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To be fair, people clown on Schriffen whether the Sox are winning or losing.

C’mon, Tray. It has nothing to do with Schriffen being black. He is also half white, by the way. It has to do with his 3-0 green light comment every game. At this point, I think he keeps saying it to troll Sox fans.

Political talk. Reported.

Out of challenges in the 3rd inning.

He drinks 12 Rolling Rocks and pivots to eating beaver.

Jeebus. Just turned on the game and see s%*# shitshow…

Wouldn’t that nickname make more sense for Bonemer?

@caulfield12’s autocorrect is fucking twisted. 😳

Josh Nelson must be da man. Howard Ankin is one of his sponsors. “Injury law made personal.”

I agree with your first couple sentences. However, Hill is playing like a starting CF right now. Doyle hasn’t been that guy since 2024. Will Hill keep up his current pace? No, of course not. Also, there is obviously a difference in the quality of prospects that were involved in the trades you mentioned. So it’s not really weird when people say that.

Next question is what made him blow up offensively for the Pirates in 2024 and then come back down to earth?

My opinion is that @Dick Allen is right. I doubt most people were treating Mason Adams and Boston Smith as untouchable prospects. They thought that some of Castillo’s contract money should have been sent over by the Mariners for next season due to the inclusion of Smith. Instead, Getz paid for Dominguez’s $2 million buyout for next year. Also, trading Mason Adams wasn’t the problem. It’s who they traded him for. Trading him for an outfielder that is arguably worse than the outfielders you already have is questionable.

This. 100%.

I guess I should have said pitching staff in general, considering Thorpe and Smith aren’t ready yet and someone will need to reduce Schultz’s innings. Not sure what the Sox plan is.

That was the rumor. Not sure if the amount of cash considerations the Sox sent the Mariners was released. But it looks like it would be $10 million in salary for Seranthony next season.

I think Braden was always targeted for RF. Pereira was a flier acquisition but I don’t think he could handle CF either, and I don’t necessarily think the Sox considered him as an option there. However, Getz had to throw resources at a CF and DFA Pereira because his previous attempts at acquiring a CF have failed (see Zavala and Acuna). You don’t think Adams could have potentially helped the Sox bullpen right now?

That’s just crazy and I don’t blame Getz for getting rid of him. Hill had a -0.1 bWAR with the Sox. However, I can blame Getz for paying a premium to acquire essentially the same player. That’s the rough part IMO.

This is getting a bit ridiculous. Ray Ray is not being a bully. Any baseball fan that wasn’t biased by being either a Rockies fan or a White Sox fan could look at Doyle’s stats, defensive performance (via stats and videos), and age, and wonder why any team would pay a premium to acquire him as anything other than a backup CF / fourth outfielder. Some posters are coming up with every reason in the book to prove there is a light at the end of the tunnel with Doyle, more than likely because they are biased as White Sox fans. Perhaps Doyle can break out with the Sox but the odds aren’t exactly with him based on his most recent performance.

Another reason I’m not a fan of the trade. Doyle is already 28, the same age as Nolan Jones. If he was a bit younger, fine, perhaps he’s worth the shot. Not a fan of acquiring guys that should be in their prime and are coming off their worst years ever. Sadly, Jones’ one good year with the Rockies was much better offensively than Doyle’s.

That makes sense. They just traded Adell, not like he was any sort of stud, but their outfield is really ugly now. Pereira could start for them today.

Why do you think would Pereira clear waivers? There has to be one bad team out there that has room for a 25 year old outfielder with power. I think Getz was trying to move Hays/Pereira and simply ran out of time or no one was that interested in trading for them.

Yep, you nailed it. Might be the worst system in baseball.

Not really. The Padres have just about the last ranked farm system in all of baseball so you have to factor that in. Neither prospect is a top 100 prospect in the MLB. So the #4 prospect in a very weak system doesn’t mean all that much and the #9 is almost nothing. https://www.cbssports.com/mlb/news/robbie-ray-trade-grades-padres-giants/ “MLB Pipeline ranked Mendez and Hernandez as the No. 4 and No. 9 prospects in San Diego's system, respectively. That said, the Padres have a very thin farm system. Their No. 4 prospect would be the No. 10 or 11 prospect in many other organizations.“

The most annoying part of this trade deadline is that this is probably half of our next offseason already. A starter, a reliever, a center fielder, and a backup catcher. I’m not seeing much spending happening next offseason, with or without a lockout.

I would have passed on Doyle but I wouldn’t have balked at Adams and Wolkow for a rental starter. Hopefully we won’t need one and Thorpe/Smith can fill the role. I don’t think Getz ever considered a rental player, which seems fairly obvious with all four players that were acquired being under control for future year(s).