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JR said that one advantage to promoting Getz was that he knew the team already, and even though this was mostly a BS reason given for promoting him, there is still some truth to it. So yes, Getz had an advantage over someone being hired from the outside. Getz has been with the Sox since 2017 as the director of player development, so logically he would have had an advantage over an external GM hire who never had an inside assessment or view of the organization. But while your hypotheticals are a fun rabbit hole [excuse] to go down, Dombrowski unfortunately isn’t the Sox GM and we have no clue if he would have acquired a scrub like Fletcher. But we all do know for a fact that Getz DID indeed acquire Fletcher, and even chose him over a better player in Jake McCarthy, because his assistant GM Barfield is apparently as bad as he is at evaluating players. And I expected Fletcher and Vargas to both be .900 OPS star players? These two scrubs can’t even manage to be league average players, much less reach a .650 OPS, but nice hyperbole…

You could’ve posted the best picture of “Stone Pony”… his Playgirl pictorial. ❤️

Do you remember what those Astros teams’ opening day payrolls were in 2012 and 2013? The 2012 Astros had around a $60 million dollar opening day payroll. The Sox were at around $181 million last year and $123 million this year to start the seasons. Hell, Getz basically spent as much in his first offseason as what the 2013 Astros opening day payroll was — around $26 million. Your comparison isn’t really a close one. You can argue inflation to some extent but it won’t account for that kind of difference in money and payrolls from 11 years ago. Unless you were actually trying to prove that Getz did even worse than Luhnow, actually epically record-setting bad, with far more money spent on his roster. The fact is that Getz did far worse than Luhnow in the first year of his rebuild while spending far more money. But I guess he did acquire franchise “cornerstones” in Fletcher and Vargas, so we should give him some credit!

I assume Peavy was referring to his own experiences while a player for the Sox? If that’s true, the Sox have been doing this since at least the 2013 season (Peavy’s last season with the Sox).

It didn’t age well but it’s still true. That was his first home run of the season through 174 plate appearances. It was also only the third home run of his career in 276 total plate appearances. He definitely is not a home run hitter, but hopefully he has more power than Nicky Lopez…

Wow, a terrible player with zero power repeats his recent terrible season with no homeruns and you acquire him, overpay him, and all but announce he’s your starting 2B after you acquire him? That’s some quality GM’ing! Even better that you already saw a similar player in Madrigal with higher draft stock and quickly dumped his ass.

Too bad the deadline is over. Maybe they would want Vaughn? 😶

Uhhh, yeah, just be careful when googling that name. But it might already be blocked in Commie China.

Yep, we just got rid of one worthless player (when he isn’t hitting and due to his terrible glove) for another. Sad.

Except Nicky Lopez has proven himself to be a garbage hitter over multiple seasons, not just a month. But your small sample size argument does make some sense and can be supported. However, when in your opinion will Vargas and Fletcher have enough plate appearances to be proven mediocrity? Vargas has just about a full season with 530 career PA, while Fletcher has about half that at only career 276. I would suggest not even looking at Vargas’s career line as it is that ugly. Meanwhile, Fletcher has basically hit like an “on-fire” Nicky Lopez for his career.

Maybe if it only happened a few times. But how many times have we seen the Sox do this? They have been doing this for the past few seasons. There’s a reason posters openly call it out and joke about it. Because they remember the last several times the Sox have done the very same thing.

No, exorcised was correct. Getz and his minions are evil demons sent from hell to destroy Sox fans enjoyment of baseball.

Maybe Getz can do another assessment of the team after his own year one like Jerry said he was able to do last year? My guess is that he wouldn’t share the results with Jerry because all of the fingers would point back at him.

He has the Kenny/Hahn stink on him. He truly deserves nothing, and damn sure didn’t deserve his promotion. He should’ve been canned from his previous role for being a weak director of player development since he ultimately had poor results. His offseason was awful, his in-season transactions were reactionary and questionable, and his trade deadline was a huge failure. As I’ve said before, I’ll take a drunk monkey throwing darts at pictures of free agents/trade targets over trusting Getz and his staff (Barfield, Tosar (oh, already canned, go figure…)). They have all burned us out of two starting caliber position players already with their terrible player assessments.

If he was an outside hire, I would’ve given him more rope. But he’s a Kenny/Hahn lackey and learned from the absolute worst of the worst — two other terrible front office people that simply kissed Jerry’s ass to keep their paychecks rolling in for years. Getz also didn’t develop anything in his previous role other than a pile of dung and he put together what was thought impossible this past offseason, a record setting turd. He’s a terrible GM and needs to be gone as well and no, no one should stop screaming this from the highest towers and cliffs.

Ahhh, saw he wasn’t on the Orioles roster and just assumed he got injured.

Yep. Getz did worse in a single offseason and regular season than any of these guys that are getting fired now.

Flushing the previous regime should be even before that but we know it isn’t going to happen.

It looks like the Marlins did better with their Trevor Rogers trade in getting Norby back. I realize Rogers had two years left instead of one but he was a pretty mediocre starter and the Sox also included Kopech with Fedde.

I think that grace period excuse is evaporating as this gets uglier and uglier and the results of his acquisitions are mostly failures.

You missed the last sentence… “And our miser owner refuses to pay the high price of anything.”

He also bumped into Robert earlier in the game.

I think they have the worst single season record in the bag. But it’s looking like they might also earn the worst single season run differential since 1900 as well. Sox are at -310 right now.

It won’t. It would be tough to argue that the Sox don’t currently have the worst owner and the worst GM in all of baseball.

Beat me to it. He could get similar or more money from a team and owner that isn’t a complete and utter clown show operation.