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Sabermetrics is fine but that’s an organizational priority, what does it have to do specifically with the manager besides listening to advice on when to pitch hit, batting order etc. the minor league development people need to know this stuff more. This is a Hahn issue which is confusing because he’s an Ivy League mba, those dummies love this stuff. leads me to think it’s over his head. The big league team manager needs to be a leader and get the most out of his players. And needs to be bilingual. Some sabermetrics nerd who learned a few things on excel isn’t that guy. Anyone on this board could do that job, minor statistical analysis that people probably learned their first semester of college. Pedro is none of these things besides ostensibly bilingual, but boy was it foolish to think a Cuban-American would fit into the Cuban thing the Sox having going on and be able to inspire moncada, Robert etc to play hard. They’re gonna blow that connection which is about the only thing this team has going for it over other franchises.

I care about his baseball production and also you can still be a good person and do a bad thing, ie spousal infidelity. The Clev accusations are way different, that’s describing a violent crime. Cheating is not a crime even if I think it’s immoral. Regular people do it all the time, but my exact point is why are you looking at a baseball shortstop for moral guidance? I say once more, his wife obviously forgives him and wants to remain married to him. Why is your opinion on this matter stronger than hers? Oh yeah it’s cuz it’s Tim Anderson, resident whipping boy, his sin being…anyone can read between the lines about why everything applies extra to Tim.

I like how you have a stronger opinion on his supposedly bad ethics than his wife does. Ya know, the woman who is being victimized here. It isn’t you. Stop acting like such a p**** about pro athletes, some of you guys think these millionaires who play with a ball are supposed to be these paragons of virtue. All this stuff applies extra to Tim Anderson apparently, couldn’t imagine why….

Doesn’t look like there’s a “rule” against it but it does make you a dick to be like “the white sox are bad at baseball, I hope these guys’ personal lives crumble.” it’s like, get a life.

I’m thrilled with the selection and can’t believe he fell this far! I doubt he sticks at SS but Montgomery/Gonzalez looks like a decent infield for the future.

i've finally made peace with the fact that this team isn't going to rattle off a 15 game win streak this season. the problem with blowing it up is that rick hahn still has a job.

giving multiple years to and spending actual money on relievers is such a terrible idea. you can get 90% of the production of joe kelly (or 200%) or graveman out of a 29-year-old perpetual AAAer and then spend that money on difference makers with predictable (or at least low variance) performance

gorman is a permanent DH. he's flubbed every play he's been involved in this series

The Cardinals are perhaps the only team that is more WTFworthy than the Sox are.

wow

why send the catcher from first to home lol

his numbers on the year are surprisingly good over 27 innings for a 29-year-old rookie. i don't really expect it to last but he's far from dreadful

I love that they're running out ground balls and making it close. there can be a millisecond difference between a good outcome and a bad outcome in baseball, minimize the probability of those bad outcomes by doing easy things like sprinting to first base

most players are probably less knowledgeable than a lot of fans about 'macro' sort of baseball things.

supposedly it'll storm for several hours. double header would be great, I could possibly go. I want that Italian heritage night hat...

why doesn't luis robert bat second?

Three perfect games that year...like what?

he did it!!

waiting for the walk on pitch clock violation

shohei shade: "be louder next time, fans, i was awesome"

Moncada doesn't beat that single out, does he? Just checked into this game after 'not' evacuating from a wildlfire in Scottsdale, AZ. I thought there was another poster around here. This game has lasted forever, glad I didn't get burned up and can see the end.

it's a good point because what made me think of this Mookie/Trout interview (see below) I watched last night. Definite humility on Trout's end but he thinks he's the best player on the field...which he is...but needed some coercion from Mookie to admit it. Personally I like Tim's attitude and ego, I think it's entertaining and honest, but it makes a lot less sense when he's playing like trash. For some reason, I'm reminded of this Orsen Welles quote describing Woody Allen: I think it's just truthful how he feels and the "aw shucks" guys are equally arrogant but play the media game in a way that baseball fans like. millions of people have decided to hang on these athletes' every word because they play with a ball on TV and make millions of dollars. I think I'd probably have a gigantic ego too but I'd keep it to myself...

but every baseball player thinks he's the best player in baseball. the mindset of competitive athletes is not exactly a rational one. I dunno why everyone cares about what this guy says so much, he sucks at baseball now and that's a more interesting topic of conversation as to why that might be.. I think it's weird that he's still talking about Donaldson though, and this puff piece is lazy journalism, reporters nowadays literally don't know how to write about anything besides race (they're usually white journalists). Probably because it's easy to do and doesn't require much in the way of research or investigation besides checking twitter, and will always have an audience (outrage and disagreement drives revenue all the same). and if you critique it, you must be a neo-nazi. the bit about TLR is interesting. Giolito apparently really liked him too. I guess Yermin Mercedes was the most influential voice on the team.

I read a rumor about Andrew McCutchen, that the Rangers are potentially interested in a trade for him if the deal includes a pitcher. Need pitching, why not Giolito and Graveman? https://theathletic.com/4629909/2023/06/26/rangers-prospects-trade-value/ This propaganda piece hyping up the Rangers farm was released today too (the guy works for the organization). Good thread, OP.

It seems like there's no consistent idea but I'd be wary about thinking the Giants or Reds are some organization to model. Reds are hot now and Elly might end up being the best infielder in the game, but it's basically just luck and paying a bunch of 16-year-old Dominicans $10,000 and hopefully one of them turns out. Same thing with the Rangers, I'm getting 2021 Sox vibes from them. We'll see. I still can't get over that quote from Robert along the lines of "I don't know what pitches the pitcher throws, just how hard he throws" and it really shows that everyone on the team is completely lost at the plate unless they're facing a pitcher they've gone up against 1000 times. There are good hitters on this team but are immediately at a disadvantage due to, what I assume, is a 'philosophy' that doesn't prioritize scouting MLB teams and relaying that information to the players. I think the offense improves dramatically if these guys could learn to take a pitch or have some trivial understanding of 'this guy is probably going to throw a slider out of the zone. don't swing at it'.