing 2-3 homers the past 3 weeks? I'm surprised nobody else is as upset as I am about that b.s. about his going the other way. I'd like to see a story now about how he hasn't gone the other way. Why has his philosophy changed since the last article? Uh, cause his philosophy never changed.